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FAX 02-26-2012 09:11 PM

What is worse? Having players that nobody wants? Or, having too many players you can no longer afford because they're so good?

I would be very sad if we lose Carr. I would hate it even more if he went to an AFCW team. My next level of hate would be the Cowgirls, though. Then, maybe the Steelers and after that, the Patriots.

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O.city 02-26-2012 09:11 PM

If Carr gets that type of money, it was a good move letting him go.

tk13 02-26-2012 09:12 PM

Carr and his agent know what's up. And they probably have all along.

And to his credit... Pioli has always been pretty good at knowing what other teams are doing. Of course that's probably because their phones are tapped, but what are you going to do.

BigMeatballDave 02-26-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8400883)
If Carr gets that type of money, it was a good move letting him go.

I hate to say it, but Pioli may have made a smart move signing Routt.

prhom 02-26-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8400882)
What is worse? Having players that nobody wants? Or, having too many players you can no longer afford because they're so good?

I would be very sad if we lose Carr. I would hate it even more if he went to an AFCW team. My next level of hate would be the Cowgirls, though. Then, maybe the Steelers and after that, the Patriots.

FAX

I don't mind losing players to other teams because we can't pay them, but I think good teams get draft picks for those players when they leave. It seems like we're going to let Carr go and use our franchise tag to save a few million dollars in negotiations with Bowe.

FAX 02-26-2012 09:17 PM

Carr strikes me as a guy who has a good head on his shoulders. He'll view this as a business decision first and foremost - which is likely why he hasn't re-upped with the Chiefs, yet.

If he's smart (and I believe him to be), he'll play for the team that offers him the most cash up front. The only leverage that Dr. Evil has is the franchise tag and that's why the negotiations with Bowe are probably intense right about now.

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FAX 02-26-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 8400893)
I don't mind losing players to other teams because we can't pay them, but I think good teams get draft picks for those players when they leave. It seems like we're going to let Carr go and use our franchise tag to save a few million dollars in negotiations with Bowe.

It's kind of non-traditional for us, though, Mr. prhom (did I spell that right?). We normally have like maybe 2 or 3 really good, young players and a bunch of mediocre guys. As we improve, it will get a little more difficult to pay full market price for everybody we'd like to keep. I guess good teams face that problem all the time ... I'm not very used to it, though.

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notorious 02-26-2012 09:25 PM

Carr will INSTANTLY be considered a top 5 cornerback before he plays his first game in a Cowboy's uniform.


ESPN will blow him up to Deion Sanders stature just because he has a star on his helmet.


I am already getting sick to my stomach.

prhom 02-26-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8400896)
Carr strikes me as a guy who has a good head on his shoulders. He'll view this as a business decision first and foremost - which is likely why he hasn't re-upped with the Chiefs, yet.

If he's smart (and I believe him to be), he'll play for the team that offers him the most cash up front. The only leverage that Dr. Evil has is the franchise tag and that's why the negotiations with Bowe are probably intense right about now.

FAX

He'd be dumb not to treat this as a business deal. He's very early in his career and history should tell him that he's not going to win a championship or get paid ridiculous money playing for KC. Playing on the same team as friends and for a coach you like only go so far.

Deberg_1990 02-26-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 8400920)
He'd be dumb not to treat this as a business deal. He's very early in his career and history should tell him that he's not going to win a championship or get paid ridiculous money playing for KC. Playing on the same team as friends and for a coach you like only go so far.

In a sport where you never know which down could be your last.....I don't blame players one bit for chasing the money. Good for him.

prhom 02-26-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8400934)
In a sport where you never know which down could be your last.....I don't blame players one bit for chasing the money. Good for him.

Zactly, veterans that have made their millions can afford to restructure and play where they like, but he's just about to be set for life. I'll enjoy watching him play and having everyone think the cowboys found him like Jared Allen was with the vikes.

prhom 02-26-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8400934)
In a sport where you never know which down could be your last.....I don't blame players one bit for chasing the money. Good for him.

This is also why I feel kinda bad for Matt Forte. What kind of deal can he get now that he was injured? The bears didn't pay him and now he may never get his payday.

tredadda 02-26-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 8400958)
This is also why I feel kinda bad for Matt Forte. What kind of deal can he get now that he was injured? The bears didn't pay him and now he may never get his payday.

I still think he gets paid. He is too critical to their offense for them to let him walk.

Deberg_1990 02-26-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 8400958)
This is also why I feel kinda bad for Matt Forte. What kind of deal can he get now that he was injured? The bears didn't pay him and now he may never get his payday.

Seems like a stAnd up guy, he even played in the Pro Bowl. Stupid IMO, but classy.

GoHuge 02-26-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 8400893)
I don't mind losing players to other teams because we can't pay them, but I think good teams get draft picks for those players when they leave. It seems like we're going to let Carr go and use our franchise tag to save a few million dollars in negotiations with Bowe.

This statement is riddled with full reerun. You can't expect to get compensation on every guy that reaches free agency because he is a good player. I understand wanting to, but this philosophy is a first class ticket to cap hell. You would have to sign every guy to an extension before they reach free agency. The "spirit" of the franchise tag is not to keep a player held hostage from free agency so a team can try and get compensation for him. The NFLPA would NEVER agree to a system like that. Carr has earned the right to get top dollar for his services. If he wants to make the best business decision for himself (even if that means leaving KC) all we can do is wish him well and thank him for his service.

Bowe is more valuable to this franchise than Brandon Carr........especially after signing Routt. Carr is a fringe top 10 player at his position and Bowe had 1159 receiving yards with Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko, and Kyle Orton throwing him the ****ing ball!! JFC I don't get the debate on this topic guys......


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