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GoChargers 01-13-2013 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9315969)
What do you consider a special RB? Someone headed for the Hall of Fame? I can't think of any RBs today who will make the Hall of Fame off the top of my head? They don't play long enough anymore.

Adrian Peterson. LaDainian Tomlinson (a little farther back than "today" but still recent).

Hootie 01-13-2013 08:35 PM

how many did RGIII's receivers drop? I'm curious, because I watched a lot of Skins games and I remember a lot of drops.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9315987)
I have no problem lumping Lynch with Ray Rice and Arian Foster and guys like that who I consider "2nd tier" but I'd even put him one notch below them, too.

He's arguably a top 10 RB in the NFL. But those backs are just a dime a dozen, we see it every year.

The fact is both of these other QBs had top running games to lean on.

The Colts were 22nd.

Luck is going to be the best QB in the long term. Yes, even better than Wilson.

LINE IN THE SAND DRAWN, HOOTIE

Hammock Parties 01-13-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9315993)
how many did RGIII's receivers drop? I'm curious, because I watched a lot of Skins games and I remember a lot of drops.

37.

The Seahawks only had 26 drops.

Hootie 01-13-2013 08:40 PM

well of course they had better running games

that's what happens when you have QB's who can run and make the defense account for it

Vick...even Vince Young proved that in the past.

I'm sorry. Alfred Morris is not an ELITE running back. The fact he fared so well is A) that was THEIR offense and B) you had to pick your poison between RGIII taking it outside the edge or Morris taking it between the tackles.

I mean, that's just not even a good arguing point for Luck.

Can I see Luck developing into an all-time great? Yes. Absolutely.

Was he even close to Wilson's level this year? No. Not at all.

I'm sorry. Russel Wilson played 3 near flawless months of football on an offense that doesn't have elite playmakers other than Russel Wilson.

Hootie 01-13-2013 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9316008)
37.

The Seahawks only had 26 drops.

the Redskins had 37 drops, the Colts had 50...how many more passes did the Colts throw than the Redskins?

I bet the ratio per attempt for Washington is WAY higher than Indianapolis.

Hootie 01-13-2013 08:42 PM

I hope no one takes this as me "bashing" Luck. I know he'll be great.

He just wasn't nearly on the same level as Wilson. No way.

tk13 01-13-2013 08:44 PM

I'm pretty sure you took a blow to the head while you were banned and need to see a doctor. Wilson had a great year but to imply he's miles ahead of Luck when Luck threw for more yards than any rookie QB in the history of football, led the league in 4th quarter wins and carried his team to the playoffs is insane. This is worse than your takes yesterday, and those were horrible.

milkman 01-13-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9316017)
I'm pretty sure you took a blow to the head while you were banned and need to see a doctor. Wilson had a great year but to imply he's miles ahead of Luck when Luck threw for more yards than any rookie QB in the history of football, led the league in 4th quarter wins and carried his team to the playoffs is insane. This is worse than your takes yesterday, and those were horrible.

Yards are a poor measuring stick.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9316011)
the Redskins had 37 drops, the Colts had 50...how many more passes did the Colts throw than the Redskins?

I bet the ratio per attempt for Washington is WAY higher than Indianapolis.

Do you think RGIII or Russell Wilson would have had nearly the success they did if they had to throw 600 passes?

Hootie 01-13-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9316017)
I'm pretty sure you took a blow to the head while you were banned and need to see a doctor. Wilson had a great year but to imply he's miles ahead of Luck when Luck threw for more yards than any rookie QB in the history of football, led the league in 4th quarter wins and carried his team to the playoffs is insane. This is worse than your takes yesterday, and those were horrible.

Perhaps my Denver takes were off, maybe even by a lot.

But I also predicted the 49ers to win and said Kaepernick was vastly underrated...but I'm glad you only cherry pick certain takes.

I also picked the Falcons and I also said the Patriots would win in blowout fashion.

So I was 3 for god damn 4.

and I still think Von Miller is better than Dwight Freeney and I still think Demaryius Thomas is more talented than Marvin Kennison.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9316010)
I'm sorry. Alfred Morris is not an ELITE running back. .

Alfred Morris forced more missed tackles than everyone except Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch.

He's kickass.

Lynch and Morris are pretty ****ing awesome...and Luck's RBs are garbage.

Hootie 01-13-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9316026)
Do you think RGIII or Russell Wilson would have had nearly the success they did if they had to throw 600 passes?

RGIII no.

Wilson, yes.

After the first 6 weeks, I don't know what it was...but something clicked. The read option helped add another twist to their offense and then once Seattle started keeping defenses on their toes Wilson became an elite QB.

He has played like an elite QB now for 3 months. He has been the best QB in the playoffs so far. He does things only Russel Wilson can do.

I mean, what I witnessed today was just mind blowing. He made me forget about Colin Kaepernick's mind blowing performance from a day ago.

Hootie 01-13-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9316029)
Alfred Morris forced more missed tackles than everyone except Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch.

He's kickass.

Lynch and Morris are pretty ****ing awesome...and Luck's RBs are garbage.

Lynch, Morris AND Ballard are system ****ing backs.

Did those 3 lead the NFL in carries, too?

Hootie 01-13-2013 08:53 PM

hahahahahahaha lol like I suspected

THEY DID

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...s/seasontype/2


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