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BigMeatballDave 07-06-2012 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8722485)
Subtlety is not your forte so I understand how you wouldn't be able to see my point.
I imagine that you have deep set eyes and a large forehead that you use to break nuts.
Do you cry yourself to sleep knowing that the QB that told your team to **** off now has 2 rings?

beach tribe 07-06-2012 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8722502)
Do you cry yourself to sleep knowing that the QB that told your team to **** off now has 2 rings?
And one they let go has another.
Can't be sure of course, but I think the Chargers have at least one title if they had either of them.
Not to say Rivers is bad, they are just that much better.

beach tribe 07-06-2012 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 8722453)
Well, yeah, you were comparing them.

I'm not saying he's 'the best' or anything, because I hate qualifying players like that. Eli is a unique QB. He plays tough and NEVER gives up on plays (which bites him sometimes) and he's played behind a terrible OL for pretty much his entire career.

Put most QB's behind that OL and they''ll shrink. Eli manned up against the 49ers in spite of being knocked on his ass damn near every time he dropped back. How many Qb's would have gotten timid after three quarters of that? Most of them.

So is he top 4? I don't care. I'd be happy as a pig in shit if our QB played like that. We'd be a contender.
Eli is just clutch. Plain, and simple. He plays his best in the biggest moments, and when the game hangs in the balance.

BigMeatballDave 07-06-2012 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 8722516)
And one they let go has another.
Can't be sure of course, but I think the Chargers have at least one title if they had either of them.
Not to say Rivers is bad, they are just that much better.
Yeah, I keep forgetting about Brees.

Chiefnj2 07-06-2012 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721913)
If you were to look at some of the guys on this list and had a choice of any of the players from Eli to #10, to replace Cassel, I doubt you'd pick Eli unless you had your head up your ass.
Really?

Petyon - I take Eli. Younger, not coming off a major series of medical issues and Eli is a much better clutch player.

Roethlisberger - Kind of a tossup depending on what system you want to run. I might go with Eli because (a) less wear and tear, (b) history of throwing more TDs, (c) more disciplined.

Stafford - Tough one. Might be the only player between 4 and 10 that I'd take over Eli, only because we don't know his ceiling yet. But, his injury history is pretty troubling and he's still relatively unproven.

Romo - No way.

Rivers - Not close to Eli. Mentally weak.

Ryan - Still ascending, but is not the same player on the road that he is at home.

Gadzooks 07-06-2012 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8722502)
Do you cry yourself to sleep knowing that the QB that told your team to **** off now has 2 rings?
Not at all. I'm a rational human being who can see that Eli has benefited greatly by playing on a team with a defense capable of restraining GB, SF and NE's offense enough to give him a chance to win.
He and his Daddy pulled a dick move on SD just like Elway did to the Colts but I'm long over it. I'm more than happy with Rivers and just wish the Chargers had a D like the Giants.

BigMeatballDave 07-06-2012 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8722557)
Not at all. I'm a rational human being who can see that Eli has benefited greatly by playing on a team with a defense capable of restraining GB, SF and NE's offense enough to give him a chance to win.
He and his Daddy pulled a dick move on SD just like Elway did to the Colts but I'm long over it. I'm more than happy with Rivers and just wish the Chargers had a D like the Giants.
Ugh.

You are very thick-headed.

Gadzooks 07-06-2012 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8722554)
Really?

Petyon - I take Eli. Younger, not coming off a major series of medical issues and Eli is a much better clutch player.

Roethlisberger - Kind of a tossup depending on what system you want to run. I might go with Eli because (a) less wear and tear, (b) history of throwing more TDs, (c) more disciplined.

Stafford - Tough one. Might be the only player between 4 and 10 that I'd take over Eli, only because we don't know his ceiling yet. But, his injury history is pretty troubling and he's still relatively unproven.

Romo - No way.

Rivers - Not close to Eli. Mentally weak.

Ryan - Still ascending, but is not the same player on the road that he is at home.
I think your a bit biased against Rivers. If he were a Chief you'd warm up to him. Also, you seemed to struggle with Roethlisberg and Stafford. Not that easy when you really look at it. What about Vick?
I think Vick has matured enough and shown enough to be in the top 5.

BigMeatballDave 07-06-2012 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8722582)
I think your a bit biased against Rivers.
This is true. Mostly because Cassel is a turd.

I would never, not ever, choose Rivers over Eli.

BigMeatballDave 07-06-2012 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8722582)
I think Vick has matured enough and shown enough to be in the top 5.
Absolutely not.

I'd take Rivers over him.

Gadzooks 07-06-2012 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8722596)
Absolutely not.

I'd take Rivers over him.
Why? Because of the dog thing or does it have something to do with the way he plays?

BigMeatballDave 07-06-2012 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8722616)
Why? Because of the dog thing or does it have something to do with the way he plays?
He's injured half the time and he's just not that good.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-06-2012 02:47 PM
All you have to do is blitz Vick and it's over. He can't read a defense to save his life. Dude can't stay healthy either.

Dylan 07-06-2012 03:53 PM
Beware!

I'm home!



I think it's time to read and contribute to this thread.

However - NASCAR's historic DAYTONA is on Friday & Saturday! But, I'll be back!

All the Best,

Dylan

Pasta Little Brioni 07-06-2012 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8722554)
Really?

Petyon - I take Eli. Younger, not coming off a major series of medical issues and Eli is a much better clutch player.

Roethlisberger - Kind of a tossup depending on what system you want to run. I might go with Eli because (a) less wear and tear, (b) history of throwing more TDs, (c) more disciplined.

Stafford - Tough one. Might be the only player between 4 and 10 that I'd take over Eli, only because we don't know his ceiling yet. But, his injury history is pretty troubling and he's still relatively unproven.

Romo - No way.

Rivers - Not close to Eli. Mentally weak.

Ryan - Still ascending, but is not the same player on the road that he is at home.
ROFL Don't tell Toad King that.


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