Xanders+McDaniel> Pioli+Haley.

you are ****ing stoopid.

This thread tells me one thing, some people want the Chiefs to be good so badly they'll overlook things staring them right in the face just because he's not Carl.

Sadly, yes.

Correct. And it's bullshit, no matter who says it or when.

I believe they wanted to take a hard look at the players on the roster, to ascertain specifically who fits and who doesn't, because they more players that are here who work, the better it is.

I believe that's true on both sides of the ball.

I also believe that every move they've made was made with an eye towards improving the team, including the moves made during the season.

I also believe that what this team is missing is core talent, real superstars that winning teams are built around, and that's not something you can generally find floating around in free agency. Which is why the draft is so very important.

(Which is also what I think differentiates a team like Denver from us. They're at the point - and have been for several years - where they can bring in players to round out an already talented roster. Whereas the Chiefs are starting from the bottom - and have been for several years.)

Or because some people know it takes more then 1 year to build a competitive team. Weren't you the one railing aginst people calling them true fans cuz they wanted to go 8-8 or 9-7 this year by signing players?

Dude what have they done to start building a core? Where is the starting point?

There's nothing, we got a ****ing 5 tech DE in the top 5 and a shit ass QB a long with a coach that could probably be out coached on gameday by a madden player.

Man I'm really ****ing impressed with this "progress"

So, they failed?

This team hasn't been improved at all by Pioli's moves, 99% of the guys they brought in are either the same or worse than the guy they replaced and in most cases older.

Hell any of the few core players we have are Herm guys, the first year is where you start building a foundation. If this is a foundation Scott Pioli must be homeless.

FFS....it's not like everyone is expecting them to rebuild everything in 1 year. I fully expect that if they do things correctly...it's going to take 3-4 years before we can compete with the big boys in the AFC. As it stands now though....they haven't done a whole lot to show me that they know what the hell they are doing.

It took Goff getting injured before we got a new RG.
Niswanger is STILL starting at center even though he ****ing blows.
There are players out there on other team's practice squad that should be getting activated by us....but they're not. Shit...even Harris on our practice squad needs to get moved up. Instead we got Quentin ****ing Lawrence.

AND WHY THE **** IS TERRANCE COPPER STILL ON THIS TEAM!?

How many ****ing times does the same false choice have to be trotted out?

Would we be demonstrably better in W's and L's had we drafted a QB @ 3, sat him for a year behind a vet/Croyle, and drafted heavily to the strength of the draft--OL, and stayed in a 4-3

No.

Would this team be showing signs of improvement towards the end of the year as younger players got significant run over 30+ year old broke dick nothings?

I think a case could be made.


Would that be infinitely better long term for the purposes of evaluating the young players that we do have?

Yes.

If this year is an evaluation year, then BRING IN SOME MOTHER****ERS WHO WILL STILL BE HERE WHEN THE EVALUATIONS WILL MATTER.

Moving away from the gimmick spread offense is already a step in the right direction. Why is so hard to fathom, that there would be growing pains along the way?

Yes, it takes more than one year to build a competitive team.

However, when you bring in over 30 new players, and only 2 of them are clear upgrades, it's going to take a LOT longer.

Most of the folks complaining weren't expecting more than 3-4 wins.

However, they were expecting to see progress, both at the team and individual level.

People can complain that Herm and Carl left them shit, but let's not forget that the new regime turned over 70% of the roster and brought in their handpicked players - and failed at every turn, save Succop and Chambers.

This team has a long,long,long, history of front office **** ups. For me that starts at the very top and rolls down hill.