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Hootie 05-09-2013 09:17 AM
Drew Brees had a so so year to say the least. I'll give them that.

patteeu 05-09-2013 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9670468)
You couldn't be more wrong it's ridiculous. Besides even if you weren't, I'd take the guy that can get you the game breaking run anyday over some slug plodding for 2-3. Those turds are a dime a dozen.
Wrong about what?

I'm not saying I want a dime a dozen plodder. Are you saying you don't want better first down production or more first downs?

patteeu 05-09-2013 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9670476)
You don't make any sense. If you take way JC's best 20 carries, you have to do that to EVERY RB.

Let's say a guy averages 4YPC and without his long runs goes down to 3.5 because he's consistently mediocre ROFL. You'd take that over JC's 6 YPC dropping to 3.7???????
What are you talking about?

Msmith 05-09-2013 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9670497)
Drew Brees had a so so year to say the least. I'll give them that.
Drew's 2012 stats: 422/670. 63% completions. 5,177 yards. 323.6 yards per game. 43 touchdowns and 19 interceptions. QB rating of 96.3.

Matt Ryan's stats: 422/615. 68.6% completions. 4,719 yards. 294.9 yards per game. 32 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. QB rating of 99.1.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-09-2013 11:59 AM
5K and 43 TD's is so so?? Heh

-King- 05-09-2013 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9670497)
Drew Brees had a so so year to say the least. I'll give them that.
Hahahahahahaha
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'Hamas' Jenkins 05-09-2013 12:37 PM
Might there exist a reality wherein PFF is a useful research tool but also neither the Bible nor a rag used to wipe up dysentery explosions?

Titty Meat 05-09-2013 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9670971)
Might there exist a reality wherein PFF is a useful research tool but also neither the Bible nor a rag used to wipe up dysentery explosions?
It's Chiefsplanet dude its either or depending on which argument you want to make.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-09-2013 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9670541)
Wrong about what?

I'm not saying I want a dime a dozen plodder. Are you saying you don't want better first down production or more first downs?
I have no idea what you are talking about. Charles was outstanding last year even without the game breaking runs.

patteeu 05-09-2013 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9671032)
I have no idea what you are talking about. Charles was outstanding last year even without the game breaking runs.
OK. I don't know what you were talking about either.

unlurking 05-09-2013 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9670476)
You don't make any sense. If you take way JC's best 20 carries, you have to do that to EVERY RB.

Let's say a guy averages 4YPC and without his long runs goes down to 3.5 because he's consistently mediocre ROFL. You'd take that over JC's 6 YPC dropping to 3.7???????
I'd love to see that, when can I expect your work to be completed? :)

(Too lazy/busy to do it myself)

patteeu 05-09-2013 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9671032)
I have no idea what you are talking about. Charles was outstanding last year even without the game breaking runs.
OK. I don't know what you were talking about either. Jamaal Charles is a fantastic RB, boom or bust concern not withstanding.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-09-2013 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9671068)
I'd love to see that, when can I expect your work to be completed? :)

(Too lazy/busy to do it myself)
Spoiler!

-King- 05-09-2013 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9671068)
I'd love to see that, when can I expect your work to be completed? :)

(Too lazy/busy to do it myself)
I did it for Adrian Peterson. His averaged dropped to 3.8. I might do it for Foster too cause I think him, AP and Charles are the best backs in the league.

But yeah doing it for AP proved that if you take the top ~20 carries from any back their YPC is going to drop dramatically.
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ThaVirus 05-09-2013 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9669704)
So, 33.6 ypc over those 19 carries. That tells me that he's providing slightly more than one game-changing play per game. That's what elite players do.
Very good argument here.


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