Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10211520)

I don't see anything stating that Oklahoma pulled his offer.

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10211758)

"So rare as to be effectively irrelevant" to the consideration of the credibility or all rape cases. That's what I said. Remember when you posted this: ?

I was responding directly to that. I don't question the credibility of any rape accusation. It's a very small number of false accusations that happen. Gigantically larger is the amount of legitimate rapes, and also larger is the number of rapes that go unreported for a variety of reasons owing to rape culture. I mean, read a Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture That's not a phrase I'm making up. That's some real shit.

If I were to question the credibility of all rape allegations because of the (let's be generous and say 5%) few false allegations that get made then I'd be contributing to the victim-blaming, she-was-asking-for-it, her-fault-for-drinking mentality that basically teaches boys in this country that rape is OK.

So I have no real statistical reason to disbelieve this woman's allegations. And I have good moral reason not to disbelieve her either. If Winston is innocent then I hope the facts proving him so will come to light.

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10209347)

Why would she have done a rape kit at the time, if it was consensual?

Why would the police/whoever have needed to suppress her accusations if she wasn't saying this had been rape all along?

Why'd he lie about it all the way until the DNA match? Not usually the conduct of an innocent person.

Originally Posted by SeeingRed (Post 10211884)

This is enough to cost him the Heisman no doubt! His silence and his denial then change of story speaks its own dialog. Voters will def look at this very hard. Mante Teo's imaginary girlfriend last year was embarrassing enough Jameis may not even be considered a finalist

Originally Posted by Rudy is a Troll (Post 10211899)

When did he change his story? Did I miss that?

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10211912)

first he said he didn't know her then said it was consensual

Originally Posted by Rudy is a Troll (Post 10211914)

Link? Can't find it. Doubt it's true or it'd be looking much worse for him.

Originally Posted by Rudy is a Troll (Post 10211842)

Bottom line is Winston wasn't interested in OU. Bogus question of character concerns.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10211917)

hell I read it in one of these threads...

many people have referenced it.


first he said he didn't know the victim, then when dna came out he said the sex was concensual

Originally Posted by Rudy is a Troll (Post 10211947)

Well that info doesn't appear to exist. I think someone on here misinterpreted something. His story has been consistent as far as I can tell.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10211956)

are you saying he said he had sex with her right off the bat?

BRC Says otherwise

Originally Posted by Rudy is a Troll (Post 10211971)

I went back and read the post. I don't know where he go that info. Odd statement when nobody seemed to know about the case. I guess he lives around there? Reporting gossip? That may be relevant, but it's not anything that has been confirmed.

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 10211974)

You have to be in BRC's secret email club to get that information.