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DaneMcCloud 11-14-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7173425)
It isn't dumb considering he asked to be traded twice, was out all last year on IR, and signed his tender 1 week before training camp to avoid paying all the fines he would have incurred. The only reason it didn't happen sooner was the Chiefs didn't want to start a predence by giving in to whiny players.

Bullshit.

First off, he wasn't out "all last year".

Secondly, he was a proven player but they decided to go a "different direction" and ****ed with him. I'd tell them to **** off, too.

If you don't think that Jared Page would have been a valuable member of the 2010 Chiefs, you're a ****ing idiot.

Titty Meat 11-15-2010 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7173528)
Bullshit.

First off, he wasn't out "all last year".

Secondly, he was a proven player but they decided to go a "different direction" and ****ed with him. I'd tell them to **** off, too.

If you don't think that Jared Page would have been a valuable member of the 2010 Chiefs, you're a ****ing idiot.

Define valuable Dane because i'm not so sure we wouldn't be in the same situation today considering Page has had injury problems the last few years and is already injured with the Patriots.

DaneMcCloud 11-15-2010 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 7173676)
Define valuable Dane because i'm not so sure we wouldn't be in the same situation today considering Page has had injury problems the last few years and is already injured with the Patriots.

Page was far more healthy than he wasn't available.

While it's true that anyone can get hurt, that certainly wasn't his MO.

And if you don't know his value on the field, then you haven't been paying much attention.

85 tackles, 12 passes defended and 4 INT's in 2008.

Yeah, he sucks.

:rolleyes:

BossChief 11-15-2010 02:00 AM

Id rather have the draft pick over a player that didn't want to be here.

If you don't want to be a Chief:

**** OFF

Its just a damn shame that all of our safeties got hurt at the same time, except Berry.

DaneMcCloud 11-15-2010 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7173764)
Id rather have the draft pick over a player that didn't want to be here.

If you don't want to be a Chief:

**** OFF

Its just a damn shame that all of our safeties got hurt at the same time, except Berry.

That's a dopey mentality.

He would have been more than happy to stay in KC if he had been treated respectfully and given an extension.

There are 32 teams in the league and guys will be happy with whoever pays them.

Grow up.

Titty Meat 11-15-2010 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7173689)
Page was far more healthy than he wasn't available.

While it's true that anyone can get hurt, that certainly wasn't his MO.

And if you don't know his value on the field, then you haven't been paying much attention.

85 tackles, 12 passes defended and 4 INT's in 2008.

Yeah, he sucks.

:rolleyes:

I didn't say he sucks Dane but he was a horrible tackler and an average safety at best. Stats aren't everything Cassel was the leading passer today.

BossChief 11-15-2010 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7173765)
That's a dopey mentality.

He would have been more than happy to stay in KC if he had been treated respectfully and given an extension.

There are 32 teams in the league and guys will be happy with whoever pays them.

Grow up.

whatever man.

You act like you talk to all the players and know everything that plays into every decision. You and I don't know half of what plays into these types of things.

He was given a tender offer that would have paid him 1.7 million...that was more than he had earned in his previous three years in the NFL combined if Im not mistaken.

All he had to do was bust his ass and take it like a ****ing man and earn it. Derrick Johnson didnt turn into a little bitch and he got PAID...Page turned into a bitch.

1.7 million for a guy that was a ****ing 7th rounder and was slow, missed lots of tackles and rarely performed well against good competition.

If you think we should have given him a long term extension after missing 11 games due to injury the previous year and ending it on IR and being the only player that chose not to show to any of the voluntary workouts, some dumb**** stole your log in.

Titty Meat 11-15-2010 02:18 AM

Page missed 14 games last year and has already missed 4 this year. It's fair to question his durability and considering he's injured right now he wouldn't have been much help today.

DaneMcCloud 11-15-2010 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 7173779)
Page missed 14 games last year and has already missed 4 this year. It's fair to question his durability and considering he's injured right now he wouldn't have been much help today.

Bullshit.

He played in 48 straight games until last year and this year, he had no training camp or OTA's.

The ****ing blind homers around here are ****ing KILLING ME.

DaneMcCloud 11-15-2010 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7173778)
whatever man.

You act like you talk to all the players and know everything that plays into every decision. You and I don't know half of what plays into these types of things.

He was given a tender offer that would have paid him 1.7 million...that was more than he had earned in his previous three years in the NFL combined if Im not mistaken.

All he had to do was bust his ass and take it like a ****ing man and earn it. Derrick Johnson didnt turn into a little bitch and he got PAID...Page turned into a bitch.

1.7 million for a guy that was a ****ing 7th rounder and was slow, missed lots of tackles and rarely performed well against good competition.

If you think we should have given him a long term extension after missing 11 games due to injury the previous year and ending it on IR and being the only player that chose not to show to any of the voluntary workouts, some dumb**** stole your log in.

No offense but we're not all created equal.

You're guessing, which puts you in a precarious position if confronted with facts.

Titty Meat 11-15-2010 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7173782)
Bullshit.

He played in 48 straight games until last year and this year, he had no training camp or OTA's.

The ****ing blind homers around here are ****ing KILLING ME.

I'm a blind homer? Last week I was told I hated the Chiefs because I said Denver would beat us now I'm a blind homer? I JUST CANT ****ING WIN WITH YOU PEOPLE

BossChief 11-15-2010 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7173783)
No offense but we're not all created equal.

You're guessing, which puts you in a precarious position if confronted with facts.

I'm not guessing one bit.

Facts:

He is slow
he missed a bunch of tackles...consistently.
He didn't have good games against the good teams, he had good games against the Raiders.
He missed 11 games last year
He ended last year on IR
He refused to attend any offseason workouts (he was the ONLY player to do so, even Waters and Vrabel attended when their professional history shows they normally don't)
He refused to sign his tender until he would get traded. A damn good tender, in fact.

Shit, Derrick Johnson played for us for what? 5 years before he had to play for a 6th to earn his contract...and Page should have been signed after 3 and another that was severely cut short by injury?

please

If you think the facts are that we should have bent over and appeased him by signing that type of player to a long term deal, with a lot of up front money, that would mean he basically had to start for us for a few years and have better players on the bench (Lewis) then I don't know what to tell you.

"we aren't all created equal"

Yeah, you're right.

no offense

Saccopoo 11-15-2010 03:48 AM

Spot on Hamas.

I hope people are thrilled with our second round novelty standing on the sidelines in street clothes, our first round safety who runs out of gas after 20 yards of running and our first round defensive end, who, in a nutshell, sucks dog nuts, while Beadles ass raped our defensive line all game long. He thoroughly dominated Dorsey and Jackson.

Let's not take offensive linemen in the draft though because we need "playmakers" who apparently can't play.

What a complete waste of two years of incredibly good offensive line talent in the draft. I hope all of you Albert ball washers are still delusionally happy at this point.

Oh, and our quarterback is absolutely atrocious to go along with what might be the worst offensive tackle situation in the NFL. I can't wait for Pioli to take a cornerback or a middle linebacker or a punt returner in the first round of the next two drafts when quality QBOTF are going to be available.

dirk digler 11-15-2010 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7173528)
Bullshit.

First off, he wasn't out "all last year".

Secondly, he was a proven player but they decided to go a "different direction" and ****ed with him. I'd tell them to **** off, too.

If you don't think that Jared Page would have been a valuable member of the 2010 Chiefs, you're a ****ing idiot.

Quit being stupid. Page asked twice for a trade last year because he got upset about his injury situation he even admitted as much. He didn't want to be here and it was obvious the feeling was mutual since they considered him soft.

Shocking that he is hurt again.. :rolleyes:

Lbedrock1 11-15-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 7172935)
Exactly. I said this in another thread and it got bottom paged so I'll post it here again
We're rebuilding, be patient. I know all of you have been holding out for a winning season but it isn't an overnight thing.

This is why you deserve to be bottom posted. Teams are always rebuilding. We can not use that as an excuse until we start winning. In order to win you have to have a strong leader ie payton manning. I use him because he doesn't always have a strong d and he has lost most of his starter yet he is still making plays. A good leader makes those around him better, he knows where they are suppose to be. Montana taught me that when he came here and made our receiving core look like the second coming of rice and taylor. It should only take 2 years to rebuild and we are on our 4th year. We are not rebuilding we just have a sorry leader whos lack of skill has been protected by d, a running game and ST and when it was his turn to step up at a crucial time to keep their o off the field by finding a way to keep ours on the field and scoring he couldn't do it. We are growing at every position except our leadership position qb


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