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RustShack 01-22-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs (Post 6469761)
ROFL Because he is talented and will do wonders for our team. We have seen what draft Pioli did. Hmmm. Let me think. Have Pioli reach on some nobody in the third or trade that 3rd for a Probowler with 4-5 seasons over 1000 yards. Youre just arguing for the sake of arguing. You don't even have an opinion.

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Actually we could probably draft Mike Williams with our last pick and he can be better for Boldin for a lot longer for us. Hes going to go late like Jarad Allen did because of issues and whoever drafts him will get a big steal.

lostcause 01-22-2010 06:12 PM

Hell yes, a 3rd rounder for Boldin should be a no brainer. Come on, he's younger than:
chambers
ochocinco
wayne
houshmanzadeh
coles
santana moss
randy moss
owens
ward
driver

All of which were extremely productive at Boldin's age and for year(s) after.

a year older than:
roddy white
wes welker
andre johnson

Who are still considered in the prime of their career.

The assumption we'd be buying a broken down car is ridiculous. We would be getting a proven, elite, veteran wide reciever to bring some leadership and playmaking to our offense at a position we obviously need. Any 3rd rounder is a gamble - this is not. We may not be 'on the verge', but if we're doing this right - we should be a playoff caliber team in 2012 when Boldin would still be a very viable #1 WR. I would take him over any wr past the 1st round in this year's draft.

The Bad Guy 01-22-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 6469857)
Hell yes, a 3rd rounder for Boldin should be a no brainer. Come on, he's younger than:
chambers
ochocinco
wayne
houshmanzadeh
coles
santana moss
randy moss
owens
ward
driver

All of which were extremely productive at Boldin's age and for year(s) after.

a year older than:
roddy white
wes welker
andre johnson

Who are still considered in the prime of their career.

The assumption we'd be buying a broken down car is ridiculous. We would be getting a proven, elite, veteran wide reciever to bring some leadership and playmaking to our offense at a position we obviously need. Any 3rd rounder is a gamble - this is not. We may not be 'on the verge', but if we're doing this right - we should be a playoff caliber team in 2012 when Boldin would still be a very viable #1 WR. I would take him over any wr past the 1st round in this year's draft.

It's not the 3rd rounder. It's the money he is going to get that we won't see a return on in 3-4 years.

The guy is a stud, but he's only played a full schedule 2 years he's been in the league. He's a physical receiver who takes a lot of hits. He's not a burner or a shifty guy like the other receivers you list. His body is not going to hold up forever with the way he plays.

The assumption that we are going to get a ton of miledge out of him is ridiculous.

This Chiefs team should not be giving ANYONE their third contract unless it's a minimum deal. I don't care who he's younger than, I wouldn't give any of those guys any substancial contract either besides Reggie Wayne.

RustShack 01-22-2010 06:28 PM

Moves like this are moves you make if your Super Bowl bound.

lostcause 01-22-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6469883)
It's not the 3rd rounder. It's the money he is going to get that we won't see a return on in 3-4 years.

The guy is a stud, but he's only played a full schedule 2 years he's been in the league. He's a physical receiver who takes a lot of hits. He's not a burner or a shifty guy like the other receivers you list. His body is not going to hold up forever with the way he plays.

The assumption that we are going to get a ton of miledge out of him is ridiculous.

This Chiefs team should not be giving ANYONE their third contract unless it's a minimum deal. I don't care who he's younger than, I wouldn't give any of those guys any substancial contract either besides Reggie Wayne.

The money would be fine... It's not like we're cap pressed and it's not like we have anybody in line to fill a top wr spot. It is also very unlikely we could find anybody this legit in free agency. And we could easily see another 3-4 years of 1000 yard production from him.

Incidentally, I would happily give contracts to Roddy or Andre.

Wide recievers through the draft have been proven to take around 3 years to develop. Hypothetically, that would mean that if we looked to use that 3rd on a wr - Cassel is 30 and Charles is 26 before we even have a legitimate recieving core. We can greatly shorten the time it takes to become a contender by getting a good, prime of his career wr for a 3rd rounder? I'll take that every time.

RustShack 01-22-2010 06:41 PM

I like how people look at contracts for now and don't give a shit how bad they will **** you over in a few years ROFL

The_Doctor10 01-22-2010 07:04 PM

30 for a WR isn't THAT old... they usually don't start to slow down until they turn about 33-34. It's probably worth it, it's only a 3rd...

lostcause 01-22-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6469910)
I like how people look at contracts for now and don't give a shit how bad they will **** you over in a few years ROFL

Good WRs don't come cheap unless you draft one in the middle rounds. The Chiefs have a good track record of doing just that, let's start listing them...

SAUTO 01-22-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs (Post 6469761)
ROFL Because he is talented and will do wonders for our team. We have seen what draft Pioli did. Hmmm. Let me think. Have Pioli reach on some nobody in the third or trade that 3rd for a Probowler with 4-5 seasons over 1000 yards. Youre just arguing for the sake of arguing. You don't even have an opinion.

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really?? i thought i stated my opinion before in another thread(theres only been about 15 -20 in the last year). here ill state it again.

i dont think hes worth it at this point In his career and with his injury issues
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SAUTO 01-22-2010 07:25 PM

its also funny that everyone assumes a 3rd alone will get it done. The OP says a third AND A PLAYER were offered and THAT deal MAY be enough to get it done
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Mecca 01-22-2010 07:51 PM

30 isn't old for a WR like Boldin because his game isn't speed, he's never really been fast.

He's worth more than a 3rd, he's a legit 1, basically if Bowe became everything he could be he'd be Boldin to act like drafting someone like Mardy Gilyard is a better option is pretty naive.

The Bad Guy 01-22-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6469997)
30 isn't old for a WR like Boldin because his game isn't speed, he's never really been fast.

He's worth more than a 3rd, he's a legit 1, basically if Bowe became everything he could be he'd be Boldin to act like drafting someone like Mardy Gilyard is a better option is pretty naive.

I'm not saying he's a better option. I'm saying that since I believe Boldin's style of play will lead to a shorter career than most, that exploring options in the draft would be a better move because you aren't paying a huge contract to a guy on his 3rd deal.

Mecca 01-22-2010 08:11 PM

This is a pretty horrid WR draft on top of that, but I disagree with his style of play shortening his career.

His game not being speed should help him.

Red Dawg 01-22-2010 08:14 PM

No to Boldin. He's declined the last two seasons. If he came cheap then yes, take a shot buyt he won't come cheap so I say no.

Chiefaholic 01-22-2010 11:14 PM

I didn't hear many of you complaining when we traded a 3rd for Willie Roaf. He was already beyond his prime when we made the trade, but was well worth the trade for his service to KC. Boldin would provide a sililar service in adding a legitimate playmaker at WR to force opponents to respect the pass. When they do, JC will have a field day and shred opposing defenses with the run.

We acquired a 2nd for Gonzo, what's wrong with giving up less for a younger Boldin?


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