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durtyrute 10-04-2012 04:00 PM

It's his ****ing fault we are in this mess. He should have to come and play on this shit team as payback for Casselvaniabitchfacescary****headpantsshitter

bevischief 10-04-2012 04:17 PM

Guess what it shows. This is breaking news... NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Simply Red 10-04-2012 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8976848)
Pollard has won division titles, playoff games, etc since leaving KC.

and he's only 27 with a 3 year extension with the Ravens. So a 3 year window before he's 30 to win a Super Bowl.

He will get there before Tamba, Charles, Flowers, DJ etc ever even sniff another winning season as Chiefs. If ever in the prime of their careers.

So yes, I'd say Pollard is in a very significant position to make his opinion and it has a lot of value to describe how this franchise is currently being run and how others think of it around the league.

This mcaj22 guy has really blossomed nicely. I really like your opinions and additionally, I think you're a great poster. Nice to see, these days.

Mr. Laz 10-04-2012 07:11 PM

Pollard has an ax to grind

players not wanting to win hurts their career money after they leave the Chiefs


Crennel might not have the motivated but i seriously doubt they don't want to win

-King- 10-04-2012 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8976848)
Pollard has won division titles, playoff games, etc since leaving KC.

and he's only 27 with a 3 year extension with the Ravens. So a 3 year window before he's 30 to win a Super Bowl.

He will get there before Tamba, Charles, Flowers, DJ etc ever even sniff another winning season as Chiefs. If ever in the prime of their careers.

So yes, I'd say Pollard is in a very significant position to make his opinion and it has a lot of value to describe how this franchise is currently being run and how others think of it around the league.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

mcaj22 10-04-2012 07:47 PM

what are you laughing about

as bad as Pollard might have been, because I guess we were desperate for an all star safety at the time, think about this. Pioli and the new regime came in and cut Pollard, did not trade him for any value, flat out cut him....

in return since 2009 here is what Pioli has given us at safety in 4 years.....


Mike Brown
Dajuan Morgan
Ricky Price
Jon McGraw
Reshard Langford
Sabby Piscitelli
Kendrick Lewis
Eric Berry
Donald Washington
Kyle McCarthy
Travis Daniels
Abram Elam


besides Eric Berry and even he is inconsistent, Bernard Pollard is 10x better than that entire list. And it's not even ****ing CLOSE.

That's Scott Pioli. 4 years, garbage talent.

smittysbar 10-04-2012 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8977689)
what are you laughing about

as bad as Pollard might have been, because I guess we were desperate for an all star safety at the time, think about this. Pioli and the new regime came in and cut Pollard, did not trade him for any value, flat out cut him....

in return since 2009 here is what Pioli has given us at safety in 4 years.....


Mike Brown
Dajuan Morgan
Ricky Price
Jon McGraw
Reshard Langford
Sabby Piscitelli
Kendrick Lewis
Eric Berry
Donald Washington
Kyle McCarthy
Travis Daniels
Abram Elam


besides Eric Berry and even he is inconsistent, Bernard Pollard is 10x better than that entire list. And it's not even ****ing CLOSE.

That's Scott Pioli. 4 years, garbage talent.

Good post, and I totally agree.

mcaj22 10-04-2012 07:53 PM

so Pollard's opinion is valid. You want to cut an average player like Pollard that's fine, but you damn well better live up to your reputation as this talented evaluator genius GM and replace Pollard with someone better.

Which in 4 years Pioli has failed to do, and our safety position is worse than ever. That's what Pollard is right about. Pioli doesnt care, doesnt want to win, doesnt want to field actual NFL talent.

Pollard isnt good. But he is certainly an NFL talent.

-King- 10-04-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8977689)
what are you laughing about

as bad as Pollard might have been, because I guess we were desperate for an all star safety at the time, think about this. Pioli and the new regime came in and cut Pollard, did not trade him for any value, flat out cut him....

in return since 2009 here is what Pioli has given us at safety in 4 years.....


Mike Brown
Dajuan Morgan
Ricky Price
Jon McGraw
Reshard Langford
Sabby Piscitelli
Kendrick Lewis
Eric Berry
Donald Washington
Kyle McCarthy
Travis Daniels
Abram Elam


besides Eric Berry and even he is inconsistent, Bernard Pollard is 10x better than that entire list. And it's not even ****ing CLOSE.

That's Scott Pioli. 4 years, garbage talent.

He wasn't better than McGraw. And posting that list is pointless. You could do that with literally any team. Name a team with great safety depth.

-King- 10-04-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8977707)
so Pollard's opinion is valid. You want to cut an average player like Pollard that's fine, but you damn well better live up to your reputation as this talented evaluator genius GM and replace Pollard with someone better.

Which in 4 years Pioli has failed to do, and our safety position is worse than ever. That's what Pollard is right about. Pioli doesnt care, doesnt want to win, doesnt want to field actual NFL talent.

Pollard isnt good. But he is certainly an NFL talent.

Berry and Lewis aren't better than Pollard?


Ok...

notorious 10-04-2012 07:56 PM

Every single place you look with this franchise you see shit.

Rausch 10-04-2012 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8977707)
so Pollard's opinion is valid. You want to cut an average player like Pollard that's fine, but you damn well better live up to your reputation as this talented evaluator genius GM and replace Pollard with someone better.

No, Pollard is the perfect example of a role player you keep on your team and eventually draft him to the bench.

He's a player with limitations and strengths and you roll with that until the better guy pushes him down the depth chart.

That said, you KEEP HIM as solid depth...

-King- 10-04-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8977722)
No, Pollard is the perfect example of a role player you keep on your team and eventually draft him to the bench.

He's a player with limitations and strengths and you roll with that until the better guy pushes him down the depth chart.

That said, you KEEP HIM as solid depth...

What the hell were his strengths?

Everybody ****ing celebrated when he was cut. But now you wish Pioli would have kept him longer? LMAO

mcaj22 10-04-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8977712)
He wasn't better than McGraw. And posting that list is pointless. You could do that with literally any team. Name a team with great safety depth.

uhhhhhhhh

most good teams already have good safety play. we dont. that's the point. 4 years of trotting out a bunch of awful garbage at safety. Mike ****ing Brown, McGraw, Sabby, Travis Daniels, Abe Elam, injury prone Kendrick Lewis, etc

all awful

smittysbar 10-04-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8977731)
What the hell were his strengths?

Everybody ****ing celebrated when he was cut. But now you wish Pioli would have kept him longer? LMAO

Pretty wide net you're casting........no not everybody


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