there, that's the look I'm talking about. From there, and depending on what the offense does, he often ends up taking on the LT from that spot. That is all I was saying.

You're a ****ing mongoloid who can't tell the difference between different defensive alignments/techniques.

Agreed. The hire is uninspiring. There's concerns, but also potential bright side.

My concern is that Sutton's track record has been anything but spectacular. My other concern is that he goes to 2-gap, which I imagine is what he ran under Mangini.

The bright side is... great to see Reid flexed schemes. Also he must have been very well respected for Rex to keep him on staff after Mangini was fired. Even if he got demoted, it's fairly unusual for a DC to stay on the team after he's fired. The other key points are that he's now familiar with the Rex Ryan scheme. Let's hope he's learned a thing or two. Also, in his first stint as DC, don't forget that he had to adjust a 4-3 into a 3-4, which can take some time to do.

Poe has the best potential by a mile of all those guys.

Why would anyone think to put him anywhere but the nose? Especially in a league where a nose with versatility to play across the line is becoming increasingly important?

Yeah he ran a 2-gap under Mangini and the defense suffered, he also was part of a decent 1-gap 4-3 under Sperm and a very very good 1-gap under Ryan. I think he will run the 1-gap because the defense's he's been associated with were better and he will have the say. I agree with Clay on the run defense but with Flowers that should be mitigated to some extent if Sutton runs anything like Rex

You are wrong.

and you're a whiny lil girl who has no idea what "the edge of the defense" even ****ing means.

Hali rushes the QB and Bailey sets the edge in that alignment you idiot and that is why he moves out to meet the LT.

JFC you have become a stupid ****ing dork.

You could make that statement about the entire defense.

These guys were so poorly coached, so fundamentally unsound that I'm giving everyone on this team a complete pass.

Bailey was primarily an attacking defensive end at Miami out of a 43. He was a legit 6'3", 285 lbs. at the combine with superb measurables. He led the Canes in sacks and TFL for two straight years and was a 1st Team All-Conference his senior year.

He was jammed into a two gap 34 or a 2-4-5 third down subpackage with shit coaching.

Two gap 34's require a decision by the linemen to choose the gap that they are going to hold right off the snap versus a 1 gap which is a presnap determined, upfield penetrating style that forces the offensive lineman to actively engage the defender versus the two gap which means to have the defender hold the o-linemen during their movements.

Bailey, Powe and Poe should all be better suited for a one gap style versus a two gap.

In fact, with the personel that we have, especially Poe and Berry, a 46 type of defense would actually be ideal. The only thing we're really missing from that is a big, press coverage corner. Someone just like Xavier Rhodes or David Amerson - one of which should be available with our first pick in the second round.

I'm with you. We just don't know what we have in some of these players, especially young guys like Bailey. So much of D-line play is about intensity, and these guys played soft as shit. And I've said this before, but when you spend almost all your time learning 2-gap, there's not much room for teaching you how to play 1-gap principles.

I don't know what we have in Bailey, but I'd like to see how he responds to better coaching and full time commitment to 1-gap.

Haloti Ngata.

Hmm... very good point.

I would still rather Poe be groomed to play more of a Wilfork role. I don't like the way traditional 0-techniques become such a huge liability in no-huddle. One of the reasons I really liked the Poe pick. I like having defensive personnel that can legitimately play every down.

sadly, he's right

That hasn't been true for a while, now.

I agree. However, Bailey has been playing 1-gap principles in sub packages this year and didn't do much with his reps. I hope I'm wrong as I would really love to see the guy pan out. At thisnpoint though, I think it would be wise to use a 2nd or 3rd on Hunt from SMU depending on how the draft shakes out.

Yeah, but being a young guy, do you think Bailey's ever had the right training to play 1-gap? I would have to imagine that in his time with KC, the majority of his time was spent learning read-and-react 2-gap principles. Might look like a different layer if you coach him to be in attack mode at all times.