looking at sample size, in December he is averaging 7.0 per carry. I know the sample is low, but considering out other running back have run for more thant 20 yards but once one 200 carries...

Williams and CEH = 208 runs
Long = 21 Yards
Big Play = 1

December Splits:
William= 4.0 Yards a carry
CEH= 3.8 Yards a carry
Gore= 7.3 Yard a carry

Gore = 29 Carries
Long = 51
Big Play = 1

Again the sample size is low, but the other running back have had 200+ carries and haven't shown the ability. Gore has had 29 carries so I think its atleast WORTH exploring

I agree with whoever posted earlier that one of our biggest issues with our running game is the lack of big run\homerun ability. So teams don't respect\fear our run game at all so they can sit in 2 high all game long.

This board has always been enamored with scrubs.

I just think Gore has the best vision, and our O-line is opening holes that should be 20+ yard rips at least 5+ times a game. I think Williams/CEH don't do very good running straight down hill and adjusting..

I think Gore out of all of them adjusts well with his feet and is able to burst.

I think the fact he adjusts fast (He has very quick feet) and his vision being better allows him to hit holes that are there with burst.

Vision + Quick Feet + Burst = Big play

We have been exactly here before...then they gave Jamaal a chance over the over-hyped Larry.... seems like that worked out okay....

Example:

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This run was designed to go to the right based on the blocking/Gore initial run direction. He makes a subtle but decisive cut back left when he sees that big ****ing hole.

Example 2:

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Look at him setup his blockers, hes not just blindly running into their backs. (Which I feel like Williams does all the time, CEH is a little better)

Example 3:
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Because of his vision and quick feet he will be able to feast by either following the hole, or bouncing it. Something I have not seen the other running back do alot of is bouncing a run to the outside when contain is not there or is manned by a single DB (WHICH THEY SHOULD WIN)

I agree and when I first saw Gore in preseason I posted on here I thought he ran very naturally and had good vision. Earlier in the season CEH ran like he was blind, missing holes and very slow. I realize some of that was probably getting use to the new O Line. Still CEH or Williams hasn't really shown that big play run\home run ability in the run game.

Gore has one long run in a game that was so far out of reach they could have called it at halftime.

Kind of hard to call him a home run threat with such a small, barely relevant sample size.

I've shown three examples above that show at least to me something the other two haven't shown in 200+ carries

1. The ability to bounce the play outside when its available. The other two at least so far have NOT bounced near enough.

2. Cutback ability, CEH does this better than Williams, but those back side gaping holes are there alot of the time. And it feels like to many times they are just running right into our guys backs.

3. Vision, which is needed to do 1&2.....

I'm not saying hes PERFECT. But what I am saying is it would be nice to give him 20 carries in a game to find out if he could do it. I honestly thing he could get in a rhythm and have a 20-130 day more consistently than CEH.

Find a few plays that show him blocking. Because the first time he gets Mahomes waylaid, all of his vision and that other stuff goes out the window.

This is no different than Pringle or better yet, Thompson.

He's a backup for a reason. This staff all has rings, they know what they are doing.

Chris Jones played DE this year......... Please never use this argument again, as it is a really bad argument.

That was a move of necessity, created by a lack of starting caliber talent at DE.

This is not that. Not even remotely the same situation.

Let's put it this way:

Putting Jones at DE was about putting the best players on the field. Jones isn't just one of the best linemen on the team, he's one of the best players on the team period and one of the best linemen in all of football.

Derrick Gore is a backup.

Again, not even in the same hemisphere.

It doesn't have to be for that argument to be a bad argument. Hence why I specifically pointed it out.

That argument "Coachs have the ring they know better" is a logical fallacy.

200+ Carries = 1 big play

29 carries = 1 big play

Maybe it was just "Luck", but considering the preseason and Giants game. I think its 100% a theory worth testing...

What is the excuse for Sorensen playing? :p