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Carlota69 10-03-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Badguy (Post 8973392)
Yes, but there isn't a name for those arbitrary stats you cited, so it is less valuable than other arbitrary stats that have long been dubbed the "triple crown".

Its less valuable??? Scoring runs, creating havoc in the bases and hitting HRs is less valuable just because it doesnt have a sexy name?? :thumb:

Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2012 12:21 PM

Don't really give a **** to be honest

Saul Good 10-03-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8973400)
Its less valuable??? Scoring runs, creating havoc in the bases and hitting HRs is less valuable just because it doesnt have a sexy name?? :thumb:

Yes. If it's so valuable, why doesn't it have a name? The name "Triple Crown" just has a certain je ne sais quoi which is proof positive of its value.

Just think about it. If Josh Hamilton hadn't missed so many games, he would have hit more HRs than Cabrera, and Cabrera wouldn't have won the triple crown, and Mike Trout would deserve the MVP. But Hamilton DID miss those games, thus making Cabrera more valuable vis a vis Mike Trout. I don't understand why this doesn't make sense to you.

If Hamilton hits two bombs tonight, Trout had a better season than Cabrera. If Hamilton doesn't hit any tonight, Cabrera had a better season than Trout.

Carlota69 10-03-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Badguy (Post 8973582)
Yes. If it's so valuable, why doesn't it have a name? The name "Triple Crown" just has a certain je ne sais quoi which is proof positive of its value.

Just think about it. If Josh Hamilton hadn't missed so many games, he would have hit more HRs than Cabrera, and Cabrera wouldn't have won the triple crown, and Mike Trout would deserve the MVP. But Hamilton DID miss those games, thus making Cabrera more valuable vis a vis Mike Trout. I don't understand why this doesn't make sense to you.

If Hamilton hits two bombs tonight, Trout had a better season than Cabrera. If Hamilton doesn't hit any tonight, Cabrera had a better season than Trout.

Ok, so if JH hits 2 bombs tonight, then Trout is better than Cabrera, but if he doesnt, then Cabrera is better than Trout? OK...

Trout just won Defensive Player of the year according to ESPN, not that has anything to do with this conversation...just happened, so I thought Id bring it up;-)

ShowtimeSBMVP 10-03-2012 01:40 PM

Miguel Cabrera, no you put the Tigers in the East or West the Tigers are a 4th place team.

Saul Good 10-03-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8973720)
Ok, so if JH hits 2 bombs tonight, then Trout is better than Cabrera, but if he doesnt, then Cabrera is better than Trout?

That is accurate, yes.

Carlota69 10-03-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Badguy (Post 8973735)
That is accurate, yes.

So, its up to Josh Hamilton, another player entirely, to determine who was a better player overall between Cabrera and Trout?? whatever you say dude...

Saul Good 10-03-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8973738)
So, its up to Josh Hamilton, another player entirely, to determine who was a better player overall between Cabrera and Trout??

Yes. Baseball is complicated.

Reaper16 10-03-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8973738)
So, its up to Josh Hamilton, another player entirely, to determine who was a better player overall between Cabrera and Trout?? whatever you say dude...

The two of you agree here, Saul is just using sarcasm to make the same points that you have been making.

chefsos 10-03-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8973887)
The two of you agree here, Saul is just using sarcasm to make the same points that you have been making.

Shhhh...

Master at work.

DJ's left nut 10-03-2012 02:34 PM

Arte must've picked up another shiny bauble.

Angels fans both confuse and distract easily.

Carlota69 10-03-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8973887)
The two of you agree here, Saul is just using sarcasm to make the same points that you have been making.

Well, Regardless of sarcasm or not, I dont think Hamilton has anything to do with it, really. Yes, if he hit 2 HRs tonight and Miggy none, then no Triple Crown,and then more than likely, Trout gets MVP. But I dont think Miggy should be judged one way or the other based on lack of HR. The MVP should be based on the player, and the individual player only and another players performance should have no bearing on the subject.

Carlota69 10-03-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8973939)
Arte must've picked up another shiny bauble.

Angels fans both confuse and distract easily.

Eat a bucket of...

DJ's left nut 10-03-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8973947)
Eat a bucket of...

$240 million just doesn't go as far as it used to.

That's okay, Arte will get you guys another trinket in the offseason. Afterall, since the Angels are soon to be consigned back to the 2nd class citizens in their own home-town, they might as well go out with a bang, right?

Words cannot adequately explain how much I'm looking forward to Trout leaving Anaheim for a better deal in 5 years when that Pujols contract is dangling around your necks like the anchor it has been from the moment it was signed.

Hey look - shiny things!

Carlota69 10-03-2012 02:47 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...award/1609585/

Counterpoint:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...award/1609615/


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