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Originally Posted by Jerm
(Post 8565250)
Mayock has us taking Barron at #11...two safeties in 3 years? Can't see Pioli doing that....
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I don't either, but I see it as more than just two safeties. With Berry and Barron, you're not losing much if anything against the run compared to having a linebacker out there, and I expect they're both better at covering receivers/TEs than linebackers. So, you could leave those two in almost every snap. You can even blitz with either of them.
Because of the pretty high injury rate for safeties (especially if you use them all over), if one gets hurt you're not with a glaring step down in talent like we were last year. Barron should be quite a bit cheaper than Berry too and while I'm hoping and even expecting him to come back stronger, Berry is coming off a significant injury.
I also think there's something to be said for competition. Like how Flowers and Carr fed off each other, I think we'd see Berry and Barron do the same thing. Even Pollard and Paige I think fed off each other and played better because of it.
All of that being said, I'm very doubtful of it too.
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
(Post 8565253)
I honestly don't know. I LOVE the draft and will watch most every minute of it, but I'm not sure I'm qualified to rank players. Luck & RG3 are clearly the best. After that, I'm not sure. I really like Kalil, Blackmon, DeCastro, and Richardson. Outside of those, I really don't know.
Regarding QBs, I really liked Weeden and Osweiler as college QBs, but I have no idea how that translates to the pros.
Edit: Yesterday was the first time I (believe I) heard of Kuechly. I don't think I've seen him play. Clearly, I'm not a draft guru.
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Honestly, I'm just so ready to move on from Cassel that I'd be ok with way too many QBs, but none of them that we'd be considering really impress (I'd say I was more hopeful/impressed with Stanzi last year than most of the guys this year). I think Tannehill is the best, but he still needs development but he's young enough that it wouldn't be a problem. Age is obviously the big issue with Weeden, but there's something about his demeanor that I like. Yeah, its cheesy, but on the Gruden QB show, like Weeden said, he "wins games".
Osweiler reminds me too much of Cassel, even the attitude/demeanor. I would hope he has much more upside though. He did actually start in college, and he is young so there's time to develop him, and he's even bigger than Cassel and I would guess a stronger arm. He actually showed noticeable improvement in college too, so there's more hope that he'll develop. I wouldn't hate Osweiler, but I'm seeing too much Cassel in him for me to be crazy about him.
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
(Post 8565256)
he's a finesse LB that doesn't create turnovers....no thanks
DJ had 19 tackles for a loss and 9 forced fumbles his senior year
you better be creating turnovers or racking up sacks if I'm drafting you at 5...and all that hot air sounds exactly like the crap spewed about Jesus Curry
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I'm not big on Kuechly. To me, he's DJ without the playmaking ability (INTs/FFs/Sacks). I realize that DJ actually got better as he stopped focusing on trying to be a playmaker and just being a consistently good, but you know those plays he makes where he just slips by the lineman and gets the running back? I don't think I saw anything like that from Kuechly. I think our defense needs playmakers more, to help keep them pumped up and playing hard. There's enough other guys that are playmakers as well as being solid players that I don't know why you'd just settle.