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Mecca 09-28-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6121097)
I think they saw that as a start. I don't think Pioli expected we'd win 8 games this year. He all but said we weren't going to win much. I'm not defending all of their moves, but I think their expectations were fairly realistic.

You can't put a team on the field that looks like it doesn't belong like yesterday, in today's league even bad teams should be able to compete.

SAUTO 09-28-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6121097)
I think they saw that as a start. I don't think Pioli expected we'd win 8 games this year. He all but said we weren't going to win much. I'm not defending all of their moves, but I think their expectations were fairly realistic.

he basically let us all know that it would be a fairly lengthy process in his press conference when he was hired.

IIRC he said that the process would take some time and ownership acknowledged that fact and they would get the time needed to get it right.

The next time someone says the thought they would win 8 games that transcript should be thrown out

Mecca 09-28-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6121085)
it's not really 30???? where have you been? we have 30 new players on the roster. so yeah it's 30

Are you happy to know that for the most part they just replaced turds with turds so it's still a turd?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-28-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6121097)
I think they saw that as a start. I don't think Pioli expected we'd win 8 games this year. He all but said we weren't going to win much. I'm not defending all of their moves, but I think their expectations were fairly realistic.

Their free agent activity suggests otherwise.

SAUTO 09-28-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6121107)
Are you happy to know that for the most part they just replaced turds with turds so it's still a turd?

no matter what you think of the players the fact remains that they turned over 30 guys from the roster

kcfanXIII 09-28-2009 07:07 PM

don't get me wrong, it sucks there is hardly any talent, and they're really no better than last year, but at least the ship has a direction instead of turning endlessly in circles.

Mecca 09-28-2009 07:07 PM

Turning it over to turn it over isn't a success, would you rather have 5 guys who can do their jobs or 30 who can't?

RedThat 09-28-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 6121070)
you want instant results, you need to move along. instant is never as good as when you do it the right way. while FA is important, i have no problem with them not bringing in any overpriced under producing players. going into year 3 after a couple of drafts thats when you sign some free agents, to get you over the hump. besides, we were more than a few FA signings away from anything. i don't care if they go 3-13 or 8-8. its the same record to me, because both will send you home in january. sorry dude, you have to give this some time to clean up the crap that was on this roster. your stance on this is just plain dumb, and unrealistic.

Im sorry. the Chiefs way isn't the right way. They're not gaining anything when they replace McIntosh with Ndukwe. Neither when they decide to resign Niswanger. Or sign Mike Goff when he clearly is done and coming off an injury. This is the Chiefs way of building the offensive line?

Im looking for improvement. This isn't improvement. i want progress to see this team get better and head in the right direction. how do you get better? By going out and getting better players then you have now.

im not saying they have to be an 11-5 team today?If you're gonna do it "right" rebuild the offensive line correctly so that way you put your QB in a position to succeed. Why spend all this money on your QB, and trade for him when he has zero protection. ZERO. Does that sound dumb?

SAUTO 09-28-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6121110)
Their free agent activity suggests otherwise.

i think that had to do with having guys who would be accountable for the play on the field. And having guys that have actually won some nfl games.


Vrabel showed yesterday that he will get on people. Did you see him when a penalty took away that sack? Do you notice the way he gets on guys in the huddle?

Mecca 09-28-2009 07:08 PM

We used a draft pick to trade for a guy that was getting cut to replace McIntosh when he might be even worse...

How does that make any sense?

SAUTO 09-28-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6121125)
We used a draft pick to trade for a guy that was getting cut to replace McIntosh when he might be even worse...

How does that make any sense?

what draft pick did they use?

kcpasco 09-28-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6121121)
i think that had to do with having guys who would be accountable for the play on the field. And having guys that have actually won some nfl games.


Vrabel showed yesterday that he will get on people. Did you see him when a penalty took away that sack? Do you notice the way he gets on guys in the huddle?

I see a guy who can't believe he went from the Patriots to this pile of crap.

RedThat 09-28-2009 07:10 PM

I used to think at least give the Chiefs credit they tried to get players. But now I don't think that way. When you replace scrub with scrub I don't credit that as trying.

The Bad Guy 09-28-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6121136)
I used to think at least give the Chiefs credit they tried to get players. But now I don't think that way. When you replace scrub with scrub I don't credit that as trying.

Translation: We didn't sign a bunch of free agents to satisfy my hope for 8-8.

DaneMcCloud 09-28-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 6121076)
ya, thats what they were thinking when they cut or traded 30 guys...


god you people are dumb.

5 guys were released from the practice squad and five guys were cut from IR.

That makes twenty. Of those twenty, five are on other NFL Rosters: Johnston, McBride, Pollard, Babin and Gonzalez.


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