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Mecca 11-08-2009 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 6246129)
Well it seems like the people who get paid to figure out the best people to draft clearly disagree with you. In the past 10 drafts there has been a OT taken in the first 5 picks in every draft except 2. 3 times 2 OT went in the top 5. Only 1 S has gone in the top 5 a the 5th pick. Only a few times has one gone in the top 15.

You must be smarter than the NFL draft experts.
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And show me how many of the best teams in the league have a bunch of high draft picks on their offensive line...

CanadaKC 11-08-2009 08:23 PM
My guess is Pioli trades Dorsey for a pick....hence 2 first rounders...if I were a betting man....Berry if he's there....Bryant if he's not...not sure what we'd pick with the other 1st rounder....

Mecca 11-08-2009 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CanadaKC (Post 6246138)
My guess is Pioli trades Dorsey for a pick....hence 2 first rounders...if I were a betting man....Berry if he's there....Bryant if he's not...not sure what we'd pick with the other 1st rounder....
I think Bryant is a bit overrated.

Shox 11-08-2009 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6246134)
And show me how many of the best teams in the league have a bunch of high draft picks on their offensive line...
A hell of lot more than have a top 5 safety.
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luv 11-08-2009 08:25 PM
So, it seems we need to take the BPA with the first round pick. So the question becomes who do you think the best player available will be?

Mecca 11-08-2009 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 6246145)
A hell of lot more than have a top 5 safety.
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I think Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed are more valuable to their teams than any of their lineman....

Shox 11-08-2009 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6246153)
I think Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed are more valuable to their teams than any of their lineman....
...and which one of those guys was taken in the top 5 pick.
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Rain Man 11-08-2009 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 6246123)
You know Mecca, you talk a lot about draft value, I'm surprised you consider a safety to be worthy of a top 5 pick.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of too many top 5 safeties. Taylor maybe? and he didn't really live up to the pick.

Heh-heh.

Mecca 11-08-2009 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 6246154)
...and which one of those guys was taken in the top 5 pick.
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They have made the position be worth that much if they are that good, is the entire point here.

When you think you see a guy who can be that you take him, even if it's top 5.

Mecca 11-08-2009 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6246149)
So, it seems we need to take the BPA with the first round pick. So the question becomes who do you think the best player available will be?
Probably this guy...

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Shox 11-08-2009 08:30 PM
not when you have the glaring needs the of Chiefs
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Rain Man 11-08-2009 08:31 PM
Other than Michael Huff, the top-five safeties have generally been solid. It's funny, though, that the best safeties in the past decade or so have been taken in the middle to mid-late first round: Reed, Polamalu, etc.

Mecca 11-08-2009 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6246170)
Other than Michael Huff, the top-five safeties have generally been solid. It's funny, though, that the best safeties in the past decade or so have been taken in the middle to mid-late first round: Reed, Polamalu, etc.
Their play has upped the value of the position.

These are the best players, there's no need to reach for a shitty OT, there are no rushbackers.

You take the elite safety.

Shox 11-08-2009 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6246170)
Other than Michael Huff, the top-five safeties have generally been solid. It's funny, though, that the best safeties in the past decade or so have been taken in the middle to mid-late first round: Reed, Polamalu, etc.
Both Reed and Polamalu have great talent around them which is one of the reasons it makes them great players. What do the Ravens and Steelers have in common. Great LBs and a great pass rush...........two things the Chiefs do not have.
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ChiefsCountry 11-08-2009 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 6246165)
not when you have the glaring needs the of Chiefs
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Considering we have lost two games bc of our piss poor safety I say its a pretty glaring need.


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