Or ever setting foot in a sports bar again.

No flames, that's your opinion. I just happen to believe that IF a good young QB prospect is available in round 1, and he belongs in that round, the Chiefs should draft him. Of course I didn't mean to draft one just to illustrate a change of mindset.

How dare you!??!? We have a HOF QB in Aaron Murray just sitting on the bench! He needs more weapons!!1!!!!!11!!1

Come on Pest....exaggerate much? HOF QB? How about a top prospect and career SEC passing yards leader? Murray is about as good of a prospect as there is coming out of college. Not like he is Tebow. However, should he be given the opportunity to show he can play at the NFL level and succeeds then yes.....the Chiefs SHOULD draft the BPA to improve the team as a whole. Draft position does not guarantee anything. History at the QB position alone proves that.

This is the kind of post that sets us back 30+ years of reaching the goal of Winning a Super Bowl.


You can have both Murray and first round QB draft pick prospect duke it out in preseason and make them earn the job & have two quality quarterbacks for the sake of having better quarterbacks and backups than we have had in 40 ****ing years. This isn't rocket science it's about developing and make them accountable for their play. Chiefs have always just given the job to a vet quarterback and then the back up is a vet and the young quarterbacks don't get the field like Murray. We would be stuck with retread backup like Chase Daniel if something happened to Murray. I want to see Murray given a shot but not give him the starting job unless he can beat out a top prospect from the draft.

Then we could have trade bait if we hit a home run with either of them.

You wouldn't be wasting any ones time letting the first rounder QB get some time behind Murray because make him hungry for the job. I tell ya we can do something in 2017 draft with trade options. But really we need draft first round draft pick quarterback to make me happy and I'd have two quarterbacks on the Chiefs to root for. Better your odds by drafting a high rounder with a prospect like Murray and and the end of preseason have to decide who to start would be a good problem to have.

Here's the trouble. The trouble is reconciling 'just draft a QB, they'll duke it out and maybe we'll hit a home run' and 'of course I don't mean take on just to say we took one.'

You're either accepting of gambling on lesser talent because you think the position is so ****ing important, or you're accepting of the scouts making determinations on who is the best player available squad wide.

I've never said 'a high value QB is always too risky' can you say you've never said 'the QB position is important enough to take a leap even if better players are on the board.'

I also don't see it working out without a new HC/OC.

Reid isn't just bad at play-calling he's as bad as Herm at making in-game decisions. And this isn't even getting into his hand in the "talent" we've added here...

That's another elephant in the room, if Smith, Murray, Bray, and Daniel are all irredeemably worthless, what are the odds that it's all down to individual character flaws.

I'm not ready to say they're all worthless.


Daniel seems like a solid b/u. I don't see him as more than that.

I like the upside of murray for what he is - a 5th round pick. I don't look at him as the future of the franchise. I think he's got the potential to be a solid b/u. Perhaps we get lucky and get more but I wouldn't expect it.

Bray was like getting a lottery ticket for your birthday...

My concern is skill in QB development.

If every employee from a particular college is a washout, I don't pressure the college to get better students, I recruit from a different college.

How is the most important position on the field never not a position of need?

No OL is more important than QB and you can never justify drafting one over a QB when your franchise has neglected the position for decades.

That dog wont hunt.

Again:

Wait on a "sure thing" like Luck or RGIII?

The position has not been addressed. It has NEVER been addressed under this regime.

We have one broke-dick, one back up, one maybe, and one body.

That is not a legitimate roster.

Agreed.

I don't understand why Reid hand picked Smith and thought he was "perfect" for Reid's offense. I couldn't disagree more.

On top of the offense not playing to his strengths we allowed the talent around him to erode.

Reid/Dorsey built this team like they expected to be here 10 years. We kept hearing about how our draft picks were projects, or would take a while to develop, all while ignoring huge needs in the present.

Part of me thinks Dorsey deserves 1 more year and part of me doesn't see the point if we're going with a new HC/direction anyway...

And yet that description would fit for the O line, WR's, or QB position...

Holy shit; are people REALLY going to use "the coach is bad so don't draft a QB" as a ****ing excuse?

Look, I know the bar for fan stupidity with this franchise reaches exciting new heights every season, but I did not expect new baselines to be established at CP of all places.