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Crennel: Orton Should be Starting QB in 2012 if He Wins Final 2 Games (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=253998)

teedubya

12-20-2011 08:29 PM

Step 1. Sign Orton.
Step 2. Cut Cassel.
Step 3. Kick Cassel in the nuts.
Step 4. ???
Step 5. Profit!

stonedstooge

12-20-2011 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8224444)

Do you believe Orton is a Huge upgrade over Cassel? I certainly do.

I don't think anyone here believes Orton is going to lead this or any team to a SB win.

What is worth debating is if Orton should be retained for next season.

IMO, Pioli will not draft a QB high, or even attempt to deal to move up to do so.

I believe he thinks Stanzi is the guy.

Thinks he hit his Tom Brady on his first try? Sweet

Reerun_KC

12-20-2011 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8224444)

You serious?

I think you believed that Stanzi was the guy, but the Chiefs dont, otherwise he would have praticed and played this year...

I believe you are speculating without out facts from Pioli himself...

Dexter Manley

12-20-2011 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8224459)

In 1972 they did.

Not in today's game

Did Trent Dilfer win the Super Bowl, or did the Ravens?

Jake Delhomme, Rex Grossman...

you can get to the Super Bowl with a terrible QB...

Peyton Manning is a bit different with the Colts. Indeed, clearly, the data is "in" on that score...

My favorite - Jeff Hostetler - clearly he won the Super Bowl, and Lawrence Taylor and the NYG D had nothing to do with it...

whoman69

12-20-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8224472)

Brady didn't get off the inactive list his first year either.

I have my doubts Pioli will go high for a QB either for the reason that he wants to have an experienced QB under center.

Reerun_KC

12-20-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8224488)

Brady didn't get off the inactive list his first year either.

I have my doubts Pioli will go high for a QB either for the reason that he wants to have an experienced QB under center.

So your are saying that the Stanzi is the next Brady?

whoman69

12-20-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbie (Post 8224484)

They didn't make the defenses so impotent with the rules back then. An average or below average QB is not going to get the job done anymore.

whoman69

12-20-2011 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8224489)

So your are saying that the Stanzi is the next Brady?

I didn't say that at all. I'd like for him to get a shot to prove what we have. He won't prove or disprove that from the bench. IMO Pioli is following his recipe from what happened with Brady.

stonedstooge

12-20-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8224489)

So your are saying that the Stanzi is the next Brady?

In Pioli's mind

Dexter Manley

12-20-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8224492)

They didn't make the defenses so impotent with the rules back then. An average or below average QB is not going to get the job done anymore.

No doubt the rule changes, especially for DBs, make it easier for QBs.

A great defense still shuts out a lot of teams.

The real point is that our current interim head coach should never imply

TEAM = just QB

and hopefully he won't make that mistake again.

Dexter Manley

12-20-2011 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8224500)

In Pioli's mind

Wasn't Cassel the "next Brady?"

whoman69

12-20-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbie (Post 8224502)

The last three years the organization has been saying we can get by with just an average QB (that may be an upgrade from reality). I hope the organization won't make that mistake again.

BigMeatballDave

12-20-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8224472)

Duh. Of course its speculation.

I don't know what Stanzi is.

Reerun_KC

12-20-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8224515)

Duh. Of course its speculation.

I don't know what Stanzi is.

:hmmm:

Okay... I was just messing with you...

Dexter Manley

12-20-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8224513)

The last three years the organization has been saying we can get by with just an average QB (that may be an upgrade from reality). I hope the organization won't make that mistake again.

Average may be overly kind...

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