Scrabble is worthless too. It wasn't that they sent him down (they honestly should probably just cut his ass), it was that they didn't also cut Salas and Boggs.

I've thought we should release Salas for some time, but was willing to give Boggs a chance to get his shit straightened out down on the farm. At this point he can **** off and die.

What's the word on Motte?

Siegrist is on the 40 Man and they've used him as a reliever all year. He'd give the Cardinals another strikeout pitcher and he's a left-handed arm. If they wanted to keep Man Ass up they could.

Threw from 60 feet and felt good. I can't believe they're wasting valuable rehab time like this on such a long shot when his UCL is a time bomb.

Shows how desperate they are at the back of the pen.

Holy shit - defense falling apart now.

The Cardinals are trying to make me break something.

Nice job, ladies.

God I hate that roid sucking bug-eyed one who sucks the penis. :#

BRC's boy got us through the eighth. Now I actually feel comfortable about this again.

Jesus, these guys are annoying.

150 hitter with the 9th inning RBI. FML

Why did they pull Westbrook? He was cruising. Boggs and Salas have no business at the major league level right now. They need to go work out whatever they need in the minors.

FINALLY.

****.

Burned our bullpen with a 5 run lead. We are using Rosenthal way too much. No need to burn out his arm this early in his career and this year.

There is no help in the minors?

There's pretty much no options unless you want a guy like Gast up as a LOOGY/8th inning guy.

Jimmy needs to work on not making reading off the teleprompter quite so obvious. LMAO

Siegrist is on the 40 man. Why not give him a shot?

They did it during Westbrook's last start too. Matheny is absolutely loathe to use him in the 7th. I understand the reservation, but there is no way that Westbrook isn't a better option than anyone who isn't Mujica in the pen right now.

Kelly is not good
Rosenthal is trending up but is being overused
Boggs is a disaster
Salas is a disaster
Choate is just a LOOGY

I have no idea what to expect from Man Ass other than no walks.

They have absolutely no options unless it's Rosenthal-Mujica, which means you need your starters to go seven.

Because he isn't dominating Springfield to the extent that Gast has been dominating Memphis.

And yes, I do realize Springfield is in a hitter's league. But still. What Gast has been doing has been sick.

Gast is the next man up if there's an injury in the rotation, IMO. Plus, he's not on the 40 man. Releasing Salas would fix that, but you still need to cut him to do that.

Siegrist gives you a second lefty with swing-and-miss stuff.

FWIW, I wouldn't look at Siegrist's ERA. His BAA is below .200 and he has 21 Ks in 11IP. That's ****ing filth.

Martinez called up from Springfield and Boggs sent to Memphis.


http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...b3f70d67e.html

PBJ

And by Memphis, I hope you mean the ancient Egyptian city, not the one in Tennessee. :grr:

There is no way Larussa would have pulled Boggs from the closer role and sent him down as fast as Methany. :thumb:

Hate to burn a year of Martinez but we could make a run this year. Going to have to shore up the bullpen. Better than trading him at the break for a rental. Why not use a year?:hmmm:

I hadn't thought of that but yea, thats probably true.

I couldn't remember how long it took LaRussa to pull the plug on Franklin, so I looked it up. He was demoted from the closer role on April 19, 2011 and released on June 29. Appeared in 21 games.

So apparently Matheny is a faster learner, but still not fast enough.

I don't know that he is. There are some indications that Mo stepped in to make the demotion.

Izzy took a helluva lot longer than that to be shown the door.

I don't really care who did it, I'm just glad it's done.

Die, Boggs, die.

Izzy occasionally didn't completely shit his pants in the 9th inning. Boggs can't stop from soiling his drawers in the 9th, and now, any game.

Motte to have surgery Monday.

:sulk:

It's ****ing stupid they didn't perform the surgery over a month ago.

Meh. He'll be back for the start of the season next year.

yea it only took 7 years ans a 2.9 era and only 217 saves to be shown the door a real closer would never give up any runs

Dude are you seriously defending Izzy? We are talking about the last year of Izzy, not the good ole days.

Carlos Martinez up, presumably in the pen. Filthy stuff, wonder how he'll transition to the pen?

That HR by Holliday was the hardest hit ball I've seen from a Cardinal in a long, long time.

In July that thing was going 480+.

It is. It's also doubtful he'll be ready at the beginning of the next year. At best, he may be near effective strength towards the stretch drive.

If waino is just now getting back to normal, motte's not going to be back to full speed next year. Wasn't it motte that wanted to postpone?

Nice first inning for the rookie.

He won't look as impressive in the box score as he was in that inning. He had Betancourt absolutely fooled on that hook and he just stuck the bat out and got lucky. Aoki shook his head after one of the fastballs.

Absolutely amazing arm. What makes it all the better: we stole him out from under the Red Sox.

Hell of an inning for Man Ass.

Yet strange at the same time. Looked like a nuckle baller but isn't.

God knows we were due for some good news in the pitching department. :thumb:

With Salas warming up, I'd sure like an extra insurance run or four here. :grr:

A 1-2-3 inning for Salas! :eek:

It must be snowing in hell. :D

Miller 4-2

Lohse 2-1

I think we did OK.

It's a lot more than that. We saved 40 million in payroll and get the Brewers' first rounder this year.

And picked up a 1st rounder.:thumb:

I'll say it again. I absolutely love watching Miller pitch.

Just saw the highlight package. That thing might have gone 480 last night had the scoreboard not gotten in the way.

That ball was destroyed.

These are great days to be a Cardinal fan, my friends. We are jolly green giants walking the Earth, with guns! Well, at least our pitchers have guns.

Carpenter to the bullpen?

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colum...72ca99e4b.html

Sure, why not? At least we know he's not a ****ing head case like Boggs.

I like that idea. Maybe he can go for short periods. Having another bulldog late in games can do nothing but help us. If he can't help the team, I don't see Carp playing because he wants to pitch if it would hurt the team.

3 WS in 5 years. 2 WS Championships. Missed another WS last year by one game. Now we have all this young talent making it to Bush stadium. Very cool to be a fan.:thumb:

Does anyone know of any good stream sites? I live outside the regional area and never have access to the games.

Looks like Jay is out of his slump.

What the **** was Matheny thinking bringing back Salas' worthless ass for the 8th? Only that ****tard could give up consecutive hits to guys with a COMBINED OPS of .800.

No one knows why Matheny has a hard on for Salas. At least we pulled this one out.

I don't get it. He has nothing. His FB tops out at 90 and he can only throw it for a strike if it's belt high over the middle of the plate. Same with this crap changeup.

He'd be getting lit up in AA. No reason for him to waste a roster spot anymore.

Those no birds on the bat uniforms look like shit. We should never wear them again. Borders on unholy.:rolleyes:

http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/upl...hisk-broom.jpg

Suck it, Brewers.

I like this Martinez kid.

Don't look now but we have the best record in the NL, 9 games over .500, 2.5 games up in the division.

We have had good starting pitching. Hitting with RISP but beyond that we have sucked in some areas and many more below the norm that can be expected from this team. We can do better. :thumb:

What a sweep. I love a good laugher. Go Cards motha****a!!!!!

Absolutely! Actually met him in 2011 when Quad Cities was in South Bend; very nice, quiet kid, actually came up to my nephew & signed his glove, seemed excited about signing autographs. Oh yeah, and he can hit 100 mph, too.

Oh yeah, and Tyrell Jenkins pitched a complete game, 3 hit shutout for Peoria today. Finally, he'd been struggling early on, has the talent to be a #1.

I've never even heard of this guy. Anyone know anything about Scott McGregor?
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp...vkey=news_milb

Remember when our best option was PJ Walters when we needed an arm? This would be a guy that in past years would be up there as a prospect. Not running him down, but times have changed for the better competition wise.

I was looking at our opening day roster for 2011 recently: Look at that bullpen, just a reality check, it could be worse!


25-MAN ROSTER
Starting Lineup (*indicates left-handed batter **indicated switch-hitter)
1 SS Ryan Theriot
2 CF Colby Rasmus*
3 1B Albert Pujols
4 LF Matt Holliday
5 RF Lance Berkman**
6 3B David Freese
7 C Yadier Molina
8 2B Skip Schumaker*

Bench
C Gerald Laird
1B/OF Allen Craig BA#5
IF Daniel Descalso*
IF Tyler Greene
OF Jon Jay*

Starting Rotation
1 RHP Chris Carpenter
2 RHP Jake Westbrook
3 LHP Jaime Garcia
4 RHP Kyle Lohse
5 RHP Kyle McClellan

Bullpen
CL RHP Ryan Franklin
SU RHP Jason Motte
SU RHP Mitchell Boggs
MID LHP Trever Miller
MID RHP Bryan Augenstein
MID LHP Brian Tallet +
LR RHP Miguel Batista

Frazod, whats with all the empty seats at the Cubs game? Do they not go to night games?

The Blackhawks are playing tonight. I guess Chicago fans would rather watch a winner on TV than a loser in person.

You still torturing the Cub fans?

I'm not a big hockey fan, but I love those red home jersey's the hawks wear.

They're so horrible right now it's almost not any fun.

Almost.

:evil:

I wish I liked hockey. God knows I've tried. But AFAIC it's just soccer on ice.

Not looking forward to the Royals playing the Card's here soon.