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BigMeatballDave 02-28-2009 12:10 PM
Shit.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-28-2009 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 5537465)
You need a "franchise quarterback" available in the draft. This year doesn't offer one.
Please tell me why Matt Stafford doesn't have more potential than <del>Scott Mitchell</del> Matt Cassel

Cosmos 02-28-2009 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5537439)
Who the hell are we going to draft at 3?

BJ Raji, Aaron Curry, Eugene Monroe?

Yay. We give up the #3 overall for a cover backer, a DT who is too goddamned stupid to stay academically eligible, or a left tackle when we already have one.
Trade down is always a possibility.

I think you need to sit back and see what this team looks like after FA and the draft.

Pioli is just getting warmed up.

I don't get how anyone is so convinced that the QB that Detroit doesn't pick would be that much better that Cassel...

SAUTO 02-28-2009 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 5537461)
You had to know that this was coming in the opening press conference for Scott Piolo when he said and I paraphrase: There is only one Tom Brady and there is only one Matt Cassel
what was telling IMO was when he smiled and said he had a qb in mind

Basileus777 02-28-2009 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5537478)
Please tell me why Matt Stafford doesn't have more potential than <del>Scott Mitchell</del> Matt Cassel
Stafford isn't going to be an option. As ****ed up as Detroit is, I doubt they will pass on him.

ChiefGator 02-28-2009 12:11 PM
If the compensation was a 2nd and possible late round pick next year, I think it is fair value. I would have jumped at giving them a third for him, but the #3 overall was too much. Probably just about right.

Unfortunately, he may get roasted on the fire here, since he is rather unexperienced, but he must have showed more promise to Pioli/Haley than any of Sanchez, Stafford, or Thigpen.

Could work out well for us, I'm willing to wait and see.

Kylo Ren 02-28-2009 12:11 PM
The Patzification of the Chiefs continues!

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-28-2009 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5537472)
If Raji is rated a top 5 calibre pick, that's a really easy choice. He's the only chance you have at a nose tackle--the most important position in a 3-4.

And again, let me reiterate that DT is the position that historically scores the lowest on the Wonderlic and that Raji struggled with academic ineligibility because he went to a tier 1, challenging school and because he had an academic advisor who didn't do his job.
Yeah, Raji is the pick if you don't question the fact that he had one year of production (which people love to hold against Sanchez) and that he's a drooling ****ing reerun.

nychief 02-28-2009 12:12 PM
WAIT EVERYBODY!



Has anybody asked Brian Waters to sign off on this deal? What if he doesn't like this move?

Tiger's Fan 02-28-2009 12:12 PM
If this is for the 2nd, I like it. Thigpen is a joke, I don't want dirty Sanchez, and Stafford will be gone by #3.

milkman 02-28-2009 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 5537453)
All whining aside, any of those three would be a good addition.

IMO Monroe is the best pick of the three; moving Albert to RT.
Yeak, let's draft a LT first this year, and another with our first next year, and another with our first the year after, and again the the following year.

We'll have the bestest O-Line Ever.


JFC
:grr:

HughC 02-28-2009 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bishop_74 (Post 5537401)
I just feel better about this than gambling on a draft pick...
My exact thoughts. I'd rather take a guy who has proven he has adjusted to the speed of the NFL game than take a chance on a rookie QB, which history has shown to be about a 50-50 chance of being a bust. Best part is the team still has the #3 pick.

Just Passin' By 02-28-2009 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5537482)
what was telling IMO was when he smiled and said he had a qb in mind
But Hamas knows so much better. That's why he's been an NFL GM since he popped out of the womb.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-28-2009 12:12 PM
Well, we just got back to 8-8 next year, so everyone should be happy.

ntexaschiefsfan 02-28-2009 12:12 PM
Maybe Orakpo at 3? He has the ahtleticism to play in the 3-4 and could be a Shawn Merrian type.


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