I'm not worried about Shields, either.

Waters OTOH...

4 wins against the caliber of talent in the AFC West right now? Cleveland, Cincy and Jax on the schedule? Sounds like someone is hoping the choice of new coach is shown to be a bad decision. If Herm was still here, how many wins would you say?

I don't care how much the players dislike him as long as he can win. He isn't there to be their buddy, he's there to turn them into winners.


How many posters are there that served in some level of the military that didn't want to see their drill instructor get ran over by a transport truck or something similar at some point during boot camp? And how many of you guys had respect for that same drill instructor once basic training was over?

The players may hate Haley now, but if he can turn them into winners, they'll respect him later.

So basically what I've learned is some people are not going to be very happy with a coach that isn't warm and fuzzy.

I wouldn't be surprised if they doubled that figure or even went beyond.

ROFL

Herm? Maybe one, probably two.

And you're nuts if you think that the Chiefs are coming out of Cincinnati and Jacksonville with wins.

The Chiefs lost their last game of the season to the Bengals with ****ing Ryan Fitzpatrick at the helm. Carson Palmer would have carved them up for 40 points or more. And Jacksonville, with their running game and defense?

Apparently, you haven't looked at the Chiefs roster as of late.

Oh please

ROFL

I like the way Pioli referred to players under contract at the presser. I think he might have been tweaking Waters integrity since he negotiated his own contract.

How many playoff wins have the last 2 "warm and fuzzy" coaches gotten us?

I'm willing to take a chance on an in your face coach after what the warm and fuzzys have gotten us.

Hey you don't have to tell me that but the fact generally remains..

Many in this market have an infatuation with the nice guys, from coaches to players and so forth. It's a very sentimental market aswell...not to mention how guys who aren't even good get turned into cult heroes it's very weird.

Carl was the worst about that shit. Pioli doesn't seem to be as market sentiment fixated at this point. He basically let it be known that we're entertaining all offers for anybody. I like that.

Agreed.

Listen, I pay my money, I tailgate with friends and family, I drink in the majesty of a packed Arrowhead Stadium on a crisp October day. I expect and demand that a quality Football team wearing red trots out onto the field. I don't give a shite about Tony's records, his Pro Bowls, Waters whining, Haley's lack of concern for the media or Pioli's team first fans second secrecy. PLAY FOOTBALL AND WIN! that about sums it up for me.

I heard todd haley shits all over the players gear after practices as well, to remind them exactly what they are and were before him and pioli came here

SHIT

And then he pees on all of them in the shower