I thought Tony was going to school him.

This is just my opinion. But, you always watch the young drivers, and you'll never get tired of NASCAR.

OP updated, including standings...will try to keep the top 15 posted

Call me silly, but I expect many of the top 12 to be different when the chase races get here

This.

Hmmm....wonder what a $100 bet on Trevor Bayne for the win would have gotten you in Vegas today.

He was part of the field at 30-1

The only bright part of today was that I can cash my parlay that the #33 finished in front of the #'s 16,31, and 48

No. 21 has impressive list of drivers fill its seat

Wood Brothers dominate the number's rich Cup history

June 12, 2009

Bill Elliott, in the No. 21 Ford, fielded by Wood Brothers Racing. That one line has it all: Legendary driver, legendary team -- and a legendary number.

The number has visited Victory Lane 90 times in Cup Series competition, a total shared among 17 drivers. No other car number has had so many different winners.

Arguably, no other car number has had so many great drivers behind the wheel. David Pearson, Cale Yarborough, Buddy Baker, A.J. Foyt, Tim Flock, Marvin Panch and Curtis Turner all drove the 21. Pearson had the most victories in the ride, 43, that total coming in 157 starts, another high for the 21.

Elliott is the latest of the greatest to take over the No. 21, albeit in a limited role. Both Elliott and the Wood Brothers compete part-time these days.

In 1969, Yarborough was in the No. 21 and won the track's first Cup event. Pearson had eight MIS wins in the 21 during the 1970s. Dale Jarrett drove the 21 in '91 at MIS, capturing his very first Cup win. And then there's Elliott, with seven MIS wins in his storied career, although none came driving the 21.

The Wood Brothers first fielded the No. 21 in 1953, with team founder Glen Wood in the seat.

"Somehow along the way we ended up with 21," said Glen's son Len, now a part-owner of the team. "The story goes that there was somebody from South Carolina who had 21 and it was really running fast, so we numbered our car 21 in hopes it would be fast as well.

http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/feat....21/index.html

One way to make Daytona 500 more exciting: Have Blake Griffin dunk basketball over Dale Earnhardt Jr's car.

having anything NBA with cars going 210 MPH is going to make it burning.

Welcome factortobe -- :D

Yeah, what she said, and stfu n00b.

Wish I had seen this earlier....I was cussing #99 all day long wondering if he was going to race like he was scared again like he did a few races last year.

But it looks like he ran a smart race....and avoided all the big crashes. I thought for sure he was going to drift to the front until the Rookie made the good move to take away the inside.

Good finish Carl.

Old Carl about pulled that one out today, but what a great story. I like this kid, hope they change their minds and let him run a full schedule.

Good job by the way on the thread. Nice set up.

Really was a decent race, outside of Michael Waltrip racing and Tony Stewart taking out half the field.

I believe NECK CAR was founded on this day in 1948

Truck race about to start on SPEED Channel. Cup regulars in tonights' race are Bowyer in the #2 Tide ride starting from the pole and Kyle Bush in the #18 Dollar General truck starting from the 3rd position.

I still don't have the stupid Speed channel. :mad:

oops, thought Speed was streaming it too......guess not

Eh, no big deal, I need to study tonight anyway. I have yet to see a truck race though, are they any good?

Study? noooooooooooooo!

What's going on with CA$HCAR?

Oh truebigdog, where are you???????

bugeater, i'll hook you up with live streaming

be right back!

Oh bugeater & truebigdog,

http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/5...ck-series.html

http://www.firstrowsports.eu/sport/motosport.html

Oh CAUTION ... CAUTION IS OUT !!!

THEY'RE STILL CRASHING!

Austin Dylan took out Cue Ball & a bunch of others

boring race at the front. Clint lead for the first 40ish laps, Kyle beat him out of the pits and has been out front since....30 or so to go.

another caution with 28 to go, but don't think anyone will get past Kyle on a restart, the Toyota just accelerates so much quicker

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh brendan gaughan breaks down the wall! LMAO

CAUTION, CAUTION IS OUT

is he alive?

did he drop the web

-- he was hit hard on the drivers side and smashed into the wall

aaaannnnnd ANOTHER caution......Clint is getting plenty of opportunities at the restart, but again I just think the Toyota has too much under the hood for any of the Chevys

bowyer' racing - neato

ron hornaday lol he cracks me up -=- don't mess with him --- he'll kill you ... LMAO

wow kyle's driving a rocket

The Kyle Show!

I think Kyle owns that truck...

Other than at the front it has been a fairly eventful race, but on the lead there has been only one pass and that was in the pits

8 cautions -- yikes

Damn NASCRAP is live streaming the race ---

http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/web...eed/index.html

It's going to be a great weekend -- On the four flat short tracks Phoenix (NH Richmond & Martsinville), there will certainly be a whole different skill set on display. Exciting racing.

I'm mostly sure the RCR drivers do very well here.

Man been a while since I have been on here, WTF happened to all my rep?

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/a...story-body.jpg

http://www.nascar.com/news/110225/tb...nix/index.html

Either milkman is a closet neckcar fan, or he was really bored last night.

I just saw the best WOO race ever at pike county speedway MS last night. The entire feature had three guys swapping for the lead the whole race. At the end its was the King who brought home the win over jason sides and then one of kasey kahnes drivers "cody" that rounded out the top 3. The old man still still has it! Them young guns can wheel for sure.

Great track

ESPN2 Phoenix - 5:30 p.m. ET Sat

Lineup
Bashas' Supermarkets 200 | Phoenix International Raceway
February 26, 2011 | Race 2 of 34

Pole Sitter: Kyle Busch sets new track record

POS CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR SPEED TIME BEHIND
1 18 Kyle Busch Toyota Interstate Batteries 134.298 26.806 Leader
2 60 Carl Edwards Ford Ford. Drive One. / Ford Mustang 133.328 27.001 -0.195
3 20 Joey Logano Toyota Sport Clips 133.136 27.040 -0.234
4 22 Brad Keselowski Dodge Discount Tire 132.631 27.143 -0.337
5 11 Brian Scott Toyota Shore Lodge 132.558 27.158 -0.352
6 30 Ryan Newman Chevrolet Dollar General 132.514 27.167 -0.361
7 16 Trevor Bayne Ford Roush Fenway Racing 132.402 27.190 -0.384
8 66 Steve Wallace Toyota 5-Hour Energy 131.863 27.301 -0.495
9 33 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Rheem / Menards 131.854 27.303 -0.497
10 32 Reed Sorenson Chevrolet Dollar General 131.805 27.313 -0.507
11 2 Elliott Sadler Chevrolet Fast Fixin' On the Go Sandwiches 131.459 27.385 -0.579
12 87 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet NEMCO Motorsports 131.186 27.442 -0.636
13 38 Jason Leffler Chevrolet Great Clips 130.985 27.484 -0.678
14 99 Ryan Truex* Toyota Pastrana Waltrip Racing 130.928 27.496 -0.690
15 6 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Ford Roush Fenway Racing 130.662 27.552 -0.746
16 31 Justin Allgaier Chevrolet Brandt / Monterey AgResources 130.652 27.554 -0.748
17 62 Michael Annett Toyota Pilot Flying J Coffee 129.983 27.696 -0.890
18 09 Kenny Wallace Toyota Family Farmers 129.870 27.720 -0.914
19 19 Mike Bliss Chevrolet TriStar Motorsports 129.683 27.760 -0.954
20 7 Danica Patrick Chevrolet GoDaddy.com 129.236 27.856 -1.050
21 01 Mike Wallace Chevrolet HalfOffDeals.com 129.180 27.868 -1.062
22 51 Jeremy Clements Chevrolet Mitchell Swaback Charities / RaceDaySponsor.com 129.176 27.869 -1.063
23 44 Charles Lewandoski* Chevrolet NortheastMarineElectronics.com 129.074 27.891 -1.085
24 39 Josh Wise Ford Stop Repair Bills.com 129.014 27.904 -1.098
25 88 Aric Almirola Chevrolet TaxSlayer.com 128.958 27.916 -1.110
26 40 Scott Wimmer Chevrolet Key Motorsports 128.875 27.934 -1.128
27 14 Eric McClure Chevrolet Hefty BlackOut / Reynolds 128.714 27.969 -1.163
28 89 Morgan Shepherd Chevrolet Victory in Jesus / Imperial Bedding Company 128.512 28.013 -1.207
29 70 Shelby Howard Chevrolet Foretravel Motorcoach 127.614 28.210 -1.404
30 15 Timmy Hill* Ford Fuel Doctor USA 127.528 28.229 -1.423
31 23 Robert Richardson Jr. Dodge North Texas Pipe 127.425 28.252 -1.446
32 81 Blake Koch* Dodge RizeUp.us 127.020 28.342 -1.536
33 25 Kelly Bires Ford RaceDaySponsor.com 126.680 28.418 -1.612
34 52 Daryl Harr Chevrolet WestWorld Computers 125.887 28.597 -1.791
35 28 Derrike Cope Chevrolet ThePrevention Plan.com 125.414 28.705 -1.899
36 27 Justin Marks Ford Baker Curb Racing 124.237 28.977 -2.171
37 24 Kevin Lepage Ford RaceDaySponsor.com 123.997 29.033 -2.227
38 141 Carl Long Ford Rick Ware Racing 123.839 29.070 -2.264
39 55 Brett Rowe Chevrolet Salvation Army / Imperial Bedding Company 122.125 29.478 -2.672
40 79 Jennifer Jo Cobb* Ford CarportEmpire.com - - -

Qualifying for tomorrow on Speed now. Let's see how many were sandbagging in practice.

There has been some melt downs. The same ass kissing idiots have been running rep threads and and begging for rep. DaFace should reset it every week as it has been funny watching people grovel for rep. Good to see you around again~

#18 & #11

Capacity 67,000

When looking at how well a driver does at Phoenix International Raceway, also consider their performance at New Hampshire, Martinsville & Richmond because they are very flat tracks.

Nascar has been running there since 1988. That track is a unique race track based shape based the fact the track has a curve between turns two and three.

Phoenix International Raceway started to have two cup dates in 2005. Jimmie Johnson has the most wins here with 4. Davey Allison, Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Kevin Harvick are tied 2nd with 2 wins here a each.

Track is more on the driver than the equipment here. It is an unusual tri-oval shape, more like a "D" shape. This is because the owner did not wish to alter the infield road course to accommodate a traditional NASCAR oval.

In 2005, the track hosted a second NASCAR race, replacing the spring race formerly held at Darlington Raceway, in South Carolina.

One of the only tracks designed for open wheel that usually always puts on a good show for NASCAR stock cars.

(Cite: Wikipedia.org)

updated in OP

BEST NASCAR Drivers at Phoenix International Raceway

Rank Driver Starts Best Finish Worst Finish Avg Start Avg Finish
1 Jimmie Johnson 14 1st 15th 11.0 4.9
2 Mark Martin 18 1st 19th 14.7 8.4
3 Jeff Burton 19 1st 25th 23.1 8.9
4 Jeff Gordon 19 1st 41st 8.5 10.0
5 Denny Hamlin 10 3rd 34th 11.4 11.6
6 Tony Stewart 17 1st 33rd 13.8 11.7
7 Carl Edwards 12 4th 42nd 12.7 12.8
8 Marcos Ambrose 4 11th 18th 18.0 13.5
9 Kurt Busch 15 1st 35th 14.3 13.5
10 Kyle Busch 11 1st 38th 14.5 13.9
11 Clint Bowyer 10 2nd 33rd 19.9 14.9
12 Kevin Harvick 15 1st 34th 18.7 15.0
13 Greg Biffle 13 2nd 41st 14.3 15.4
14 Martin Truex Jr 9 5th 43rd 12.0 15.7
15 Juan Pablo Montoya 7 5th 33rd 19.3 17.1
16 Joey Logano 3 10th 21st 21.3 17.3
17 Matt Kenseth 16 1st 42nd 21.6 18.2
18 Bobby Labonte 19 3rd 39th 23.1 18.3
19 Dale Earnhardt Jr 16 1st 43rd 14.4 18.8
20 David Reutimann 6 8th 32nd 19.5 18.8
21 AJ Allmendinger 4 13th 35th 13.8 19.8
22 Kasey Kahne 12 5th 40th 12.8 20.8
23 Jamie McMurray 14 3rd 40th 18.0 20.9
24 Sam Hornish Jr 6 9th 33rd 23.3 21.2
25 Ryan Newman 16 1st 43rd 11.4 21.3
26 Brian Vickers 12 5th 42nd 14.0 22.3
27 JJ Yeley 5 14th 39th 22.6 24.4
28 David Ragan 7 10th 41st 28.9 24.9
29 Paul Menard 7 21st 29th 22.1 25.0
30 Travis Kvapil 7 10th 40th 34.1 25.7
31 Ward Burton 10 12th 42nd 27.4 25.8
32 Aric Almirola 1 26th 26th 28.0 26.0
33 Michael Waltrip 15 2nd 42nd 29.3 26.4
34 Sterling Marlin 15 11th 40th 29.0 26.4
35 Brad Keselowski 2 16th 37th 24.0 26.5
36 Robby Gordon 15 7th 41st 29.1 26.6
37 Reed Sorenson 8 12th 42nd 27.8 26.8
38 Elliott Sadler 17 10th 41st 24.5 26.9
39 Joe Nemechek 18 10th 41st 21.6 27.2
40 Casey Mears 12 11th 42nd 19.0 27.3
41 Dave Blaney 15 7th 42nd 21.3 27.5
42 Regan Smith 4 23rd 35th 24.0 28.0
43 David Gilliland 8 15th 35th 31.9 28.0
44 Kyle Petty 14 7th 43rd 32.2 28.1
45 Bill Elliott 11 14th 38th 28.5 28.2
46 Scott Riggs 10 14th 42nd 22.7 30.0
47 Erik Darnell 1 31st 31st 39.0 31.0
48 Scott Speed 4 21st 40th 23.8 32.0
49 Dario Franchitti 1 32nd 32nd 21.0 32.0
50 Kevin Conway 1 33rd 33rd 42.0 33.0
51 Patrick Carpentier 2 33rd 33rd 30.5 33.0
52 Terry Cook 1 34th 34th 43.0 34.0
53 Max Papis 2 32nd 40th 28.5 36.0
54 Michael McDowell 3 34th 43rd 26.3 39.3
55 Jacques Villeneuve 1 41st 41st 27.0 41.0

*FYI: Driver position is everything at this track.

Gawd Damn, we have a race going!!!

Kyle is blocking like a crazy man LOL Carl almost had him

Kyle vs Carl

Turn on the race -- ESPN2!!

15 to go

Trevor Bayne hit the wall -- bummer - he was up in the top 10

Brad Kewelskjdfdjlkjf is also out of the race

CAUTION CAUTION IS OUT OF THE FINAL LAP LMAO

Kyle Wins!

Total DOMINATION !!!!!!


He has some fans, now. wow

99, 88

updated

OP format also changed to list last three and next three races with next one in bold. If you have a better idea for OP formatting, let me know.

Nah, it's cool that you're taking the time to do that.

3 p.m ET Sun FOX

Sprint Cup Series Subway Fresh Fit 500
Phoenix International Raceway
February 27, 2011
Race 2 of 36

Starting Lineup

Row Pos Car Driver Team Time Speed
1 1 99 Carl Edwards SUBWAY Ford 26.224 137.279
2 22 Kurt Busch Shell / Pennzoil Dodge 26.256 137.112
2 3 4 Kasey Kahne Red Bull Toyota 26.259 137.096
4 18 Kyle Busch Combos Toyota 26.281 136.981
3 5 78 Regan Smith Furniture Row Racing Chevrolet 26.283 136.971
6 20 Joey Logano The Home Depot Toyota 26.288 136.945
4 7 56 Martin Truex Jr. NAPA Auto Parts Toyota 26.314 136.809
8 1 Jamie McMurray Bass Pro Shops / Tracker Boats Chevrolet 26.321 136.773
5 9 2 Brad Keselowski Miller Lite Dodge 26.322 136.768
10 16 Greg Biffle 3M Ford 26.340 136.674
6 11 6 David Ragan UPS Ford 26.346 136.643
12 11 Denny Hamlin FedEx Freight Toyota 26.358 136.581
7 13 27 Paul Menard Vertis / Menards Chevrolet 26.362 136.560
14 39 Ryan Newman Tornados Chevrolet 26.382 136.457
8 15 43 A J Allmendinger Valvoline Ford 26.392 136.405
16 33 Clint Bowyer Cheerios / Hamburger Helper Chevrolet 26.407 136.327
9 17 29 Kevin Harvick Jimmy John's Chevrolet 26.448 136.116
18 14 Tony Stewart Office Depot / Mobil 1 Chevrolet 26.459 136.060
10 19 83 Brian Vickers Red Bull Toyota 26.471 135.998
20 24 Jeff Gordon Drive to End Hunger Chevrolet 26.515 135.772
11 21 47 Bobby Labonte Clorox Toyota 26.523 135.731
22 42 Juan Pablo Montoya Target Chevrolet 26.529 135.701
12 23 5 Mark Martin GoDaddy.com Chevrolet 26.547 135.609
24 17 Matt Kenseth Crown Royal Ford 26.553 135.578
13 25 31 Jeff Burton Caterpillar Chevrolet 26.556 135.563
26 00 David Reutimann Best Western Toyota 26.557 135.557
14 27 13 Casey Mears GEICO Toyota 26.563 135.527
28 48 Jimmie Johnson Lowe's / Kobalt Tools Chevrolet 26.569 135.496
15 29 9 Marcos Ambrose Stanley Ford 26.574 135.471
30 34 David Gilliland Taco Bell Ford 26.574 135.471
16 31 7 Robby Gordon Speed Energy / Bashas' Dodge 26.621 135.232
32 87 Joe Nemechek(i) NEMCO Motorsports Toyota 26.680 134.933
17 33 21 Trevor Bayne(i) Motorcraft / Quick Lane Ford 26.715 134.756
34 66 Michael McDowell HP Racing LLC Toyota 26.729 134.685
18 35 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. National Guard / AMP Energy Chevrolet 26.731 134.675
36 32 Mike Skinner(i) K1 Speed / Cerwin Vega Ford 26.811 134.273
19 37 60 Landon Cassill(i) Big Red Toyota 26.856 134.048
38 46 J J Yeley AAMCO Transmission / Ohsweken Speedway 26.857 134.043
20 39 09 Bill Elliott RYDEX Chevrolet 26.909 133.784
40 38 Travis Kvapil(i) Long John Silver's Ford 26.988 133.393
21 41 71 Andy Lally # Eco-Fuel Saver Chevrolet 27.288 131.926
42 37 Tony Raines Front Row Motorsports Ford Owner Points
22 43 36 Dave Blaney Accell Construction Chevrolet 26.996 133.353

Did Not Qualify: # 92 Brian Keselowski #.
Manufacturer Starting Lineup DNQs Manufacturer Starting Lineup DNQs
Chevrolet 17 0 Ford 11 0

Any live links?

Last weeks parlay wasn't crazy enough I guess, since I hit it so I went with a 5-way at 18-1.
To win I need Both Bush brothers to finish ahead of Hamlin and Bowyer to finish ahead of McMurray, Martin, and Logano.
I know betting on NASCAR is stupid, but I tend to have better than average luck with it and it often gives me a new guy to pull for or against. And I NEVER put more than $10 on a parlay.

Marcos tried to take out R. Gordon for the 2nd caution. Nice driving job by Robbie to not take out White Bread (though my parlay woldl have been helped had he taken Joey out).

Oh boy, Jr is the Pizza Hut fan favorite again! What a surprise!

Bayne, without Michael Waltrip racing taking out the field, runs out of talent.

Bayne in the wall; God must not want him to win this week.

I thought the same thing. Why not just call it the "Junior watch, sponsored by Pizza Hut"?

Kyle Busch is gonna kill someone this year. That's the second time this race that he's dove straight down on someone. The first time the other guy saw him and slowed up.

Kyle Busch wrecked Carl, almost looked like it was on purpose. Yep, Kyle Busch wrecked him, ruined Jeff Gordon, Mark Martin, Carl Edwards and Jeff Burton's car.

Gotta hand it to Edwards for not blowing his top on camera.

I do wish however NASCAR would look the other way when it comes to fist fights.

Crazy

88's best chance is if these wrecks keep happening and he's the only one left when the white flag flies. It'd still be iffy though.

Vickers' non-driving ass just took out half of the field......including the #33..........sonofabitch

Vickers got loose, can't tell if Waltrip Racing caused that one.

Kenseth turned Vickers.

what a mess. Who and how many were taken out

McMurray was clear of it if his dumb ass hadn't hit the brakes. It was his fault a good number of those cars are wadded up.

Kenseth caused that, ran out of talent out of turn 2.

The #17 was inside Vickers. He didn't turn him in any way, shape, or form.

Wrong, he turned him by bumping right out of the turn.

Look at the Fox-Mo view again. Kenseth didn't turn him.

You wear glasses?

Watched it, Kenseth drove in too hard, pushed him up against the wall and caused it.

I really don't give a care, that ****ing no-talent POS McMurray took out the only cars I really give a shit about.
On the bright side, I have other things I needed to do today anyway.

FYP.

1-800-BETS OFF

Kstater, I think he might be mad... Kenseth ran out of talent, ruined a bunch of cars and tried to deflect blame over the radio.