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Sweet Daddy Hate 11-02-2013 01:52 PM

They will NOT be drafting a line around Axl.

Delusional.

Saccopoo 11-03-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10149196)
They will NOT be drafting a line around Axl.

Delusional.

Wanna bet?

I might change every single draft pick to alternative OL and WR guys since ours suck so ****ing bad.

Saccopoo 11-10-2013 11:35 AM

Newly edited to reflect the potential shift in NFL draft slottings.

I've had Gabe Jackson at the Chiefs pick forever, but I don't think he's around when they select in the first round. He's been the SEC offensive lineman of the week nearly every week this season and is dominating the conference. Defensive players are running away from him at this point.

As well, the real problem with the Chiefs has been the inability of their wide receivers to have a high level positive impact on the game. They have dropped a metric shit ton of balls and don't show a real good awareness in this west coast/pistol system that the team is running. They've handicapped the Chiefs and it's offense more than anything, including the crappy play by the interior offensive lineman.

I also did not go after a FS. With Commings selected in the 2013 draft, and the activation of Brad McDougald last week, I think that there are two potential high level players for that position, in addition to incumbent free safety and Chiefs Planet dog Kendrick Lewis.

Fales represented BOP. He has been an excellent QB this season and fits everything that the Chiefs could want in a backup to Smith. Personally I don't think that they go QB this high or at all, but he was best player available in this mock situation.

O.city 11-10-2013 11:48 AM

Switch fales with Derek Carr and were good.

Saccopoo 11-10-2013 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10173807)
Switch fales with Derek Carr and were good.

Carr and Fales are pretty much the same guy, and I think Fales has better field understanding and accuracy as well as already experienced in the same type of system that Reid is currently running. Carr is working with a better team.

Pretty easy to dissect the comparisons. They both are playing in the same conference.

And as I said earlier, neither are as good as Utah State's Chuckie Keeton, who would be the guy I'd look at drafting if I was the Chiefs next season, depending upon how he comes back from the knee injury.

Personally, I think that by picking either Fales or Carr, you are simply getting a backup to Smith, not a potential starter in three or four years. You are basically drafting a replacement for Chase Daniel, not an eventual replacement to Alex Smith. And that's not worth spending a first round pick on, which you will most likely have to do when picking Derek Carr.

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WEEK 9 SENIOR BOWL COLLEGE SENIOR OF THE WEEK: David Fales has had his share of great games at San Jose State. Saturday, the Spartans' senior may have had his best. Fales was 27-37 passing for 482 yards and five touchdowns, including the game-winner with seven seconds left, to lift SJSU past Wyoming, 51-44. He also ran for a touchdown as San Jose State overcame a 16-point deficit in the second half. Fales now has 50 career touchdowns passes and is nine shy of tying the school record. For his performance, Fales is the Reese's Senior Bowl College Senior of the Week. - SeniorBowl.com
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WEEK 10 CBSSPORTS.COM NATIONAL OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK: Fresno State QB Derek Carr...Derek Carr has been on an offensive warpath as of late, breaking school records left and right while leading the Bulldogs on their climb up the BCS standings. Carr became Fresno State's career passing leader on Saturday night thanks to a 487 yard performance that included three passing touchdowns and another score on the ground. It was Carr's 12th career 400-yard passing game, and the Bulldogs needed every bit of it with Nevada fighting back in the second half and cutting the deficit to one score early in the fourth quarter. - CBSSports.com

O.city 11-10-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10173843)
Carr and Fales are pretty much the same guy, and I think Fales has better field understanding and accuracy as well as already experienced in the same type of system that Reid is currently running. Carr is working with a better team.

Pretty easy to dissect the comparisons. They both are playing in the same conference.

And as I said earlier, neither are as good as Utah State's Chuckie Keeton, who would be the guy I'd look at drafting if I was the Chiefs next season, depending upon how he comes back from the knee injury.

Personally, I think that by picking either Fales or Carr, you are simply getting a backup to Smith, not a potential starter in three or four years. You are basically drafting a replacement for Chase Daniel, not an eventual replacement to Alex Smith. And that's not worth spending a first round pick on, which you will most likely have to do when picking Derek Carr.



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Thing I like about Carr is that he has a better arm, and he calls about 80% oft he plays for Fresno. He doesn't look to the sidelines, he does it all himself.

I think his upside is more than a backup though, but he'd need a year or two. I think he's essentially a shorter bray with better intangibles.

It just depends what we do early. I think this would be a Great year (if we are in the 25-30 area) to trade back in the early secondary nd recoup another 2 or 3. Beckham could still be there plus grabbing another pick? Win win IMO.

Nightfyre 11-10-2013 06:50 PM

I haven't watched any Fales this year, but based on what I watched last year, the guy doesn't have an NFL arm. The end.

Kingsburg#12 11-10-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10173851)
Thing I like about Carr is that he has a better arm, and he calls about 80% oft he plays for Fresno. He doesn't look to the sidelines, he does it all himself.

I think his upside is more than a backup though, but he'd need a year or two. I think he's essentially a shorter bray with better intangibles.

It just depends what we do early. I think this would be a Great year (if we are in the 25-30 area) to trade back in the early secondary nd recoup another 2 or 3. Beckham could still be there plus grabbing another pick? Win win IMO.

Carr is a solid character, but comparing him to Bray is ridiculous. Bray has a much stronger arm and his only knock was footwork and maturity and zero coaching in college. He's 21 years old and Reid has been very impressed with his development and work ethic. "If he develops properly", His arm and abilities will compare to Favre and Marino.
Carr doesn't have the arm, or the height. The ball takes a while to reach the target. Good decision maker against terrible competition. His ceiling is much much lower.

Saccopoo 12-02-2013 07:38 PM

Newly updated to reflect the ongoing needs of the Chiefs 3/4ths of the way through the 2013 season.

BryanBusby 12-03-2013 04:12 AM

I don't see Haha Clinton-Dix lasting into the 20's. Beyond that, name owns so much.

The Rams will be picking for the second time by that point and they will take him if he's still up because this is a bad safety class and they have terrible ones.

RunKC 12-06-2013 03:20 PM

Some options for the Chiefs right now in the late first round.

Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
Austin Sefarian-Jenkins TE Washington
Lamarcus Joyner S FSU

But the homer in me would love it if Marquise Lee fell to us somehow.

RealSNR 12-06-2013 08:06 PM

I would cream if Lee fell to us in the first round.

Our TE situation is also pretty brutal.

RunKC 12-06-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10253367)
I would cream if Lee fell to us in the first round.

Our TE situation is also pretty brutal.

Would you draft a TE round 1 even though Fasano will be back and Kelce is healthy next year? Cut Duck Dynasty maybe?

I think if Sefarian-Jenkins is on the board, we gotta take him. He's too good.

RealSNR 12-07-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10253434)
Would you draft a TE round 1 even though Fasano will be back and Kelce is healthy next year? Cut Duck Dynasty maybe?

I think if Sefarian-Jenkins is on the board, we gotta take him. He's too good.

Fasano or Beardman can leave. Or even Kelce if he has Moeaki Syndrome.

I would hope it's Fasano just because of age. If you're depending on a guy like him as your #1 TE, you should probably consider finding an upgrade.

RunKC 12-09-2013 11:09 AM

Let's be honest here. Reid is going to take a big fatty like he always does.

Cyril Richardson
Gabe Jackson
Stephon Tuitt (if he's there)


I wouldn't mind Tuitt actually. 6'6" 312 lbs, is very athletic and has 18 sacks the last 2 years. He reminds me of Sheldon Richardson.


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