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Rausch 01-11-2012 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8284522)
We have a need for RB. Jamaal cannot carry the load.

He doesn't have to.

We need to resign McClain, Dump 2Yrd Thomas, keep Battle, and draft another "banger" in the later (4-7) rounds.

That will give us our 5-7 touches a game to McCluster, 12-15 to Charles, and short yardage/4th quarter stuff to Battle and the draft pick...

Frankie 01-11-2012 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8284524)
Don't think Pioli would fall in love with Tannehill. He'd probably just take a guy later and develop him along with Stanzi. Tannehill offers nothing more than Stanzi.

Actually with Tannehill's foot injury his stock might drop. Who knows maybe it's bad enough that he'd be eligible for the traditional Pioli late QB pick.


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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8284542)
He doesn't have to.

We need to resign McClain, Dump 2Yrd Thomas, keep Battle, and draft another "banger" in the later (4-7) rounds.

That will give us our 5-7 touches a game to McCluster, 12-15 to Charles, and short yardage/4th quarter stuff to Battle and the draft pick...

Something like this is what I meant.

no love 01-11-2012 01:01 AM

whole thing is moot. Tyson Jackson as the #3 overall? He wouldn't "break draft value 2 out of 3 years." Well sir, I believe he already has.

htismaqe 01-11-2012 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8284470)
We need to trade UP and get the best QB prospect in the draft.


It's not going to ham-string our team long-term.

Grow a set of balls and quit justifying just going through the motions.

40 years of nothing-40 years of zero franchise QBs...this is a no-brainer, folks.

Trading up for a QB who subsequently busts will only set us back for the length of time he's here. Matt Cassel's CONTRACT didn't hurt us, his PLAY did. And once he's gone, there won't be any residual effect.

However, if we draft Trent Richardson, you can bet your ass it will set this franchise back. Visions of Okoye and Word, 3 yards and a cloud of dust - Clark would have us back to 1991 in about 2 minutes. And it would take 10 years to dig out of it.

htismaqe 01-11-2012 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8284418)
htidmaqe.....it seems like everyone else knows what they're talking about but you. You seem to like to argue and that's it. I think a power RB would do wonders for the Chiefs. Having a good running game can cover up a not so stellar OL when a PA pass only takes about 3 sec to pull off, they can at least hold that long. I like that idea a lot. The goal is to try and find depth so something like this year's injuries doesn't decimate the team as much.

I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Trent Richardson is a curtain - it all looks good up front but what's behind him still STINKS.

If you like going 10-6 and losing in the playoffs every year, by all means, draft him.

I'd prefer to see a Super Bowl in my lifetime.

htismaqe 01-11-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler360 (Post 8284460)
I agree with what you are saying.

I think what H is after is the fact that he would be a band aid on a broken leg. Just a cover up to the real problem of a qb and not having one.

Cassel did not have to win games last year, and it would be very tempting to do the whole ground and pound approach with defense again.

It would win us quite a few games but we have all seen what happens against a real qb. We lose.

That is what he is worrying about more than the player I think.

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!

Setsuna 01-11-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8284816)
I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Trent Richardson is a curtain - it all looks good up front but what's behind him still STINKS.

If you like going 10-6 and losing in the playoffs every year, by all means, draft him.

I'd prefer to see a Super Bowl in my lifetime.

Ok man. Let's just say, Chiefs D is stout as hell. Receivers are leet. You have a sick 2 RB tandem and you have a serviceable QB that limits TO. How is that not a recipe for a Superbowl or a deep playoff team? Don't make me laugh.

And don't even think I'm calling Cassel serviceable.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-11-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8284813)
Trading up for a QB who subsequently busts will only set us back for the length of time he's here. Matt Cassel's CONTRACT didn't hurt us, his PLAY did. And once he's gone, there won't be any residual effect.

However, if we draft Trent Richardson, you can bet your ass it will set this franchise back. Visions of Okoye and Word, 3 yards and a cloud of dust - Clark would have us back to 1991 in about 2 minutes. And it would take 10 years to dig out of it.

I agree with ya, except with Richardson and Charles it would be 5 yards and a cloud of dust :thumb:

the Talking Can 01-11-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8285091)
Ok man. Let's just say, Chiefs D is stout as hell. Receivers are leet. You have a sick 2 RB tandem and you have a serviceable QB that limits TO. How is that not a recipe for a Superbowl or a deep playoff team? Don't make me laugh.

And don't even think I'm calling Cassel serviceable.

because Superbowls are won by great QBs, not serviceable QBs....

I can't even believe I'm reading this from a Chiefs fan...is this Carl?

Setsuna 01-11-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8285118)
because Superbowls are won by great QBs, not serviceable QBs....

I can't even believe I'm reading this from a Chiefs fan...is this Carl?

I think Chiefs have the swag necessary to win a SB without an elite QB. You need to recognize and not be reeruned.

ChiefsCountry 01-11-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8285132)
I think Chiefs have the swag necessary to win a SB without an elite QB. You need to recognize and not be reeruned.

You are ****ing stupid, we have been down this road more times than you have been alive.

the Talking Can 01-11-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8285132)
I think Chiefs have the swag necessary to win a SB without an elite QB. You need to recognize and not be reeruned.

jesus true fan christ....

hilarious....ly stupid shit

ChiefsCountry 01-11-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8285145)
jesus true fan christ....

hilarious....ly stupid shit

He is a Jaguar and Tebow lover.

GordonGekko 01-11-2012 10:56 AM

I miss voyager and his entire draft of bigXII picks that he would have the Chiefs making.

loochy 01-11-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8285136)
we have been down this road more times than you have been alive.

Well, unless he's Jesus and was resurrected from the dead, he's only been alive once. So you've been down this road at least once, which really isn't a whole lot of times.


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