I really like what they have done with Kill Confirmed. Now you get more points for confirming your own tags than you do for getting the kill. You get 50 points towards your killstreaks for the kill, 100 for collecting the tag yourself, or if your teammate collects the tag you get 25 points towards your killstreak. I think you get 150 points for denying a kill.

EDIT: You get 25 points towards your killstreak for denying a teammates kill, and get 150 points for denying your own kill.

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Yeah I'm pretty sure Kill Confirmed will be my go-to gamemode in Black Ops 2. They really emphasized picking up tags, confirming a kill is as good as getting two kills with your gun.

I also love how you get points towards your killstreak when your teammates get a kill while your UAV, Counter UAV and Blackbirds are up. I think I'm going to love multiplayer in this game.

You really don't need Ghost in this game either. There is a piece of equipment called the Blackhat PDA that you can aim at enemy spy planes to take them down. That equipment will also let you hack enemy claymores, bouncing betties and turrets.

This is probably going to my go-to setup

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Can you play against bots?

Yeah the last video I posted was against bots. The multiplayer servers haven't been turned on yet.

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I might actually pick this up. I still have an unopened MW3 I got for Xmas last yr though. Not surfeit one is worse than the other etc

Black Ops 2 will be worth it. If you don't like the multiplayer you can always play zombies or go destroy bots in Combat Training. Then there is the campaign, but I haven't played a COD campaign since MW2.

I've taken a full year off from xbox. I hated MW3 so much I played it for a total of 10 hours or so. That being said, I think this one is going to make me a couch potato again.

Why did everyone hate mw3? I didnt get to play the mp enough to judge but the campaign was outstanding.

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I like the opening route this guy takes, it's probably going to be the one I'll use when I spawn on that side.

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Damn those guns sounds shitty. The sounds overall in the game sound shitty.

I can't speak for everyone but I hated it because it felt like a twitch fest with any and all strategy other than run and gun removed from the game. I played it for about 8-10 hours in mp and said "**** this" and promptly traded that shit in for BF3. :mad:

The guns in the first Black Ops sounded like toys. Infinity Ward has always had better sound than Treyarch.

Although the Warthog killstreak has some AMAZING sound.

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The Warthog is right at the beginning of this video, this clip doesn't do it justice though. It sounded much better in the IGN livestream the other day.

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What do you get with the hardened edition?

The Nuketown 2025 zombie map is the reason I bought it, but here is everything else you get.


Nuketown 2025 Bonus Map – Relive the close quarters chaos of this classic fan-favorite map re-imagined in a 1960s visionary depiction of the “model home of the future.”

Nuketown Zombies Bonus Map – Battle hordes of Zombies in this beloved 1960s nuclear neighborhood.

Collectible 2-Sided SteelBook® - Limited edition game case featuring exclusive artwork.

(2) Challenge Coins – Limited edition challenge coins that serve as your key to exclusive digital content.

Weapon Camo – Rank-up in style with an exclusive multiplayer weapon skin.

(2) Player Card Backgrounds – Liven up any killcam with two exclusive player card backgrounds, inspired by Nuketown 2025 and Zombies.

Official Call of Duty®: Black Ops II Soundtrack – A digital copy of composer Jack Wall’s epic in-game score with Theme by Trent Reznor.

Xbox LIVE® CLAW Avatar Prop – An exclusive avatar prop, deployable to a dashboard near you.

Xbox LIVE® Zombies Avatar Costume – Show off your pride with an avatar costume built exclusively for fans of the Call of Duty® undead.

Don't you get the Nuketown with just a preorder or is that only on Xbox?

You get Nuketown 2025 just for preordering the regular game but I think you have to buy the Hardened Edition or the Care Package Edition to get the Nuketown Zombies map.

Meh, guess I'll be skipping the Nuketown Zombie map. No way am I dropping $60 for the game, then an additional $50 for maps right off the bat. MW3 has taught me that lesson - luckily I didn't pre-purchase those maps. Bought the first 2 DLC's, but most of them are shit.

I'm really hoping that BO2 isn't like MW3 where it is strictly a run & gun game.

Season Pass isn't required to get the DLC, you can still buy the DLC as it comes out.

This most likely will be a run and gun game though. You can still camp, but you won't be able to hide from the radar by staying in the same place all game.

I'm not talking about camping, talking more about sniping. Sniping in MW3 was non-existant. They had 1, maybe 2 maps that you could legitimately snipe on. Which, now that I think about it, is probably going to be dead anyway with the change to "ghost" or whatever it's called in this one. If you show up on the radar as a sniper, what's the point of sniping?

Don't get me wrong, the "you have to be moving to not show up on the map" is cool and should prevent a lot of camping, but it's going to suck for snipers.

Yeah I kinda feel bad that Ghost works that way for the guys who play HC. Although I think that they had to do something about Ghost in Core.

Treyarch has always had better map design than Infinity Ward, there were sniping spots with good lines of sight on a lot of maps in the first Black Ops.

Yeah, so I'm holding out some hope on it - but with Ghost working that way, not sure that it's going to make much of a difference. Who knows....guess we'll find out tomorrow.

One issue for it in MW3 is that there is an endless # of ways to get into rooms, or areas, if you are sniping. Door, stairs, climbing a wall, etc. You are never fully protected as a sniper. I guess I just miss the good ole days of MW.

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Wow, you can join session in zombies now! Can't tell you how many times someone would time out and then we would have to end the game to pick him back up. Pretty cool, I wonder if there is host migration now in zombies....

I finally opened MW 3 from last years' X-mas. I can't beleive I used to play Campaigns in these games. Boring, and so repetitive. I'll probably hop online tonight; or figure out a way to play against bots toinight.

The only thing that I didn’t care for all that much in the MW/COD/BOs games etc were the perks and kill streaks.
I mean, I can understand it I suppose, but I’d rather have classes/roles / weapon slots etc like in BF3.
I REALLY liked that concept.


I think I have Black Ops 2 and NBA 2k13 on my radar for my 'winter' games.

Machinima is going to stream Black Ops 2 multiplayer, live, 24 hours a day, for the next few weeks. It starts in about 30 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/user/machinimalive

Yeah, there really needs to be a perk plus gun attachment that let's true snipers, snipe. Mybe slows movement by 5%, disables auto aim for quick sniping and reverts ghost to old ghost when silenced sniper is being used.

Here is the live stream. They are playing Black Ops 1 right now but will switch to Black Ops 2 in 15 minutes.

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COD is more of a lone wolf type game. I wanted to like BF3 but it was just too slow paced for me.

so it's been forever since I've played these; but do people play as a team on lke capture the flag (or whatever it's called) etc/ or is strictly everyman for himself regardless of game mode?

Pretty much every man for himself regardless of game mode.

You can find people who play like a team, but if you are expecting to join a random lobby with everyone cooperating you will be sorely disappointed.

You can go to www.hupitgaming.com to find people to play with who are really into teamwork.

I don't really like playing with a full team though, it is just too easy. Everybody just winds up fighting for kills if you play in a full party.

:hmmm:

can you spawn on a team mate that's alive if you've been killed?

No but they have a tactical insertion that lets you choose your spawn point.

Just preordered this off Amazon. I got free 2 day shipping with a free trial of prime.

Yeah, I played Black Ops with my friends so much I thought I'd get a leg up and order the maps in advance. The same people I used to play BO with never played MW3 so it's a good thing I didn't.

Anyway, I'm still deciding whether or not I'll even get this game.

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Picking this up tomorrow from Best Buy.

I picked it up at midnight, about 300 ppl in line, but it only took 35 minutes. Not bad.

I'm digging it so far, the maps are pretty sick and the graphics seem better.

One thing. I haven't seen a gun with any recoil what-so-ever. Won't take much skill...

the aircraft carrier map is awesome!

I'm only playing HC FFA so I'm getting the smaller maps, will jump into teams tomorrow.

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do they still have that BS where you can run around with those two shotgun things tha that looked like they were from 1700.?

I hated that.
I hate shoguns altogether though.

Anybody have this on PS3?

I don't think you can duel wield shotguns in this game.

I noticed the no recoil thing too.'

I just got it for 360.

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Black Ops 2 gun stats

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The MSMC is probably the best SMG in the game. The 3 hit kill range is better than a couple assault rifles.

The PDW SMG looks good as well, the 50 round clip definitely gives the MSMC a run for its money, although the reload speed is slow.

KnowMo, how is Zombies? Better than Blops1?

I haven't played it yet, I'm waiting for UPS to deliver it.

Currently taking a poop break.

Right now I'm on level 15 playing zombies solo on the Town map.

My buddy told me he was about to play 4 v 4 Zombies. WTF does that mean? Zombies + TDM?

It's a new zombie game mode called Grief. I don't know how it is played but there are two teams of 4 and whichever team survives the zombie horde the longest wins.

You can't shoot the other team but supposedly there are ways to make it more difficult for them.

Damn, that sounds dope.

**** me. Lasted 21 rounds.

Have you tried out the full Tranzit map yet?

About to now.

That 21 rounds was survival mode on the Town map.

ROFL

I've been sitting here waiting for this game to be delivered and just checked my delivery status on Amazon and it was delivered over two hours ago. Why the hell didn't they knock. :cuss:

Tranzit is a little different.

It'll take some getting used to.

The multiplayer doesn't feel like COD to me. I feel sluggish and the guns have no recoil. It also is hard for me to tell when I killed somebody, the XP for the kill doesn't pop at you like it used to. I dunno, maybe I'll get used to it.

ya this game is 100x better than MW3. The maps are awesome and it's running smooth, only a handful of games with noticeable lag.

ROFL

The only reason I'm excited about this game is cause that means more Xcal CoD videos. If anyone can convince me to buy a CoD game, it's him. My CoD playing style is based off his style.

Has El Presador posted any yet?

Had a game last night on MW3 that made me want to throw my controller into the TV. I outscored all my teammates and everbody on the opposing team by 2000 points and still lost in domination. I was literally the only one on my tv capping flags. I ended the game 25-27 because I would get killed a lot running across the map trying to get the B flag back.

I just don't understand how people play games and don't care whether the team wins or not. It's not even like they get a lot of kills by ignoring the objective. There are people who ignore it and still end up with less than 12 kills. How is that even possible? If I decided to ignore the objective in domination, I'd have at least 30-35 kills each game.

KDR is the ONLY stat that matters to people in COD. You didn't know that? lol

players would rather have a 1.5 KDR and never win a game in their lives then go negative.

BF3 rules from a teamwork perspective. there are times where you run into a bunch of randoms that don't really care about objectives, but for the most part everyone that plays the game has some sense of the game.

Im about to jump on MW3 to see how different the two really are.

I mean... the majority of games there are 3-5 (I play 9 man ground war games) other people working on the objective so for the most part, I don't care about the selfish players. But you will run into those types of games where all players care about is KDR every once in a while.

I just can't get into BF. Too slow and while it may have better teamwork overrall, you suffer more without a good team in BF than you do in CoD. I can carry a team if I need to in CoD, doubt that could ever happen in BF.

Haven't played COD online in quite some time, but I typically played Domination. I had to make sure I played it with buddies because of what you had posted. Idiots just want to get kills.

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You have the page you got that from other then image shack so I can get a bigger version?