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Props to Cassel for converting on some key 3rd downs (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=235662)

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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 7117373)

I love the fact KC is 4-2, but to give Matt Cassel credit beyond the fact he did not screw it up is ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes he has played largely mistake free football, but he is holding this team back.

I was at the game yesterday, I'm not sure about the 1st half, but I took notice on every play in the 2nd half. The Jags played the 2nd half with one deep safety. I use the term 1 deep safety loosely because he was on only about 15 yards deep. They played man to man on the WRS and had one safety deep with very few exceptions. Several times the safety was on the opposite hash mark from where Bowe was lined up. The other 8 defensive players were inside 5 yards of scrimmage. Bowe had half the field one on one with a defender. Not one time did we run Bowe (or any other reciever) on a go pattern. We never tried to explot a complete advantage. There was nothing for Cassel to read, nothing was being disguised. It was right there to be taken and we did not.

Why is this??? Because our coaches are to stupid to recognize what is going on? I don't think so? Because Bowe or anther WR is completely uncapable of running a go pattern?? This might have a merit, but the answer is still no.

The fact is they know Cassel is not capable of executing the throw. They don't have confidence in him. On Bowes TD receiption he was about 10 yards behind the defender and Cassel underthrew it so bad he had to stop and wait on the ball. Because he is a beast to bring down he was able to run through the tackles of the defenders who were able to catch up to him.

The fact is we were able to run very effectively against a poor run D despite the fact they were selling out to stop it. Against better defenses who will be able to slow the run game down with 8 in the box, Cassel will be have to win games by challenging the defense over the top. Absolutely nothing suggests he will be able to do it!!!

I hope I have to totally eat my words, but I'm very afraid I totally right. We will see.

Some of you really carry on that elite QBs make all the throws, and none of their receivers aid their stats.

Cassel has his limitations, but to continually try to find fault in everything he does is just a joke anymore.

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 7117397)

Well for one thing, many of the QB's ahead of him have had an extra game, so he should at least be higher in TD's to be fair. Also, I have him at 26th in pass yards per game (Not a huge difference...(min. 14 passes per game)) But I have a feeling you are including guys that have some less games played....Passing yards per SEASON he comes up to 23rd and that is with a game less than many of the other QB's.

Not looking at INTS? Not Looking at Yards Per Completion? Sacks taken? Wins?

Not looking at the whole picture...

Also, the yards per game is a little unfair, because of how many rushing yards per game we have gotten.

I'm not a blind Castle supporter, but I am also not a blind basher either. The guy is playing OK right now in my eyes. I think people should give credit where credit is due.

Dude you are to bring YAC to the table which is Cassel's best friend on the stat sheet.

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 7117430)

Dude you are to bring YAC to the table which is Cassel's best friend on the stat sheet.

Which QB in the NFL isnt a beneficary of the YAC's?

Why people discount this is crazy, Yet if Manning gets 30 Yac on a play, its okay, just because its not Cassel...

This logic is just goofy..

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 7117430)

Dude you are to bring YAC to the table which is Cassel's best friend on the stat sheet.

I still find it amazing that some people think that a pass that travels 20 yards in the air and then is run for 40 yards for a TD is somehow less significant than a pass that travels 60 yards in the air.

I am pretty sure they both get you 6 points.

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 7117430)

Dude you are to bring YAC to the table which is Cassel's best friend on the stat sheet.

It's every QB's best friend. But carry on thinking that Cassel is the only one who benefits from YAC.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7117454)

or how about a 2 yard swing pass to Charles that goes for 20 yards, and rinse and repeat that through the game.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7117454)

Only in KC with tools like Tribal Welfare think that the QB has to throw it in the end zone each time for it to be a real touchdown.

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7117450)

Which QB in the NFL isnt a beneficary of the YAC's?

Why people discount this is crazy, Yet if Manning gets 30 Yac on a play, its okay, just because its not Cassel...

This logic is just goofy..

Dude you didn't know that none of Manning's yards are from YAC?

Manning is a perfect example of YAC, he doesn't throw bombs down field all day, they feast on slants and crossing routes.

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 7117463)

or how about a 2 yard swing pass to Charles that goes for 20 yards, and rinse and repeat that through the game.

I bet your dad threw every pass on the money in high school.

How many swing passes has Jamaal caught this year? 3-4?

Since when is having YAC a bad thing? Like 80% of Welker's yards are YAC. Are you going to fault Brady for that?

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7117465)

Dude you didn't know that none of Manning's yards are from YAC?

Manning is a perfect example of YAC, he doesn't throw bombs down field all day, they feast on slants and crossing routes.

It's good to know that you think Cassel is the next Manning. So does that mean he'll be a multiple MVP award winner too?

The team has some young 'receivers' that are capable of catching the ball, even when it doesn't hit them right in the hands. Not surprisingly, the QB is looking better as a result. The offense needs a WR1 that can create separation and hold onto the ball, and it needs to improve the pass blocking. If the Chiefs can get that done, Pioli and company will be able to focus on fixing the defense.

I'm just happy that he knows which guy is the center. Cassel has an opportunity in this league to become one of the most exciting players since Fa-Va-Rah because you never know what the hell's going to happen when he takes the snap. The ball could be high, it could be low, or it could wind up in Clark Hunt's sister's cleavage.

His handoffs are improving every week, though, and you can tell he's having fun out there by the way he repeatedly fist pumps as he celebrates by himself on the sideline.

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 7117493)

It's good to know that you think Cassel is the next Manning. So does that mean he'll be a multiple MVP award winner too?

You go from one extreme to another.

We don't think he's Manning. Dillusional tools, like yourself, try to put that out there because you have nothing else.

We think he's playing as well as could be expected right now and you continually want to change the criteria for QBs to suit your old bull argument.

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 7117463)

or how about a 2 yard swing pass to Charles that goes for 20 yards, and rinse and repeat that through the game.

If that's what most of the plays were, I would be concerned but the fact is not 1 of Moeaki's team leading catches was a swing pass. I don't remember Bowe catching one of those either. Bowe is also avg 19 yards a catch.

Be an ostrich if you like.