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stevieray 02-08-2016 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12071650)
Saved the TD at least. Well, until the next play.

There you go again.

BWillie 02-08-2016 05:59 PM

There ain't no Santy Clause, or Easter Bunny.

eDave 02-08-2016 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12072110)
There ain't no Santy Clause, or Easter Bunny.

Excellent contribution. Thank you.

Rasputin 02-08-2016 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12071585)
Should have been ejected.

Yep that's what I said when it happened. **** him **** the Broncos.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-08-2016 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 12071595)
Worked out perfectly.

Unlike the condom on the homeless man that knocked up your Mom.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-08-2016 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12071587)
As much as I hate how often the Broncos take PF penalties trying to hurt guys, it certainly has been effective this year. Sometimes it seems like the way to win in this league is by walking the line.

Perhaps the Chiefs are just too nice.

The refs need to let the players do some policing, too. If I was a Zebra, I would have told Brown that he gets one free roll on Talib.

Al Bundy 02-08-2016 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12072120)
Unlike the condom on the homeless man that knocked up your Mom.

Rep.

ClevelandBronco 02-08-2016 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12071851)
I've never thought about this before, but it's interesting that all penalties for the most part are paid in yardage and downs.

If you have a personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct, both of which affect player safety and/or the reputation of the sport, it seems like teams should have a choice. Take the penalty in yards or put the offending player in a penalty box for a while to cool down and mature.

What would be an appropriate penalty box time for for a run of the mill personal foul like the ones the Broncos commit ten times a game?

And would you measure it in plays or clock time or something else? It's a little complicated due to the nature of football having specialized offensive, defensive, and special teams units.

It seems like the penalties should be measured in either plays or drives. In this case, the Panthers could take a 1 yard penalty or they could put Talib in the penalty box for two offensive drives or 10 defensive plays or something like that.

Being a hockey fan, this question has occurred to me as well. I'd play around with removing the offending player for the duration of the current drive. One problem could be that you might create a culture of a couple of enforcers who are activated primarily to do damage.

Rain Man 02-08-2016 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 12072195)
Being a hockey fan, this question has occurred to me as well. I'd play around with removing the offending player for the duration of the current drive. One problem could be that you might create a culture of a couple of enforcers who are activated primarily to do damage.

That's the part that's hard to predict. You'd have to bring in your fourth-stringer specifically to commit a personal foul, which doesn't seem like a good idea.

Ha. Now that I think about it, here's something that would be funny. Let's borrow a little more from hockey. If there's a personal foul or unsportsmanlike, you get the yardage and you get one play shorthanded as the offender comes off the field and can't be replaced.

My only worry about these rules would be the fact that no one can touch the quarterback now, and if you stiffen the penalties Tom Brady wouldn't even bother wearing pads. He draws penalties by being touched.

ClevelandBronco 02-08-2016 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12071868)
This might be the weaseliest phrase I've ever seen on CP. Yet you keep repeating it.

I've seen equally (or almost) as weasely before ...

kcjoker 02-08-2016 06:58 PM

Maybe they shouldn't get ejected but for plays like that maybe make the player have to sit out 10 plays on their side of the ball.

stevieray 02-08-2016 06:58 PM

With the spotlight on concussions and player safety...being ejected from the game and forfeiting your game check would put an end to it.

Basically, they know and let lineman hold, they know and let WR and DB's interfere with each other, therefore giving them the freedom to pick and choose when flags get thrown. Ultimately, the game and the outcome is compromised.

Chief Pagan 02-08-2016 07:05 PM

I don't understand why the NFL doesn't review ejections during the game. For a serious foul that may warrant an ejection, the player gets "suspended" until the next full commercial break. During the commercial break, the refs can review the video and discuss it and: allow the player to return immediately; give a 15 minute suspension starting from when the foul occurred, or eject for the game. This way it doesn't slow the game down but the refs don't have to make an on-the-spot decision to do nothing (outside of the usual 15 yards) or eject for the entire game.

For the play in question it wouldn't help, but when the offensive is backed up on say the 2 yard line and they get a "15 yard" foul after an incompletion, it only backs them up one yard. Why don't they extend the first down maker so instead of being second and 11 from the 1, it is second and 25 from the one?

I don't get why if the offense gets a first down and a 15 yard penalty is flagged after the play, the offense is backed up but it is still 1 and ten and not 1 and 25.

ClevelandBronco 02-08-2016 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12072201)
That's the part that's hard to predict. You'd have to bring in your fourth-stringer specifically to commit a personal foul, which doesn't seem like a good idea.

Ha. Now that I think about it, here's something that would be funny. Let's borrow a little more from hockey. If there's a personal foul or unsportsmanlike, you get the yardage and you get one play shorthanded as the offender comes off the field and can't be replaced.

My only worry about these rules would be the fact that no one can touch the quarterback now, and if you stiffen the penalties Tom Brady wouldn't even bother wearing pads. He draws penalties by being touched.

I like the idea of making a team play short handed, but not for an entire drive. Maybe a series or until the offended team scores, whichever comes first.

cdcox 02-08-2016 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12071652)

Once he used the face mask to throw him over his hip it became a blatant and ejectable offense.


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