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OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9268212)
It's official: Clark is a full-blown idiot.

In fairness, a bunch of you geniuses thought the Chiefs were going 10-6 or 11-5 this year - so why wouldn't Clark extend him?

He didn't see this coming, obviously.

BigBeauford 01-02-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9268218)
In fairness, a bunch of you geniuses thought the Chiefs were going 10-6 this year - so why wouldn't Clark extend him?

He didn't see this coming, obviously.

Nope, but Pioli did.

Reaper16 01-02-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9268205)
So last off-season he means?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9268207)
This past offseason, during the Romeo hire?

What the **** else could it mean? If he meant "this current offseason" it'd have been much clearer to have said Monday or Tuesday, seeing as this is only the 3rd day of the Chiefs' current offseason.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9268220)
What the **** else could it mean? If he meant "this current offseason" it'd have been much clearer to have said Monday or Tuesday, seeing as this is only the 3rd day of the Chiefs' current offseason.

LMAO

Ace Gunner 01-02-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9268161)
HC - Reid
OC - Shurmur
GM - Heckert

Nah, Reid will OC, Gibbs will remain DC. Oh, and;

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9259221)
my opinion is going to change as we move forward, but if I were to take a guess right now I'd pick Andy Reid.


ChiefMojo 01-02-2013 12:07 PM

Yes it makes a lot of sense but still doesn't make things any easier for fans. The pure fact it happened is the travesty and no wonder the Chiefs tried to sweep it under the rug once things went down hill fast. Clark now has to figure out a way to get rid of Pioli and not lose all that money now. In hindsight I think Clark, just like the fans expected us to be a good team this year, so the extension made sense at the time.

Bewbies 01-02-2013 12:07 PM

Chunt pissed away a shitload of cash with his boyfriend Pioli. LMAO

Chiefnj2 01-02-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9268220)
What the **** else could it mean? If he meant "this current offseason" it'd have been much clearer to have said Monday or Tuesday, seeing as this is only the 3rd day of the Chiefs' current offseason.

Some people were insisting the extension was after 2010.

Imon Yourside 01-02-2013 12:09 PM

That is one way overpaid janitor, ah well should raise the standard of living for janitors everywhere.

Agent V 01-02-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9268218)
In fairness, a bunch of you geniuses thought the Chiefs were going 10-6 this year - so why wouldn't Clark extend him?

He didn't see this coming, obviously.

I was gonna say...

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:09 PM

Thinks Pioli took bad advice regarding Haley hire.

Ace Gunner 01-02-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9268118)
The tea leaves seem to indicate that Reid is gonna be our HC pretty soon, and Pioli axed thereafter.

ROFL lost sonofabitch wendler

KC kid 01-02-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9268215)
Sounds ****in swell. Get it done today Clark!

What tea leaves am I missing?

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:10 PM

Thinks you have to go with Reid if he's legitimately interested.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:11 PM

Doesn't think Reid will just bring back all his Philly coaches.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9268227)
Some people were insisting the extension was after 2010.

I suggested this, but I sure as hell wasn't "insisting" anything.

But if Clark, apparently, extended Pioli after "Arrowhead Anxiety" was published, he's an extremely naive and/or stupid sonofabitch.

Mr. Laz 01-02-2013 12:12 PM

Just get in done so Reid has time to get whatever coaches he wants

That 8 million per for the HC in New Orleans is really going to change things

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:12 PM

Outside of Andy Reid, he's kinda hem-hawing.

BigMeatballDave 01-02-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9268118)
The tea leaves seem to indicate that Reid is gonna be our HC pretty soon, and Pioli axed thereafter.

95%?

Imon Yourside 01-02-2013 12:12 PM

Clark should have shitcanned him after the Manning debacle.

ChiefMojo 01-02-2013 12:12 PM

True Deez!

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:13 PM

Thinks the job is a good one because the AFCW is weak.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:13 PM

That was quick. Interview over.

lcarus 01-02-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 9268236)
What tea leaves am I missing?

Uh, hell if I know? All I know is the idea of hiring Andy Reid, firing Pioli's dumb ass, and drafting Geno Smith sounds like a great deal to me. I hope that happens.

penguinz 01-02-2013 12:13 PM

Thinks OnTheWarpath58 is a postwhore.

Chiefnj2 01-02-2013 12:14 PM

Oh noes - he doesn't think there is a clear cut QB in the draft to lead KC to gloryland

The Franchise 01-02-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 9268254)
Thinks OnTheWarpath58 is a postwhore.

He's relaying what's being said on the radio, you ****ing dipshit.

MGRS13 01-02-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9268237)
Thinks you have to go with Reid if he's legitimately interested.

I doubt he is intrested. he is just using Clark to leverage Arizona into giving him more money.

Mr. Laz 01-02-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9268241)
Doesn't think Reid will just bring back all his Philly coaches.

well his coaches were sort of in disarray there for awhile, so i don't know.


can't be too happy with his defensive coaches

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:15 PM

It all makes sense.

Pioli was extended in June or July, and now Clark is on the hook for potentially $20M or more.

I can understand why Clark is trying to whittle that down a bit.

chiefqueen 01-02-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9268251)
Thinks the job is a good one because the AFCW is weak.

IMO AFCW is impossible to win unless you're Denver until #18 retires.

penguinz 01-02-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9268260)
He's relaying what's being said on the radio, you ****ing dipshit.

I know what he is doing you moran.

Dayze 01-02-2013 12:15 PM

he's going to bring Hugh Douglas with him. We FINALLY get him boys!

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9268258)
Oh noes - he doesn't think there is a clear cut QB in the draft to lead KC to gloryland

How are those Seahawks doing? You want me to change your name to Seahawknj2? Or maybe just Hawknj2?

TEX 01-02-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9268267)
he's going to bring Hugh Douglas with him. We FINALLY get him boys!


:clap:

TEX 01-02-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9268267)
he's going to bring Hugh Douglas with him. We FINALLY get him boys!


ROFL :clap:

The Franchise 01-02-2013 12:17 PM

I wonder if Reid would bring in Shurmur as OC and Jauron as DC?

Chiefnj2 01-02-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9268268)
How are those Seahawks doing? You want me to change your name to Seahwaknj2? Or maybe just Hawknj2?

Apparently they've made it to something called the post-season. Being a 30 year Chief fan I wasn't sure it still existed, but a google search did in fact confirm that the NFL season does not end after 16 games. Who knew??

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:18 PM

And before someone makes the comment that we'd know about an extension because the contract as to be approved by the league...

It's 4 years later and we STILL don't know ANYTHING about Pioli's ORIGINAL contract.

It's been assumed 5 years, and assumed he's the highest paid GM.

But the details have never been reported, so it shouldn't be some mystery as to how this extension was kept under wraps.

MGRS13 01-02-2013 12:18 PM

None of the "big names" are coming here. If Clark was smart he would read the writing on the wall and relize his team is viewed as a joke. Once he deals with that he can go out and get a guy hungry to prove himself like Jay Gruden or Bruce Arians.

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-02-2013 12:18 PM

I still want Gus Bradley

DJ's left nut 01-02-2013 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9268282)
I still want Gus Bradley

I love Gus, but he's not on Clark's list.

He's just not what Hunt is looking for right now. It's a shame, I think Bradley will be a really good coach, but Clark's looking for stability right now and he's not going to take that chance on Bradley.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9268272)
Apparently they've made it to something called the post-season. Being a 30 year Chief fan I wasn't sure it still existed, but a google search did in fact confirm that the NFL season does not end after 16 games. Who knew??

At least you picked my 2nd favorite team.

Mr. Laz 01-02-2013 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 9268262)
I doubt he is intrested. he is just using Clark to leverage Arizona into giving him more money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 9268281)
None of the "big names" are coming here. If Clark was smart he would read the writing on the wall and relize his team is viewed as a joke. Once he deals with that he can go out and get a guy hungry to prove himself like Jay Gruden or Bruce Arians.

sarcasm or full blown whiny bitch?

lcarus 01-02-2013 12:21 PM

The fact that Pioli might get out of here with 20 million in his pocket from this franchise makes me ****ing SICK.

ChiefsCountry 01-02-2013 12:21 PM

Something to remember as well alot of the Chiefs big wigs on the business side have came from Philadelphia. Donovan and Alberino both came from Eagles business side. That is two big inside information on how Reid acts inside the organization at Hunt's hands already.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen (Post 9268265)
IMO AFCW is impossible to win unless you're Denver until #18 retires.

I remember back when John Elway was in his prime...nobody had a chance at the AFCW....oh wait.

The AFCW is impossible to steal with Manning in town. Or fall back-asswards into.

But it's not impossible to win. You have to actually have a good team to do it now, which is good for the level of play in KC.

ILChief 01-02-2013 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9268292)
The fact that Pioli might get out of here with 20 million in his pocket from this franchise makes me ****ing SICK.

I don't care how much he gets, I want him gone. It's not my money

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9268292)
The fact that Pioli might get out of here with 20 million in his pocket from this franchise makes me ****ing SICK.

It's not my money.

As long as he's gone, I don't care what he gets paid.

My preference would be that Clark would just man up, admit he made a mistake and fire the guy.

But I can understand trying to recoup some of that cash.

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-02-2013 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9268286)
I love Gus, but he's not on Clark's list.

He's just not what Hunt is looking for right now. It's a shame, I think Bradley will be a really good coach, but Clark's looking for stability right now and he's not going to take that chance on Bradley.

Here's to hoping for a shocker.

crossbow 01-02-2013 12:22 PM

I think Colonel Klink (Pioli) walks the plank as soon as Clark's lawyers decide the water is deep enough. Pioli may be all butt hurt by now and wanting more of Clark's cash on the way out. Clark isn't going to just hand over millions without a fight.

Is Clark responsible for the age discrimination lawsuits that Pioli caused?

Chiefnj2 01-02-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9268287)
At least you picked my 2nd favorite team.

And get this; your mind will be blown. IF you win that first playoff game, you keep playing until you lose!! I believe there are some cro-magnon cave drawings in France documenting the fact that the red faces from Missouri (their words/drawing not mine) at one time did in fact win a post season game circa the time the wheel was perfected.

rabblerouser 01-02-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9268232)
Thinks Pioli took bad advice regarding Haley hire.

No - Pioli made a mistake not listening to Haley on the QB sotuation and choosing to give the coach of the defending AFC West any better options at QB than Cassel, Palko, and Stanzi...

You can't pin Matt Cassel on Haley.

-King- 01-02-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen (Post 9268265)
IMO AFCW is impossible to win unless you're Denver until #18 retires.

What about the NFC West? Arizona will get bitch smacked by the Seahawks and 49ers every year.

MGRS13 01-02-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9268288)
sarcasm or full blown whiny bitch?

Why? You think an angent isnt going to play teams off of each other for more money? Or is it that for what ever reason you think coaches or players view the Chiefs as a good job?

BigBeauford 01-02-2013 12:24 PM

He's playing both sides, whoever has the deepest pockets wins

Imon Yourside 01-02-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9268292)
The fact that Pioli might get out of here with 20 million in his pocket from this franchise makes me ****ing SICK.

Nah make him clean toilets and wipe asses until he quits.

mcaj22 01-02-2013 12:25 PM

if we lose out on Andy Reid it's going to make us look really bad

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9268308)
What about the NFC West? Arizona will get bitch smacked by the Seahawks and 49ers every year.

At least Arizona actually won a division game this year.

Donger 01-02-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9268300)
I don't care how much he gets, I want him gone. It's not my money

Well, if you support the Chiefs with your money (tickets, merchandise, etc.), that's not entirely accurate.

ChiefRocka 01-02-2013 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9268292)
The fact that Pioli might get out of here with 20 million in his pocket from this franchise makes me ****ing SICK.

Not me, Hunt deserves that shit...and this year he's forced to spend. :clap:

-King- 01-02-2013 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9268320)
At least Arizona actually won a division game this year.

I'd still much rather coach in the AFC West than the NFC West.

Mr. Laz 01-02-2013 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 9268311)
Why? You think an angent isnt going to play teams off of each other for more money? Or is it that for what ever reason you think coaches or players view the Chiefs as a good job?

you declaring that no big name is ever coming to KC is the stuff of whiny bitchdom, not anything rationale.

Pioli,Weis,Crennel and Haley were all big or hot names

Hoover 01-02-2013 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9268319)
if we lose out on Andy Reid it's going to make us look really bad

why? at least we are trying.

I don't know if the whole "I can fix" Kolb argument is a good strategy for Reid if he wants the AZ job. How would you like it if Reid told Clark "I can fix Cassel?" I'd run for the hills.

Chiefnj2 01-02-2013 12:27 PM

Clark gave Pioli an extension months after Pioli had to fire his first head coach 2 1/2 years into his tenure and the plan to build the franchise focused on Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn being led by Brian Daboll. Ha, ha, ha, yeah he deserves to lose 20 mil out of pocket.

Be careful what you wish for with a more hands-on owner.

ILChief 01-02-2013 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9268322)
Well, if you support the Chiefs with your money (tickets, merchandise, etc.), that's not entirely accurate.

Haven't been to a home game since 08. Haven't spent more than $20 on merch since then either.

Hoover 01-02-2013 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9268328)
you declaring that no big name is ever coming to KC is the stuff of whiny bitchdom, not anything rationale.

Pioli,Weis,Crennel and Haley were all big or hot names

Pioli was a huge name when he came to town.

Mr. Laz 01-02-2013 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qbsacker93 (Post 9268313)
He's playing both sides, whoever has the deepest pockets wins

Arizona's Bidwell is supposed to be really cheap.

lcarus 01-02-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9268301)
It's not my money.

As long as he's gone, I don't care what he gets paid.

My preference would be that Clark would just man up, admit he made a mistake and fire the guy.

But I can understand trying to recoup some of that cash.

I agree that he just needs to be gone no matter what. But just saying...being that shitty at your job and making that kind of cash is sickening.

BigBeauford 01-02-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9268326)
I'd still much rather coach in the AFC West than the NFC West.

Exactly. Manning is 36, how long does he realistically have before the frankenstein screws keeping his head to his neck fall off? Phillip Rivers is on the backslide of his career, and Palmer might be done. If I were reid, this is THE golden opportunity to own a whole division for a decade. Niners has have a young talented team, the seahawks, the same, hell even the rams will actually compete every now and then. He should be at that age where a legacy matters to him.

MGRS13 01-02-2013 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9268328)
you declaring that no big name is ever coming to KC is the stuff of whiny bitchdom, not anything rationale.

Pioli,Weis,Crennel and Haley were all big or hot names

I will give you Pioli but not the others. Haley was so hot we hired him in what Feb? Weis and Crennei were "Hot" untill they both proved they couldn't be head coaches. None of those guys (at the time we hired them) were at the top of the list for every team looking for a head coach.

crossbow 01-02-2013 12:30 PM

Pioli was three time executive of the year when Clark hired him. Everyone in the NFL thought it was a brilliant move.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9268330)
why? at least we are trying.

I don't know if the whole "I can fix" Kolb argument is a good strategy for Reid if he wants the AZ job. How would you like it if Reid told Clark "I can fix Cassel?" I'd run for the hills.

In all fairness, Andy Reid shouldn't really have to "sell" himself to anyone.

He certainly doesn't have to claim to be able to "fix" a guy he thought so little of he traded.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9268331)
Clark gave Pioli an extension months after Pioli had to fire his first head coach 2 1/2 years into his tenure and the plan to build the franchise focused on Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn being led by Brian Daboll. Ha, ha, ha, yeah he deserves to lose 20 mil out of pocket.

Be careful what you wish for with a more hands-on owner.

What's the alternative? Wish that he returns to the hands-off approach that we already know doesn't work?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 12:31 PM

If he went to Arizona you'd have Reid, Harbaugh, Fischer, and Carroll coaching in that division. :eek:

Mr. Laz 01-02-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9268346)
If he went to Arizona you'd have Reid, Harbaugh, Fischer, and Carroll coaching in that division. :eek:

AFC West is a much easier win going forward

2 years and Manning is going and we don't have a single QB worth a shit in the division.

gotta figure that Rivers is gone by then as well ... one way or another.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9268335)
Arizona's Bidwell is supposed to be really cheap.

That was his reputation back in St. Louis but that changed once he moved to St. Louis and they've lost the "cheap" image since Michael Bidwell became team president back in 2006.

ILChief 01-02-2013 12:34 PM

He's getting the $$$, he has a contract. He either gets it and stays or gets it and gtfo

BigBeauford 01-02-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9268346)
If he went to Arizona you'd have Reid, Harbaugh, Fischer, and Carroll coaching in that division. :eek:

Then everyone would start calling the NFC West the "premiere" division in football.

Imon Yourside 01-02-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9268352)
AFC West is a much easier win going forward

2 years and Manning is going and we don't have a single QB worth a shit in the division.

gotta figure that Rivers is gone by then as well ... one way or another.

I hope not, I would like playing against him with a good team.


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