I said the QB situation as a whole, not just Cassel. We went into the season with a guy that got cut by a UFL team and a 5th rounder. You think through the draft and FA that's the best he could find?

Freeman would be better right now, he is younger and still has the chance to get better, Cassel is what he is at this point. Dalton was drafted in the early 2nd iirc, so no all the good QBs weren't gone.

I am not talking about just Cassel, talking about the position as whole. We have had shit for backups, and Pioli hasn't done much to even try to improve the situation in 3 years.

Game manager Dalton baby! Should have drafted him in the first... ****ing Pioli.

Here's Freeman's progress so far...

1st year - Awful
2nd year - Very good
3rd year - Awful

When firing people, get rid of Zorn.

What has he done?

Cassel clearly regressed. Palko still looks like he belongs coaching high school and Stanzi obviously hasn't progressed in his development one iota. 3 strikes, you're gone.

Boy it's interesting to see who voted against Haley. It's like a Rogues gallery.

Scorn for Zorn!!

Yes. He's shown signs of becoming a very good coach. If we let him go he'll end up having success somewhere else, IMO.

The schedule argument doesn't fly anymore when Cutler turned into Hanie, McNabb into an even more washed up version of McNabb, Manning into Painter, Rivers into a pumpkin, and Campbell into Boller.

The 2008 Chiefs would have beaten at least three of those teams.

Brady was a game manager his first year starting, so was Ben as rookie starting, that's not always a bad thing, both grew to be pretty damn good QBs.

Freeman is 23 yrs old and has room to get better and be more consistent. Next year will tell us on him.

Yes, because if you bring in another guy you have to start from square one again with a new system and you set yourself back with a group of guys that are clearly on the rise. I support Haley and always have. The only reason I would say it might not be as big of a mistake is because you know Pioli will bring in a good coach because one more "bad choice" and its probably his job. Above all I definitely want Haley back here.

The problem is that KC's offensive system is the worst system in 30 + years.

This offense is at square one already.

Ummm... In his first year, Brady led a game tying drive against the Raiders to send it to OT in the playoffs and the game winning drive in the SB.

And for some reason, I don't see Dalton throwing LB's off his back any time soon.

I want to see how this years draft class looks next year after a full offseason program under Haley. And IMO Pioli shouldn't fire Haley unless he has someone already in line to replace him. Firing Haley and then having to go look for a HC would be a mistake. I also want Romeo to stay put and I'm not sure he would if we change coaches unless we hire McDaniels.

Also about this years draft class. They should get to attend the rookie mini camp this year since they didn't get to last year.

Haley can't keep a good OC, and insists on starting failco. That doesn't help matters much.

That has everything to do with Huard, Thigpen, Croyle, Cassel, and now Palko.
Nothing to do with Haley. Haley has done a lot of good with Bowe. Bowe is clearly sick of substandard QB play.