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Tribal Warfare 07-23-2023 09:25 PM

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Wallcrawler 07-23-2023 09:55 PM

Veach isn't going to fold on this one. Jones is too old to pull a Leveon Bell and sit out games all year, so I see Jones playing out his final year, and quite possibly we see some Honey Vadger-esque business decisions get made on Jones' part, and to a degree, rightfully so.

It's hard to get you huge money from another team if you're injured and the big 3-0 is hovering around your name while you're asking for the amount of money that he is. Maybe he misses a few games and refuses to play though being nicked up. He can't very well just back it down on the field though, or nobody will pony up his money.

I think that's why you won't see an 11 week holdout either, because when the Kansas City Chiefs are still going to be the 1 seed without him, his leverage swirls right down the bowl.

By the end of this season Jones will have 3 rings, just won back to back titles, and will be free to pursue max money and losing games for what remains of his career with another team.

I think he goes all out, wins another ring, and moves on next season.

Chieftain 07-23-2023 10:37 PM

That's what I don't get. Why wouldn't he accept say $25 million per which is far more than what Kelce makes? You retire as a Chief, win a few more rings and are still set for life.
This is nothing but greed from either the player or the agent or both.

As we learned from the Tyreek and OBJ sagas, Chiefs don't put up with this shit of a player holding the team hostage for monetary reasons.
Veach will do what's right for the team.

chiefzilla1501 07-23-2023 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17028207)
This is what I hate about the NFL. Players holding out while under contract. You signed a ****ing contract dude and are obligated to play as per the agreement of that contract. It's not as if the guy is a RB looking for his first big deal. He already got that first big deal money. At this point it's all about greed and maximizing profit of what you think you are worth. Andy didn't look too pleased today when asked the question of CJ's holdout.

That's the price you pay for not guaranteeing contracts. If the team can bail on the contract and not pay the final years, the player has that right too. It's not like baseball where the team is on the hook even if they cut him.

T-post Tom 07-23-2023 11:12 PM

Meanwhile, Florio is stirring up more shit at PFT. Not going to post the link... :shake: He seems to enjoy sowing the seeds of dissention. (Mahomes' & Kelce's salary before this.) The self-anointed arbiter of "fair" salary. F that guy. :#

Red Dawg 07-24-2023 04:04 AM

I said months ago he will want Donald money and we can't do that. He's as good as gone.

Red Dawg 07-24-2023 04:04 AM

Greedy as shit.

KobesPilot 07-24-2023 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17027233)
I bet you said the same thing about Hill.
Remember someone will check the threads and see if you are telling the truth.

But having a good DT is so much more crucial than a single good WR, as we have already seen that we can do without him, but with these new rules it favors offense, and it's starting to become who can rocket the ball downfield the quickest. The best way to combat this is by having a great defensive line.

If burrow, Allen and Rogers are allowed to just sit in the pocket all day and wait for a receiver to get open, then the playoffs will be ugly.

KobesPilot 07-24-2023 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17028294)
That's what I don't get. Why wouldn't he accept say $25 million per which is far more than what Kelce makes? You retire as a Chief, win a few more rings and are still set for life.
This is nothing but greed from either the player or the agent or both.

As we learned from the Tyreek and OBJ sagas, Chiefs don't put up with this shit of a player holding the team hostage for monetary reasons.
Veach will do what's right for the team.

Because he isn't a tight end nor is he Kelce, there is nothing wrong with a player wanting to get paid at their actual value. And it's pretty hard to accept 25 per year when other teams are waiting to throw a much better contract at you, and being the best DT, you know it's gonna happen like that. Honestly, what would you do in that situation? and no you wouldn't look at it like a fan would if you were.

Simply Red 07-24-2023 05:01 AM

I like coffee

Coogs 07-24-2023 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KobesPilot (Post 17028341)
But having a good DT is so much more crucial than a single good WR, as we have already seen that we can do without him, but with these new rules it favors offense, and it's starting to become who can rocket the ball downfield the quickest. The best way to combat this is by having a great defensive line.

If burrow, Allen and Rogers are allowed to just sit in the pocket all day and wait for a receiver to get open, then the playoffs will be ugly.

It won't be ugly. It might be 45-42. But it won't be ugly. And I'm thinking we will be the team with 45.

CupidStunt 07-24-2023 06:04 AM

IDK if it's been mentioned in this thread but I saw a comparison to Seymour's departure from NE. Somewhat interesting comparison to me, but Seymour was just a big cog in a well-oiled machine. Jones IS the machine for KC D. That's the difference. KC won't absorb CJ's loss like NE could and did.

I think they get it done and relatively soon. I think we end up having to pay closer to what Jones wants than what they want, which sucks a little, but he's worth it so it's hard to complain.

O.city 07-24-2023 06:12 AM

If they pay him what he wants and he continues to be an elite player, what’s the problem?

dannybcaitlyn 07-24-2023 06:40 AM

Deserves to paid! He’s the Mahomes of the defense.

Red Dawg 07-24-2023 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 17028375)
Deserves to paid! He’s the Mahomes of the defense.

He got paid and is still getting paid 20 mil for this season and nobody is Mahomes on anything. There is only one.


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