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RyFo18 02-22-2013 10:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 9425208)
What a bunch of you are forgetting he was the qb coach at green bay

He developed

Favre, Hasselback, and Brunell
NOT A QB GURU!

ROFL

OnTheWarpath15 02-22-2013 10:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9425198)
My you're awfully trolly today. Not once did I ever say the Chiefs should bring in Kevin Kolb. I didn't even suggest it, and the thought has never crossed my head.

I simply told you that Andy Reid's quarterbacks have played well within his system. And now you're trying to deflect by putting words in my mouth.

If you don't want to call Reid a QB guru, fine.
Your standards are ridiculously low if you think Kolb played well in Philly.

61% completion
6.5 yards per attempt
11 TD's
14 INT's
73 QBR

htismaqe 02-22-2013 10:56 AM
FYI, the excuse given for why Kolb couldn't secure the starting spot in Philly was that he got injured. TWICE.

Well guess what? He has the SAME PROBLEM in Arizona.

A QB that can't stay healthy cannot be, BY DEFINITION, a franchise QB.

So let's throw out Kolb.

htismaqe 02-22-2013 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 9425208)
What a bunch of you are forgetting he was the qb coach at green bay

He developed

Favre, Hasselback, and Brunell
MUCH better.

Now this is a real conversation.

htismaqe 02-22-2013 10:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9425217)
Your standards are ridiculously low if you think Kolb played well in Philly.

61% completion
6.5 yards per attempt
11 TD's
14 INT's
73 QBR
Come on, Andy Reid flipped him for picks. He's a QB genius.

htismaqe 02-22-2013 10:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9425198)
I simply told you that Andy Reid's quarterbacks have played well within his system.
Well, you're wrong.

So there's that.

O.city 02-22-2013 10:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425231)
Come on, Andy Reid flipped him for picks. He's a QB genius.
Not a knock on Reid, more an indictment of how stupid the Cardinals were. If his rep as a QB guy gets teams to do similar stupid shit for us, it will be awesome.

Chris Meck 02-22-2013 11:00 AM
All of this trade back talk is ridiculous.

NOBODY is going to trade up to #1 for a Tackle. Or a Guard. Or a corner. NOBODY. None of those players is a game changer, and you don't trade up to the #1 spot for anything less.

A QB is a game changer. If you don't have one, you're screwed. We don't. If Dorsey and Reid like Geno, they'll take him at #1. I hope they do, I hope we can go forward with our very own #1 guy and I hope he becomes the franchise QB we've always wanted.

But I don't know. It may be a 2nd rounder.

Deberg_1990 02-22-2013 11:00 AM
Reids next best QB while in Philly was Vick. oh yea, hes a former #1 pick.

Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 11:03 AM
I would counter and say that there isn't anyone worth the #1 pick in this draft.

Warmack? You don't take a guard #1 no matter what. I wouldn't even take Will Shields #1.

Jones? nope (stenosis?)

Joeckel? Maybe ... if you think he is a Jonathan Ogden level type LT

Milliner? A cornerback better be able to shit gold to be taken #1 and i heard that Milliner needs surgery.

In a draft with no obvious gold star prospects the value of the position takes on more weight. Quarterback is the most valuable position in the NFL. So if you are going to 'reach' for a player at #1 then you reach for a QB.

jmo

RyFo18 02-22-2013 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425234)
Well, you're wrong.

So there's that.
Mr. All Knowing: Still waiting on your QB guru list.

Chris Meck 02-22-2013 11:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9425248)
I would counter and say that there isn't anyone worth the #1 pick in this draft.

Warmack? You don't take a guard #1 no matter what. I wouldn't even take Will Shields #1.

Jones? nope (stenosis?)

Joeckel? Maybe ... if you think he is a Jonathan Ogden level type LT

Milliner? A cornerback better be able to shit gold to be taken #1 and i heard that Milliner needs surgery.

In a draft with no obvious gold star prospects the value of the position takes on more weight. Quarterback is the most valuable position in the NFL. So if you are going to 'reach' for a player at #1 then you reach for a QB.

jmo
THIS. It's not like there's a consensus #1 player that's just not a QB. NONE of these options is a home run. So I think you take the position of greatest possbile impact to your team. That would be QB.

PaulAllen 02-22-2013 11:10 AM
Watch it'll be Te'o LMAO

OnTheWarpath15 02-22-2013 11:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425234)
Well, you're wrong.

So there's that.
Yep.

Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record (.463)
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And those numbers are inflated due to Vick, who was a #1 overall pick.

RyFo18 02-22-2013 11:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9425271)
Yep.

Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And those numbers are inflated due to Vick, who was a #1 overall pick.
I stand corrected then.


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