Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12693084)

Interesting question...how many teams got worse value from their QB this year considering $$ and production.

Obviously Osweiller. Can you think of many others?

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12693084)

Interesting question...how many teams got worse value from their QB this year considering $$ and production.

Obviously Osweiller. Can you think of many others?

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12692835)

http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

How can you argue with QBR when it has Matt Ryan, Tom Brady, Prescott, Rodgers, Brees as the top 5 QB's of 2016?

What measurement do you propose measuring a QB's efficiency by?

Because his sack rate is down 40%, completion percentage up 2%, Total TD's over 14.5 games (20) was near identical to the 16 games of 2015 (22).

Get your head out of your ass.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12693049)

Andy Reid is a hell of a football coach. Marty Schottenheimer was a hell of a football coach. Bottom line is come playoff time if you don't have an elite QB, you aren't doing jack shit.

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 12693350)

And Alex Smith is down there at #11. While that's okay, it's NOT GOOD ENOUGH! And that's why we should move on from Alex Smith. $17 million is way to much money to be paying the #11 ranked QB in the NFL.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12692827)

If people REALLY doubt Smith consider this...his pass yards are up from last year. His completion percentage is up from last year. Sack rate went down 40%. And this is considering his top wide receiver was a rookie and his best receiver (Maclin) was way off his game compared to 2015 (6 less TDs this year). But most significant was the lack of a run game this season, so for him to achieve all of the above despite an obvious step back in what was the strength of the offense in 2015 is a positive indication that his skills as a passer continues to improve. Sure the red zone % was awful, but it improved dramatically over the last third of the season.

1) Bring the run game back to being respectable
2) Continue to build chemistry with Tyreek in the offseason
3) Get Maclin back to 2015 form
4) Receivers need to improve catching ability (2nd worst in dropped passes this season)

This Offense will be one of the most efficient ones in 2017 and it's not as if there has to be radical changes. All the pieces are there.

Prediction: 28 TD's/ 10 INTs , 68% completion rate, 3800-4000 yards

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 12693350)

And Alex Smith is down there at #11. While that's okay, it's NOT GOOD ENOUGH! And that's why we should move on from Alex Smith. $17 million is way to much money to be paying the #11 ranked QB in the NFL.

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12693376)

No thanks, cut him....

* He commands no respect from the league beyond claims of being "a swell guy who doesn't cause problems for the league."
* He's not the kind of on-field who can command near-perfection because he can't back it up himself.
* A lot of those dropped passes weren't "on the money." Not that they all will ever be, not even Brady, Rodgers, and Manning can do that, but too many were just more difficult to catch than the situation deemed necessary.
* I don't think the players respect him, certainly not the WRs and RBs. His style of play (even if you blam Andy for calling the plays) get them killed.
* He's got worse downfield vision than Stevie Wonder.
* He's not worth the added cap space that not cutting him would cost us.
* And, not to sound like I support him or anything, he's just average enough to keep us out of a draft spot high enough to get Drew Lock (or some other promising QB) in the draft.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12693434)

All this talk about elite QB play that wins playoff Games when Ben played a horrible game on Sunday...

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12693492)

And yet on 3rd and 4 with a bummed ankle he scrambled outside the pocket and completed the game ending pass to Brown. It's not about stats it's about making plays.