Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9485209)

and exoter...

I'm not the type of person to ever go into a place of business and make any demands. I may go get an estimate, and if I feel like it is too much, I don't barter. I thank them and move along...

I work in the hotel industry now and I ****ing hate people who call me and barter their rates...it happens every ****ing day and drives me crazy.

So I am not a hypocrite. Someone quotes me...I either pay it or I don't...but I don't make demands and I don't say 'how about this amount instead?' I'm not that type of person even if I wanted to be...I would find it to be awkward.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9485217)

You don't get it, and never will. LMAO



Good luck. You know that you are the equivalent of the guy expecting to get a free or discounted beer even though he never tips and/or rarely comes into the bar.

"But the beer only cost you $.75! Why do you charge $3!"


Or better yet, you are the guy that tries to sneak his own beer in.



Reality is a bitch. You could have replaced the mirror yourself instead of wasting time complaining about it here.

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9485218)

so I'm getting some basic electrical work done on my car today and they said since it is an Audi it'll take about an hour and cost around $120...

if this was your shop and your quote how much additional would you charge me to install my own side mirror on a car that I was told the job is VERY simple and not time consuming?

I'm honestly JUST curious.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9485226)

Hopefully you've never bought food from a street vendor. You can't be sure that the hotdogs are cooked properly. It's a very complicated and expensive processes. If the cart explodes and kills your entire family, they probably won't even give you a free brownie weigh a scoop of ice cream on top.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9485228)

in my shop?


probably right around 20 bucks. LOL. seriously.

especially if you were a repeat customer.

its a really easy job on most rigs. just gotta hold your mouth right

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9485250)

I wouldn't offer up an actual number. I'd just ask them how much they would charge since they're already working on your car. If you don't like the quote....obviously don't do it.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9485235)

You don't get it, and it is exceptionally hard to drive the point through your head, despite the fact that I've gotten much praise in PMs and Rep for my "14,000 character posts".

The point I'm trying to drive home to you is simply this.

-You clearly do not understand how a business works, how it operates, the costs associated with US bringing the Services to YOU, and extending that coverage in the case that something bad and unforeseen happens.

You sit here and bitch about not spending more than 20 dollars to get it fixed because the car is worth nothing to you, but that isn't how a mechanic or shop owner sees it. Just because you don't have pride of ownership in your stuff, doesn't mean that we don't have pride in our work.

Even if a car is worth 1 dollar, it doesn't devalue my services offered to you, that is your choice to get it fixed, but you should NEVER assume or suspect that the cost of repair would be cheap because it is a cheap car, and that is exactly what you've done here.

You commented on the fact that you'd rather toss 20 bucks to a mexican to have them fix your car, than to have your mechanic do it, if it isn't less than 20 dollars.

All I did is explain to you how business works from inside the business all the way to the customer.

The problem here is either your skull is too thick, or you really are just too stupid in the world of business to understand what I've told you.

Not my problem.

I will admit though, I used you as a soapbox to hopefully explain to others how the business works so people like you don't make the same foolish mistakes.



Read that again Sauto, I didn't speak about raising the labor hour because I wouldn't make profit, in fact it was the inverse, that I wouldn't be lowering the labor hour because I couldn't make profit on it.

Disregard the unethical bit, it is strictly unlawful to do so in a place of business.

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9485244)

my roommate is a big car guy and he told me to go in there and ask them if they could do it for $20 since I already had the part and since it was such an easy thing to do...

as a person who doesn't like to make an asshole out of myself (sober at least), I made this thread to solicit opinions on whether or not this "hey by the way, I have this mirror and was wondering if I could get you to change it for like $20" would be an offensive offer and apparently not only is it offensive...but it warranted 35 life lessons.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9485241)

why would you raise the labor rate 10-20% then?

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9485250)

I wouldn't offer up an actual number. I'd just ask them how much they would charge since they're already working on your car. If you don't like the quote....obviously don't do it.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9485250)

I wouldn't offer up an actual number. I'd just ask them how much they would charge since they're already working on your car. If you don't like the quote....obviously don't do it.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9485251)

see here is where you said you would RAISE the labor rate by 10 - 20 %


that IMO is unethical. Book times are there for a reason.

it doesnt matter what your building and employees cost you. not making money? do better work.

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9485270)

you explained shit to me that I didn't ask to be explained...I understand 100% of what you said. I understood it the first time.

At no point did I not understand it. I GET IT.

my ****ing God

TO ME, THE GUY WITHOUT THE ****ING MIRROR, THE FIX IS WORTH $20. IF NO ONE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD WOULD FIX IT FOR $20 AND I COULDN'T FIX IT MYSELF...I JUST WOULDN'T FIX IT.

Did anyone read that 'best one line of advice' you ever got thread?

one guy's dad said to him when he was bragging about how much his comic collection was worth "it's only worth as much as someone will pay for it."

well in this case, I'm that someone...

and for someone who doesn't give a shit about this car and ALREADY HAS THE ****ING PART...it is worth $20 god damn dollars to me...if that isn't worth it to said business, then that's fine with me and I hold no ill will and totally understand.

if that $20 is worth it to a Mexican then ****ing score one for me!

PRETTY SURE I DON'T NEED A WARRANTY, LIABILITY, INSURANCE, OR A LAWYER FOR SOMEONE TO INSTALL A ****ING MIRROR THAT I ALREADY OWN AND HAVE PAID FOR...

and if it isn't worth $20 for 5 minutes of someone's time then I understand. I do. I totally get it. That's why I made the thread. I wanted to know if 'big business' auto shops would consider doing something THIS EASY for the $20 I was willing to pay for something that was offered to me free of charge.

THAT WAS ****ING IT. THE END.

EXOTER YOUR POST COULD HAVE BEEN:

HEY PEYTON'S PRINCESS, I OWN A SHOP. NO ****ING WAY WOULD WE DO THIS. DON'T EVEN ASK.

and that would have been WAY MORE INFORMATIVE TO ME then the 210,000 character life lesson you decided to give to me

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9485217)

You don't get it, and never will. LMAO



Good luck. You know that you are the equivalent of the guy expecting to get a free or discounted beer even though he never tips and/or rarely comes into the bar.

"But the beer only cost you $.75! Why do you charge $3!"


Or better yet, you are the guy that tries to sneak his own beer in.



Reality is a bitch. You could have replaced the mirror yourself instead of wasting time complaining about it here.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9485286)

This is a terrible analogy.

Originally Posted by seclark (Post 9485259)

damn, that seems pretty ****in simple...
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