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O.city 07-13-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8738376)
Nope. Not in a million years.

I dunno that I believe that.


If the guy had came in and we had made the playoffs and won a game, I don't see how you can not sign him.

OnTheWarpath15 07-13-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8738377)
No, he wanted to go to Chicago... which was pretty much the same situation. And it probably turned out for the better in KC because he got to beat the Packers.

Then he turned around and without even testing the market went to Dallas as a backup. He wanted nothing to do with KC. And I'm not sure he even cared about being a starter.

I don't recall ever seeing a quote from him about Chicago, but I could be wrong.

I recall him wanting to go to Miami.

Again, I could be wrong.

OnTheWarpath15 07-13-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8738379)
I dunno that I believe that.


If the guy had came in and we had made the playoffs and won a game, I don't see how you can not sign him.

Four words:

Scott Pioli - Matt Cassel.

O.city 07-13-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8738381)
Four words:

Scott Pioli - Matt Cassel.

I realize that, and you might be right.


But how do you sell that to the fanbase?


I guess the same way they sold what went down?

Hammock Parties 07-13-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8738369)
Orton had a stronger arm than Cassel but overall hes really no better.

They are both just different flavors of the same mediocre drink.

Except one throws for 300 yards and beats the Packers.

The other throws for 93 yards and loses to Tim Tebow.

tk13 07-13-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8738380)
I don't recall ever seeing a quote from him about Chicago, but I could be wrong.

I recall him wanting to go to Miami.

Again, I could be wrong.

I watched John Clayton say this on SportsCenter. He wanted nothing to do with KC. In the end he just sucked it up and played out his time and got out. Then he didn't even wait to see where guys like Manning or Flynn signed and where spots could be open... he went straight to Dallas to hold a clipboard.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-claiming-him/

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ESPN’s John Clayton said on SportsCenter Wednesday that Orton is “trying to get word out” that he may not report to the Chiefs if Kansas City claims him.

(Presumably, part of getting the word out is telling Clayton to go on ESPN to talk about it.)

A report by NFL.com said earlier Thursday that the Chiefs are “considering” placing a claim on Orton, which is no surprise. It’s clear Orton wants to play for the Bears. That’s why he pushed for his release.

Deberg_1990 07-13-2012 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8738397)
Except one throws for 300 yards and beats the Packers.

The other throws for 93 yards and loses to Tim Tebow.

:facepalm:

Im talking abut entire body of work. not just a few cherry picked games.

Who cares if you throw for 300 yards or not? All i care about is wins.

OnTheWarpath15 07-13-2012 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8738399)
I watched John Clayton say this on SportsCenter. He wanted nothing to do with KC. In the end he just sucked it up and played out his time and got out. Then he didn't even wait to see where guys like Manning or Flynn signed and where spots could be open... he went straight to Dallas to hold a clipboard.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-claiming-him/

I'm not debating his desire to be claimed by KC. I know he didn't want to come here.

I just don't recall him being quoted saying anything about Chicago. I thought he wanted to go to Miami, where he could have a chance to start this year.

mcaj22 07-13-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8738407)
I'm not debating his desire to be claimed by KC. I know he didn't want to come here.

I just don't recall him being quoted saying anything about Chicago. I thought he wanted to go to Miami, where he could have a chance to start this year.

He wanted to go to Miami before they cleaned house and brought in a whole new coaching staff.

Hammock Parties 07-13-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8738401)
:facepalm:
Im talking abut entire body of work. not just a few cherry picked games.

Orton has averaged 249 yards per game over his last 37 games.

It's pretty obvious to anyone he's better than Cassel.

Deberg_1990 07-13-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8738422)
Orton has averaged 249 yards per game over his last 37 games.

It's pretty obvious to anyone he's better than Cassel.

Told you, i dont care about stats. I care about wins, playoff wins and plays in the clutch that win big games.


Cassel and Orton are from the same turd bowl.

Hammock Parties 07-13-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8738428)
Cassel and Orton are from the same turd bowl.

Except one throws for more yards and gives you a better chance to win.

O.city 07-13-2012 07:43 PM

I was pounding the Orton bandbox.



Got shot down pretty hard for it too.

Hammock Parties 07-13-2012 07:44 PM

I have said this before, but here it is again:

Orton had no running game or defense in Denver.

He would have been a very productive quarterback in Kansas City, because he has an ability to throw the ball down the field.

Cassel lacks that ability.

Orton > Cassel

Deberg_1990 07-13-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8738438)
I have said this before, but here it is again:

Orton had no running game or defense in Denver.

He would have been a very productive quarterback in Kansas City, because he has an ability to throw the ball down the field.

Cassel lacks that ability.

Orton > Cassel

Orton career record: 35-34

Cassel career record: 28-26


WooHoo!


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