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Saulbadguy 11-20-2010 10:11 PM

Bought a 4 pack of Dark Truth and a six pack of Winter Lager (for tailgating tomorrow). Haven't tried Dark Truth yet...i'll probably save it for Thanksgiving.

irishjayhawk 11-20-2010 10:12 PM

Tonight: Chimay Blue Label. Yum.

irishjayhawk 11-20-2010 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7186366)
Bought a 4 pack of Dark Truth and a six pack of Winter Lager (for tailgating tomorrow). Haven't tried Dark Truth yet...i'll probably save it for Thanksgiving.

Is Winter Lager (if you've had one yet) as good as last year's?

Saulbadguy 11-20-2010 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishjayhawk (Post 7186368)
Is Winter Lager (if you've had one yet) as good as last year's?

Haven't had one yet...i'll be cracking one open at 9:00 AM tomorrow morning.

But, I doubt i'll notice any differences.

Chiefs Rool 11-20-2010 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7186359)
That's because it was nitrogen dispensed, of sorts. Boddington's comes in a nitro-can. There is liquid nitrogen in there.

oooohhhh

very nice

Miles 11-20-2010 11:32 PM

I have been enjoying Avery's fall seasonal - Old Jubilation lately.

KCUnited 11-26-2010 02:04 PM

4 pack of Blvd Dark Truth Stout. I'm hard as a nickel bag of jawbreakers drinking this.

NewChief 11-26-2010 02:07 PM

Where are the boulevard smokestack 4 packs being sold? I'm in Olathe today and want to take a few back to arkansas.

HonestChieffan 11-26-2010 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 7198928)
4 pack of Blvd Dark Truth Stout. I'm hard as a nickel bag of jawbreakers drinking this.




Good damn stuff. After I TV shop tomorrow Im stopping at Lucas to graze the beer aisles for new finds and old friends. After 27 years with the same TV I deserve to toast it away with good taste and style, right?

KCUnited 11-26-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 7198942)
Where are the boulevard smokestack 4 packs being sold? I'm in Olathe today and want to take a few back to arkansas.

Coleman Liquor corner of 119th & Blackbob. Called and verified they have Tank 7, Dark Truth, and 6th Glass 4-packs. They're open until 11 p.m. today.

NewChief 11-26-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 7198985)
Coleman Liquor corner of 119th & Blackbob. Called and verified they have Tank 7, Dark Truth, and 6th Glass 4-packs. They're open until 11 p.m. today.

Awesome. Thanks!

the Talking Can 11-26-2010 04:01 PM

well, after drinking numerous Great Divide Espresso Oak Aged Yeti Imperial Stouts (because it was a revelation) i finally moved on to some other stouts

rogue shakespeare stout - a good beer, but didn't wow me for some reason, thin body, probably still comparing things unfavorably to the yeti

stone imperial russian stout - very fine, enjoyed immensely

and now tonight for the ku game:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3426/...860a2856ea.jpg

left hand brewery 2009 oak aged imperial stout


on recommendation of my beer guy (also have a Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout as backup, i'm reading some very mixed reviews for the left hand, oh well)...he also mentioned a Mikkeller Chipotle Porter, anyone tried it?

hard to imagine liking it for more than a few drinks

MichaelH 11-26-2010 05:29 PM

I'm all for the microbrewed thing. I have consumed enough on this list to sink a small ship. But I sense the market is changing. The beers are beginning to taste like wine. Or something worse. At this moment I am enjoying a good 'ol Moosehead and feel beers like this will never die.

Reaper16 11-26-2010 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7199264)
well, after drinking numerous Great Divide Espresso Oak Aged Yeti Imperial Stouts (because it was a revelation) i finally moved on to some other stouts

rogue shakespeare stout - a good beer, but didn't wow me for some reason, thin body, probably still comparing things unfavorably to the yeti

stone imperial russian stout - very fine, enjoyed immensely

and now tonight for the ku game:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3426/...860a2856ea.jpg

left hand brewery 2009 oak aged imperial stout


on recommendation of my beer guy (also have a Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout as backup, i'm reading some very mixed reviews for the left hand, oh well)...he also mentioned a Mikkeller Chipotle Porter, anyone tried it?

hard to imagine liking it for more than a few drinks

You shouldn't compare Rogue Shakespeare Stout or Sam Smith Oatmeal Stout to Great Divide Yeti-family beers. There are stouts and then there are imperial stouts. Very different beasts with different merits.

Mikkeller's Chipotle Porter is actually very good. Easily the best beer brewed with chiles that I've ever had. It is very drinkable. The slow burn of the peppers works quite well with the chocolate flavors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelH (Post 7199444)
I'm all for the microbrewed thing. I have consumed enough on this list to sink a small ship. But I sense the market is changing. The beers are beginning to taste like wine. Or something worse. At this moment I am enjoying a good 'ol Moosehead and feel beers like this will never die.

I would like to have this discussion with you. The discussion about beers beginning to taste like wine. Could you elaborate on that?

RaidAM 11-26-2010 08:22 PM

I just don't like beer...

Reaper16 11-26-2010 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidAM (Post 7199774)
I just don't like beer...

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/q...TFOAriGold.gif

luv 11-26-2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidAM (Post 7199774)
I just don't like beer...

So, why post?

RaidAM 11-26-2010 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7199778)
So, why post?

This is a forum. I am allowed to make my opinion known, am I not?

luv 11-26-2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidAM (Post 7199782)
This is a forum. I am allowed to make my opinion known, am I not?

Oh yay, you're one of those.

RaidAM 11-26-2010 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7199785)
Oh yay, you're one of those.

Way to make a new member feel welcome...

luv 11-26-2010 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidAM (Post 7199789)
Way to make a new member feel welcome...

It's a forum. I'm allowed to question you, am I not?

the Talking Can 11-26-2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7199767)
You shouldn't compare Rogue Shakespeare Stout or Sam Smith Oatmeal Stout to Great Divide Yeti-family beers. There are stouts and then there are imperial stouts. Very different beasts with different merits.

Mikkeller's Chipotle Porter is actually very good. Easily the best beer brewed with chiles that I've ever had. It is very drinkable. The slow burn of the peppers works quite well with the chocolate flavors.

yeah, i figured i was being unfair to them...


re the left hand..it has a boozy, liquor-like aftertaste and mouthfeel...as i'm not a liquor drinker, i didn't like it at first...but about half way through it is growing on me...probably won't buy it again but i can see how a spirits drinker could dig it..

the Talking Can 11-26-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidAM (Post 7199789)
Way to make a new member feel welcome...

ROFL


yeah, we're known for making noobs feel welcome...

kstater 11-26-2010 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 7198942)
Where are the boulevard smokestack 4 packs being sold? I'm in Olathe today and want to take a few back to arkansas.

I so loaded up in KC before coming back down to Central Arkansas.

Rough list:

4X Tank 7 12oz
6X Odell 90 Shilling
1X Modus Hoperandi
1X Left Hand Milk Stout
6X SN Celebration 2010
6X Anchor Christmas(Most excellent BTW)
1X Racer 5
2X Hennepin
1X SN 30th Brewers Reserve
1X Cuvee Renee Lindeman's
1X Odell Hemp Hop Rye
1X Weihenstephaner Hefe
1X Trappists Rochefort 10
1X Bell Two Hearted Ale
1X Bellhaven Scottish Ale
1X Hop Czar
1X 8 Ball Stout
1X Avery Ellis Brown
1X Bell's Porter
1X Orval
1X Saranic Caramel Porter
1X Westmalle Dubbel
1X Lagunitas Little Sumpin Wild

And that's not including the many, many great beers I had while in KC. Off the top of my drunk head:
Lagunitas Hop Stoopid
Saison Dupont
Yeti RIS Chocolate Oak Aged(Meh. The cayenne was a bit over the top)
Hop Rod Rye
75th St IPA
75th St Summit IPA

irishjayhawk 11-26-2010 09:28 PM

Bear Republic's Big Bear Black Stout was, at first, meh but at finish, a solid unflavored stout. Red Rocket Ale though is good from 1st sip.

Zebedee DuBois 11-26-2010 09:32 PM

We entertain the extended family every Thanksgiving at our house. Not huge beer drinkers, and not familiar with non-major label beers, they have become accustomed to me having a selection of 'minor label' beers for them to sample.

This year:
Boulevard Wheat
Boulevard Pilsner <- this one seems to find it's way into my rotation more frequently
New Belgium 2 Below
He'Brew Messiah Bold
New Belgium 1554

I wouldn't call any of these superstars, but I think they are all solid B+ entries.

Pablo 11-26-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 7200021)
We entertain the extended family every Thanksgiving at our house. Not huge beer drinkers, and not familiar with non-major label beers, they have become accustomed to me having a selection of 'minor label' beers for them to sample.

This year:
Boulevard Wheat
Boulevard Pilsner <- this one seems to find it's way into my rotation more frequently
New Belgium 2 Below
He'Brew Messiah Bold
New Belgium 1554

I wouldn't call any of these superstars, but I think they are all solid B+ entries.

That's a pretty solid line up. I'll admit I don't drink much beer. I'm more of a liquor fella, but Blvd Pale Ale is a solid staple that I'll never tire of.

Reaper16 11-26-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 7200021)
We entertain the extended family every Thanksgiving at our house. Not huge beer drinkers, and not familiar with non-major label beers, they have become accustomed to me having a selection of 'minor label' beers for them to sample.

This year:
Boulevard Wheat
Boulevard Pilsner <- this one seems to find it's way into my rotation more frequently
New Belgium 2 Below
He'Brew Messiah Bold
New Belgium 1554

I wouldn't call any of these superstars, but I think they are all solid B+ entries.

My grades:
Bully Wheat - B
Bully Pilsner - B
New Belgium 2 Below - B-
NB 1554 - B-
He'Brew Messiah Bold - D (UGH, I hate this beer).

irishjayhawk 11-26-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7200028)
My grades:
Bully Wheat - B
Bully Pilsner - B
New Belgium 2 Below - B-
NB 1554 - B-
He'Brew Messiah Bold - D (UGH, I hate this beer).

Haven't had the bold but I agree with everything else.

If I quibbled, it'd be the Bully Pilsner would net a A-. It's a solid pilsner.

KC native 11-26-2010 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7200028)
My grades:
Bully Wheat - B
Bully Pilsner - B
New Belgium 2 Below - B-
NB 1554 - B-
He'Brew Messiah Bold - D (UGH, I hate this beer).

I feel almost exactly the same about the New Belgiums. I always thought they were slightly above average.

Reaper16 11-26-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishjayhawk (Post 7200047)
Haven't had the bold but I agree with everything else.

If I quibbled, it'd be the Bully Pilsner would net a A-. It's a solid pilsner.

I like Bully Pils a lot. 'B' isn't a bad grade from me, it's a good one. I'll drink the shit out of a 'B' beer.

I have my conception of what an A-range American Pilsner tastes like though: Sam Adams Noble Pils and especially Victory Prima Pils are the class of American Pilsners for me.

Zebedee DuBois 11-26-2010 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7200028)
My grades:

He'Brew Messiah Bold - D (UGH, I hate this beer).

Ya know? I have mixed feelings about Schmaltz brewery. I think the first thing I tasted from them was a Jewbelation Bar Mitsvah Ale, with 13 hops, 13 malts, and 13%abv. I thought it was 'complex' and very interesting. I've been trying to find anything in their line up, both HEbrew and Coney Island that measured up to that first impression, and all most have been left wanting. I thought Messiah Bold was the top of their nonseasonal heap.

(plus my brother in law has some jewish heritage, so I thought he might get a kick out of it)

[long way of saying that I won't argue for my B+, but it is no worse than a C]

Reaper16 11-26-2010 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 7200055)
I feel almost exactly the same about the New Belgiums. I always thought they were slightly above average.

Those are two of my highest-rated New Belgium six-pack beers, too. I have a pretty low opinion of them, though their Lips of Faith series has a number of solid-to-legit-good offerings.

Fish 11-26-2010 09:45 PM

So.... I had a tester 4 pack of Chimay earlier this week..

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1...1849068355.jpg

And I'm not really sure what to think of it. Very complex, with many flavors I couldn't really put my finger on. I want to say it was fruity, but I don't think that's a good description for it. Almost had a wine-like aftertaste. I think I was too shitfaced to really get a good impression of what I was drinking. But I did enjoy the hell out of it.

Anybody else have any impressions of this beer?

the Talking Can 11-26-2010 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7200058)
I like Bully Pils a lot. 'B' isn't a bad grade from me, it's a good one. I'll drink the shit out of a 'B' beer.

I have my conception of what an A-range American Pilsner tastes like though: Sam Adams Noble Pils and especially Victory Prima Pils are the class of American Pilsners for me.

have you had the trumer?

does it compare

Reaper16 11-26-2010 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 7200063)
Ya know? I have mixed feelings about Schmaltz brewery. I think the first thing I tasted from them was a Jewbelation Bar Mitsvah Ale, with 13 hops, 13 malts, and 13%abv. I thought it was 'complex' and very interesting. I've been trying to find anything in their line up, both HEbrew and Coney Island that measured up to that first impression, and all most have been left wanting. I thought Messiah Bold was the top of their nonseasonal heap.

(plus my brother in law has some jewish heritage, so I thought he might get a kick out of it)

[long way of saying that I won't argue for my B+, but it is no worse than a C]

To be fair, I may have had a lackluster bottle. I've never revisited Messiah Bold since my first horrible cardboard experience with it. I'm also not a Brown Ale fan to begin with, so all of my brown ale opinions need be taken with that particular grain of salt.

KC native 11-26-2010 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7200068)
So.... I had a tester 4 pack of Chimay earlier this week..

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1...1849068355.jpg

And I'm not really sure what to think of it. Very complex, with many flavors I couldn't really put my finger on. I want to say it was fruity, but I don't think that's a good description for it. Almost had a wine-like aftertaste. I think I was too shitfaced to really get a good impression of what I was drinking. But I did enjoy the hell out of it.

Anybody else have any impressions of this beer?

Chimay is the shit. It's probably the beer that really launched me into craft beer. I'm not as verbose as Reaper so I can't write flowery reviews but I love it.

Reaper16 11-26-2010 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7200069)
have you had the trumer?

does it compare

I haven't. I had to look it up, actually. I recognize the bottle, but didn't realize it was American. It seems to be well-regarded, so I'll definitely be on the lookout for this one.

Reaper16 11-26-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 7200072)
Chimay is the shit. It's probably the beer that really launched me into craft beer. I'm not as verbose as Reaper so I can't write flowery reviews but I love it.

Enjoyment is all you need.

the Talking Can 11-26-2010 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7200074)
I haven't. I had to look it up, actually. I recognize the bottle, but didn't realize it was American. It seems to be well-regarded, so I'll definitely be on the lookout for this one.

apparently it's an austrian brewery that opened up in cali....no distribution in the south though

Zebedee DuBois 11-26-2010 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7200071)
...I'm also not a Brown Ale fan to begin with, so all of my brown ale opinions need be taken with that particular grain of salt.

I think I hear ya here. I, also, have never had a brown ale that made me say 'wow'. I've had a few that were nice solid drinkers, but not an exceptional one.

irishjayhawk 11-26-2010 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7200058)
I like Bully Pils a lot. 'B' isn't a bad grade from me, it's a good one. I'll drink the shit out of a 'B' beer.

I have my conception of what an A-range American Pilsner tastes like though: Sam Adams Noble Pils and especially Victory Prima Pils are the class of American Pilsners for me.

How did I forget about Noble Pils?!?!

(you'll probably wonder how I drink that given it's hoppiness but it works for me)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7200064)
Those are two of my highest-rated New Belgium six-pack beers, too. I have a pretty low opinion of them, though their Lips of Faith series has a number of solid-to-legit-good offerings.

I'll have to give Lips of Faith another go but I didn't care for them much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7200068)
So.... I had a tester 4 pack of Chimay earlier this week..

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1...1849068355.jpg

And I'm not really sure what to think of it. Very complex, with many flavors I couldn't really put my finger on. I want to say it was fruity, but I don't think that's a good description for it. Almost had a wine-like aftertaste. I think I was too shitfaced to really get a good impression of what I was drinking. But I did enjoy the hell out of it.

Anybody else have any impressions of this beer?

I LOVE Chimay. Perhaps the most flavorful beer I've had.

Reaper16 11-26-2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7200082)
apparently it's an austrian brewery that opened up in cali....no distribution in the south though

RateBeer doesn't list MO or KS as distribution states, either. Hmmm.

Fish 11-26-2010 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 7200072)
Chimay is the shit. It's probably the beer that really launched me into craft beer. I'm not as verbose as Reaper so I can't write flowery reviews but I love it.

Well I'd never had it before, and it kinda kicked my ass in a good way. But I didn't know how to classify it or even accurately describe what I was drinking.

I liked the Red the best, but they were all pretty good....

Shag 11-27-2010 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7199264)
well, after drinking numerous Great Divide Espresso Oak Aged Yeti Imperial Stouts (because it was a revelation) i finally moved on to some other stouts

rogue shakespeare stout - a good beer, but didn't wow me for some reason, thin body, probably still comparing things unfavorably to the yeti

stone imperial russian stout - very fine, enjoyed immensely

and now tonight for the ku game:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3426/...860a2856ea.jpg

left hand brewery 2009 oak aged imperial stout


on recommendation of my beer guy (also have a Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout as backup, i'm reading some very mixed reviews for the left hand, oh well)...he also mentioned a Mikkeller Chipotle Porter, anyone tried it?

hard to imagine liking it for more than a few drinks

Try the Shakespeare apart from some of the other bigger beers before writing it off. A fantastic example of the stout style, IMHO. The Sam Smith is also a very tasty stout...

Shag 11-27-2010 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7199767)
Mikkeller's Chipotle Porter is actually very good. Easily the best beer brewed with chiles that I've ever had. It is very drinkable. The slow burn of the peppers works quite well with the chocolate flavors.

Have you had the Tyranena Benji's Chipotle Smoked Imperial Porter? I haven't had the Mikkeller, but I loved the Benji's...

Reaper16 11-27-2010 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shag (Post 7200534)
Have you had the Tyranena Benji's Chipotle Smoked Imperial Porter? I haven't had the Mikkeller, but I loved the Benji's...

Nope. I've never lived anywhere that Tyranena distributes to. They've teased MO for years, the ****s.

Over-Head 11-27-2010 01:29 AM

Rickards Red had some tonight

http://www.rickards.ca/en/Food/Pint%...e%20Plate.aspx

the Talking Can 11-27-2010 06:14 AM

http://draftmag.com/features/drafts-...s-of-the-year/

Quote:

From classic favorites to rule-bending experimentations, this year was an inspired one for beer. We sipped, quaffed and guzzled our way through bottles, barrels and kegs to pare down the best of the best from 2010.

Angel’s Share Grand Cru
The Lost Abbey
Wood-Aged Beer
Angel’s Share is one of the most sought-after beers around, but it got even more exclusive this year when co-founder Tomme Arthur opened up his entire barrel library to create a blend of vintages past. He carefully choreographed barrel-aged Angel’s Share from 2010, 2009, 2007 and 2006—the brew’s debut year—for a palate-coating sensation of flavors: Mature licorice, plum, molasses and chocolate layer above roasted bitterness for a deliciously syrupy swallow that finishes remarkably dry.

Ranger India Pale Ale
New Belgium Brewing Co.
American IPA
You may know this brewery best for its ubiquitous malt-driven beer, Fat Tire, but this year New Belgium released another brew that quickly became a crowd pleaser. Ranger India Pale Ale’s an übercitrusy, Cascades-packed drink that tastes like grapefruit in a glass. Bright, juicy hops and drying bitterness make this an exceptional example of the style, and its approachability and mass appeal make it worthy of the widespread praise it received. It’s undoubtedly one of the year’s must-haves.

Duvel
Duvel Moortgat
Belgian Golden Strong Ale
Delicate yet demanding of your respect, this classic 100-point brew defines the Belgian golden strong style: Peppery spice punctuates pear, orange and floral hop scents, while on the tongue, ripe pear and peppery yeast tango before sweet honey balances a prickly hop finish. It’s a classic, and with each passing year remains a shining example of how an evolving beer world still holds flawless tradition close to its heart.

Yorkshire Stingo
Samuel Smith’s Old Brewery
Old Ale
The only beer this year to receive a perfect, 100-point score from our panel, Yorkshire Stingo nails the BJCP’s guidelines for old ales at every step, and goes the extra mile by delivering complex malty surprises with each trip back to the glass. Every sip’s memorable as rich caramel and sherry flavors play alongside deep, woody oak notes and molasses threads. The complexity is masterful and might be the best thing to happen to your snifter all year.

Pursuit of Hoppiness
Grand Teton Brewing Co.
American Red Ale
A bold, bright mouthful of hops, Pursuit of Hoppiness is one of the standout brews leading the burgeoning American red ale movement, and this year it transitioned from limited-release status to year-round availability. Sticky caramel flavors balance brawny bitterness while piney, citrusy hops deliver on the beer’s name. Displaying a stunning balance between hops and malt, this beer’s new distribution earns it a regular place in any discerning beer fridge.

Saboteur
Odell Brewing Co.
Specialty Beer
Odell’s Single Serve Series is full of perennial favorites, but this year’s addition of Saboteur set a new benchmark for the brewery. The brewers age a traditional English brown ale in American oak barrels once used to house the brewery’s refined, cork-and-cage Woodcut series, then inject rowdy Brettanomyces yeast for a secondary fermentation. The result is a sophisticated blend of toasty brown ale notes, tart Brett, vanilla and rich, dark cherries. A subtle pineapple note beneath the funk tips this beer into the realm of excellence.

Monk’s Blood
21st Amendment Brewery
Belgian Dark Strong Ale
A collaborative effort that took a year to complete, Monk’s Blood is the brainchild of 21st Amendment owners Shaun O’Sullivan and Nico Freccia, chef and DRAFT contributor Sean Paxton, and the team at Belgium’s De Struise Brouwers. This brew packs in a laundry list of ingredients—dried mission figs, caramelized sugar syrup and American hops, to name a few—for a sugary-sweet profile that’s spiked with spicy cinnamon, dark fruits, vanilla and oaky
tannins and wraps up with a fun, sour finish. There’s simply nothing else like it.

Hop in the Dark
Deschutes Brewery
Black IPA
This year saw a tidal wave of bottled black IPAs, but none caught our attention like Hop in the Dark, a Cascadian dark ale. It may not be credited as the first of its kind, but after 22 attempts to perfect the recipe, it tops the list. Cascade, Citra and Centennial hops offer citrusy, piney hop flavors over a bed of lightly roasted, coffee-infused malts. It’s a blend of two worlds and a standard for those exploring this new style.

Tripel
Westmalle
Belgian Tripel
As DRAFT’s first-ever 100-point review, we just can’t help returning to this beer time and again. Westmalle embodies the tripel style with a thoughtful balance of sweet, fresh pear, lemon zest and a dash of peppery spice. Its flirtatious effervescence sweeps the mouth clean, while lingering lemony hops leave the mouth pining for more. Quaffable yet world-class, this beer displays a quiet elegance achieved over a few hundred years of monastic dedication, and for that, the beer’s a timeless favorite.

Happy Ending Imperial Stout
Sweetwater Brewing Co.
Russian Imperial Stout
Big beer continues to bubble up from the South, and this 9%-ABV, ink-black brew from ATL is the one worth noting. Lurking beneath a robust blanket of roast, chocolate and coffee, plums and raisins sink into the taste buds while a bright flash of citrus hops introduce a wave of bitterness that cleans the luscious, heavy flavors from the tongue. It’s bold, complex and unsung in the world of hyped-up stouts.

etc....

Reaper16 11-27-2010 11:12 AM

Nice list from Draft Magazine, with the exception of Ranger IPA.

ozarkchief 11-27-2010 01:26 PM

Hard to go wrong with Samuel Smith. I'll have to be on the lookout for the Yorkshire Stingo.

the Talking Can 11-27-2010 02:11 PM

thanks to a 4 day weekend and a KU/Arizona bball game tonight, I'm going to try the Happy Ending Imperial Stout..i didn't even know Sweetwater made it till reading the article...

http://id.worldclassbeverages.com/wp...dingBottle.jpg

HonestChieffan 11-27-2010 05:31 PM

Did the stop off at Lucas today. They didn't have any Erdinger but I got a few new ones. Trying Vat 7 now. I have to admit, its not bad at all. Not something I will long for but it is pretty nice.

For a guy who bought his first tv in 27 years its a nice way to get over buyers remorse.

KC native 11-27-2010 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7200922)
Nice list from Draft Magazine, with the exception of Ranger IPA.

Yes, **** ranger IPA. It is horrible.

KCUnited 11-28-2010 12:22 PM

Picked up a couple Moretti La Rossa Birra Doppio Malto's in a mix-a-match 6er at Red X today. Got the sauce going early and the ol lady is rolling the meatballs.

Also in the 6er is a couple Schlafly Coffee Stouts that I haven't tried yet.

And of course Miller High Life Tallboys for the crew.

Reaper16 11-28-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 7203059)
Picked up a couple Moretti La Rossa Birra Doppio Malto's in a mix-a-match 6er at Red X today. Got the sauce going early and the ol lady is rolling the meatballs.

Also in the 6er is a couple Schlafly Coffee Stouts that I haven't tried yet.

And of course Miller High Life Tallboys for the crew.

Red-X is one of my favorite places on Earth.

KCUnited 11-28-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7203173)
Red-X is one of my favorite places on Earth.

I'm good for 3 or 4 visits a week. Today I walked in wearing my Brandon Flowers jersey to Fleetwood Mac's - Dreams playing over the intercom, hi-5in' and head-nodding dudes in the lottery line. Place just brings me joy.

kstater 11-28-2010 01:29 PM

Just opened up Lindeman's Cuvee Rene Gueuze.

Fantastic. A whole lot drier than I expected.

Reaper16 11-28-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7203259)
Just opened up Lindeman's Cuvee Rene Gueuze.

Fantastic. A whole lot drier than I expected.

How much experience with Guezues do you have? I like Cuvee Rene --it's definitely Lindemann's best beer --but if you that that is fantastic, then I'd love to see how much you'd like Cantillon Classic Guezue or 3 Fontienen Oude Guezue.

kstater 11-28-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7203356)
How much experience with Guezues do you have? I like Cuvee Rene --it's definitely Lindemann's best beer --but if you that that is fantastic, then I'd love to see how much you'd like Cantillon Classic Guezue or 3 Fontienen Oude Guezue.

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Reaper16 11-28-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7203380)
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Hanssens Oude Guezue, Cantillon Classic Guezue, 3 Fontienen Oude Guezue. Next time you're in KC, look for those. The Cantillon earned the highest review score I've ever given a beer.

kstater 11-28-2010 01:58 PM

I'll keep an eye out.

kstater 11-28-2010 02:30 PM

Moving on to S/N's 30th Reserve. Combination of their PA Celebration and barleywine(oak aged). Good. The oak is pretty well hidden. Not noticeable at all, maybe slightly in the finish. The celebration is the most noticeable flavor. Really wanted to try their Ken and Fritz ale, but never could find a bottle.

NewChief 11-28-2010 03:52 PM

Picked up a 4 of Tank 7 and a 4 of Dark Truth while in KC. Really enjoying both, but I loooove the Dark Truth. Just a great sipping stout.

HonestChieffan 11-28-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 7204280)
Picked up a 4 of Tank 7 and a 4 of Dark Truth while in KC. Really enjoying both, but I loooove the Dark Truth. Just a great sipping stout.

Enjoying my first dark truth as I enjoy the game and simmer a marinara sauce. This is quite nice for a Domestic Stout.

irishjayhawk 11-28-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 7204280)
Picked up a 4 of Tank 7 and a 4 of Dark Truth while in KC. Really enjoying both, but I loooove the Dark Truth. Just a great sipping stout.

It was my favorite Boulevard Stout until I tried an aged Smokestack Imperial Stout.

irishjayhawk 11-28-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 7201849)
Yes, **** ranger IPA. It is horrible.

I approve this message.

Reaper16 11-28-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 7204968)
Enjoying my first dark truth as I enjoy the game and simmer a marinara sauce. This is quite nice for a Domestic Stout.

This post is strange to me. America is, by far, the best country when it comes to Imperial Stouts. It's also strange in a different way to associate Dark Truth with its American brethren when it has a Belgian yeast strain; Dark Truth's closest counterpart is De Struise's Black Albert.

HonestChieffan 11-28-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7205189)
This post is strange to me. America is, by far, the best country when it comes to Imperial Stouts. It's also strange in a different way to associate Dark Truth with its American brethren when it has a Belgian yeast strain; Dark Truth's closest counterpart is De Struise's Black Albert.

I defer to your experience and take the challenge to taste test. Its a bad way to live but I will sacrifice and do my research.

Shag 11-28-2010 05:16 PM

I'm obviously in the minority here, but I found Dark Truth to be average, at best. Probably didn't help that I drank it around the same time I had drank Darkness, Dark Lord, Parabola, and Speedway - it just can't compete with those (for me)...

Reaper16 11-28-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 7205594)
I'm obviously in the minority here, but I found Dark Truth to be average, at best. Probably didn't help that I drank it around the same time I had drank Darkness, Dark Lord, Parabola, and Speedway - it just can't compete with those (for me)...

It's a very different beer than those you mentioned. I think it is considerably better than Dark Lord, but again, they are very different beers. Dark Truth's yeast does lots of different stuff to it; it isn't nearly the malt monster that some Imperial Stouts are.

HonestChieffan 11-28-2010 05:38 PM

ok....lets do a list so I can shop....

I want your ten stouts that should be tasted, available in kc...

Reaper16 11-28-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 7205991)
ok....lets do a list so I can shop....

I want your ten stouts that should be tasted, available in kc...

Imperial Stouts? Available in KC, in no particular order:

Mikkeller Beer Geek Brunch Weasel
Founders Breakfast Stout
Founders Imperial Stout
Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout (available in March)
Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Stout
Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Vanilla Stout (super-limited quantities next month)
De Struise Black Albert
Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel Peche Mortel
Goose Island Night Stalker (maybe in April)
Boulevard Dark Truth Stout
Schlafly Reserve Bourbon Barrel-aged Imperial Stout
Odell Bourbon Barrel Stout
Bell's Expedition Stout
Great Divide Espresso Oak Aged Yeti
Great Divide Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti
North Coast Old Rasputin

KC doesn't get that many great Imperial Stouts. The best Midwest stouts don't get here, and the best coastal stouts don't get here.

HonestChieffan 11-28-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7206204)
Imperial Stouts? Available in KC, in no particular order:

Mikkeller Beer Geek Brunch Weasel
Founders Breakfast Stout
Founders Imperial Stout
Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout (available in March)
Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Stout
Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Vanilla Stout (super-limited quantities next month)
De Struise Black Albert
Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel Peche Mortel
Goose Island Night Stalker (maybe in April)
Boulevard Dark Truth Stout
Schlafly Reserve Bourbon Barrel-aged Imperial Stout
Odell Bourbon Barrel Stout
Bell's Expedition Stout
Great Divide Espresso Oak Aged Yeti
Great Divide Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti
North Coast Old Rasputin

KC doesn't get that many great Imperial Stouts. The best Midwest stouts don't get here, and the best coastal stouts don't get here.

you are good

irishjayhawk 11-29-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7206204)
Imperial Stouts? Available in KC, in no particular order:

Mikkeller Beer Geek Brunch Weasel
Founders Breakfast Stout
Founders Imperial Stout
Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout (available in March)
Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Stout
Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Vanilla Stout (super-limited quantities next month)
De Struise Black Albert
Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel Peche Mortel
Goose Island Night Stalker (maybe in April)
Boulevard Dark Truth Stout
Schlafly Reserve Bourbon Barrel-aged Imperial Stout
Odell Bourbon Barrel Stout
Bell's Expedition Stout
Great Divide Espresso Oak Aged Yeti
Great Divide Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti
North Coast Old Rasputin

KC doesn't get that many great Imperial Stouts. The best Midwest stouts don't get here, and the best coastal stouts don't get here.

If I was to make a stop this weekend, what store would have most of those? Gomers?

Reaper16 11-29-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk (Post 7211290)
If I was to make a stop this weekend, what store would have most of those? Gomers?

You should be able to get all but the GI Vanilla & Founders KBS at Lukas or Gomer's Lee's Summit.

irishjayhawk 11-29-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7211300)
You should be able to get all but the GI Vanilla & Founders KBS at Lukas or Gomer's Lee's Summit.

Man, the Lukas by my house (119th Metcalf) has like maybe 5 of those. Maybe.

irishjayhawk 11-29-2010 09:06 PM

Sidenote: I'm surprised you didn't include Avery's Mephistopheles.

NewChief 11-29-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk (Post 7211307)
Man, the Lukas by my house (119th Metcalf) has like maybe 5 of those. Maybe.

Isn't there a good liquor store down State Line around 119? (Brother-in-law used to live on Metcalf right in that area as well). Spent many a night at the Fox and Hound around there and eaten at the Winstead's quite a bit.

kstater 11-29-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 7211326)
Isn't there a good liquor store down State Line around 119? (Brother-in-law used to live on Metcalf right in that area as well).

State line and 135th. Bigger Lukas location.


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