Going with Crow in a high leverage situation and with a pennant race on the line, because "The sixth inning is Crow's inning and the seventh inning is Kelvin's inning." That is pretty mindboggling.

It's ****ing indefensible when Herrera hasn't pitched in 4 gawdamn days. He could have gone an inning and 2/3rds if necessary. It's September in a pennant race. Everyone except this bleeding reerun knows this. He should be fired.

At times I have defended him when he's done the right thing and the BB was up in arms about it/him.

At times I have been one of his biggest critics.

Today was it, he had Kelven up and throwing, no excuse not to go to your best when the game is on the line. Screw all of the talk, Herrera 7th, Davis 8th, Holland 9th BS Ned ..... The Central Division title is astake here and you are screwing around with the idea that it's always been this way!

4321 Fire his ass now Dayton

All Crow is, a situational pitcher or long games extra innings appearances. He is not Old Crow that once use to be a fair pitcher..... 4321 NED.

I was stunned at first but it didn't take me long to get pissed. We all knew that Crow is a disaster waiting to happen!:mad:

That's why the Brewers got rid of him. He had no ability to manage the bullpen.

Sorry but that's a Dayton Moore problem all the way. He has no business keeping that worthless POS on the roster to even allow Ned to put him in. It's astounding he was even brought back to the team a few weeks back.

Ned should have been replaced 2 years ago with Francona

, but Dayton.....

Francona just went 1-6 vs Detroit the last 10 days. What a stud that guy is!

Will the KC media roast him for these decisions

Yost should've been fired for his quotes today. Herrera should've been used. Not many games left

Well, Detroit's bats are starting to heat up, carrying 5 to 8 runs a game of late, not hard to beat any manager when they score runs like this.

Any Manager stating what he stated should, at the very least, be ROASTED by the Media. Given this is a soft ball league media market, they'll let him slide.

This shit is an abomination to Royals fans and the Team. What makes this completely unacceptable is that he doesn't believe what he did was wrong. If he goes with Herrera in the 6th and Kelvin gives up the dong to Nava, then so be it. We went with our best to preserve the lead and give ourselves a chance at the win. But, to throw caution to the wind with Crow, and to use some trite BS that "Crow is our guy in the 6th", is just the sort of mind blowing stupidity that should get your ass shown the door immediately. That sort of mismanagement just screams: Ned doesn't get it. Something most of us have known for a while.

Steven St. John blew a gasket on 810 this morning

I want someone interviewing him to make him justify Crow, when Kelvin hadn't been used since Sept 10th. I can't get past this. Not even one little bit.

Crow has consistently been awful with inherited runners. To think he was somehow going to get better in this pressure situation means he doesn't get it. Answer that Ned!

Yepper!:thumb:

Amazing that local morning sports radio show In Wichita, just this past week, said if Royals win the pennant, Yost would probably win manager of the year, if he hasnt earned it already! WOW, couldnt believe he said that! And I respect Bruce Haertl's baseball knowledge, but this is a crazy statement!

How can someone in his position be so out of touch with reality? He's supposed to have the experience and management abilities to make critical game time decisions. On my couch, some 500 miles from Kansas City, I saw Crow warming and thought, "that's probably not a good idea". What the hell has Crow done to prove he was the man to call up at that time?

I just don't get it. Screw that guy

Missed that but I'm looking forward to hearing Petro.

You have my support. Promote Eiland.

He's on a roll right now,I'm wondering if this is a replay,I love the part about Kelvin being at Denny's LMAO

He's going right now

I hope they podcasted SSJ.

Exactly. DM owns a great deal of responsibility for this.

Crowe had b2b decent outings last week. One in NY where he gave up a screaming one hopper for a DP and "magically" to "Dread" Yost all was well in Croweland.

He's been the one pitcher that Eiland fiddled with (throw with less velocity and pitches will move more. In Crowes case that movement seems to be from the bat to the bullpen) and the result was worse.

Yesterday, we wheeled Finnigan out there in 7-1 game. Why? Because Ned's YMCA philosophy of not hurting a youngsters confidence is too prevalent.

So we saw him pitch, and blow several batters away, and if there was ever a situation to use him FOR ONE ****ING OUT it was yesterday.

I said the KC media market is a bunch of pussies in another thread and was told this wasn't so. If it isn't, why isn't anyone putting him in his spot post game? We've had a good handful of dumb shit in the past two weeks.

Amen brother.... Jack's about the only one who's willing to call it like it is, IMO the others are too PC and too worried about getting kicked out of the pressers.

Haha I see I got banned from the game thread.

Ned won the game tonight? Come on haters.

Willingham has an 830OPS since joining the team. How is he not the DH every night for a team that can't score worth a shit?

Groin strain

Ned's brilliant slow play tonight was brilliant. The team should loosen up a little tomorrow. It'd be the perfect time to bring back Duffy and set the world right.

He's a broken down bum. Needs to retire

I think we're on to something.

BAN BUNDY FROM EVERY GAME THREAD GOING FORWARD

Were a game and a half up in the wild card

It should be 2 by the end of the night. Don't care, keep going after the division

Are we clearing out a spot in the royals HOF yet?

Seems like a good time to bump

He literally HAS to be fired.

They can't bring him back. He is loathed by the fan base. My guess is he resigns.

~2 million at the gate, first playoff game in 29 years... doubt it, but it would be a pleasant surprise. Can't fix stupid.

Literally done with this team until this queef is gone. He's ruined baseball for me.

I had tickets to Alds 3 and 4. My seats for Monday are 4th row behind the royals dugout. Purposefully didn't go tonight because I knew this could happen. To bring in a rookie who hasn't thrown in relief all year up 1 with 2 on in the 6th is mind numbing stupid. Top it off that he started a game 2 days earlier, and we have Herrera, Davis and holland fresh makes it the dumbest move I've seen an mlb manager make in my life. Texted my family/friends at the game my opinion before the bomb was hit. That decision in an mlb playoff game is 100% dumb ass. He should be fired for that alone, I don't care if we were 162-0 up until now. He deserves to be run out of town for tonight's decision.

Josh V wanted Ned to make the dumbass move with Ventura. We had the best relievers who have trained for that spot all season long. Wtf

we all got Yosted.......again

Ned can go sit on a blow torch.

Of course he should be fired but he won't because our GM is a spineless puss. God I hope the Braves GM spot is still open and they ask him

This was the last straw for me. You have Herrera and Davis sitting there in the pen, you have a guy in Shields who had been dealing and is a horse.....and you put in a rookie starter who is strictly a fastball, flyball pitcher with two men on. A guy who threw 70 pitches in a start two days ago. It's really indefensible.

Odds we will actually rid ourselves of Yost after this outing?

Has to be 50%.

Less than 1%.

Losing a close game like this makes me hate Yost even more!

Another example of Yost being stupid is not throwing Wade for another inning. He threw 7 pitches.

If we tie it up it'd be nice to have holland left.

Yep, Wade should have gone another inning.

We'll, now I wish I'd used those tickets. Unbelievable win

Not really. Taking a chance of leaving your best reliever is stupid to me. Use what you have. If the game goes to extras, so be it. But there would be no excuse to finish the game and Holland not getting out there. You use your closer top of the 9th in close games. Don't save him just in case there might be extra innings.

The point was that Davis threw 7 pitches. "Use what you have" means Davis again who frankly is the better player now

I think that the Royals could win the World Series, and I'd still be mad at Ned Yost. He does some of the dumbest shit. #yosted

The Royals players won in SPITE of Ned Yost's dumbass tonight.

pulling shields for ventura was dumb.

but IMO Yost made up for it. Stealing Dyson to 3rd was ballsy as hell.

Back home from the game. An unspeakable experience that I think I'll speak about a lot for the rest of my life.

Leave Ned alone. He's a good manager.

LOL

**** Ned

We will win in spite of him.

Believe it or not, I used to have this attitude with bochy.

LMAO

Ballsy? LOL

He made up for Jack shit.

King loves him some Yost.

Is he your dad or something?

LOL

Yost could have ****ed Ventura for life....

I said before the game that, if needed, I'd give Ventura the 6th inning. I have no issue with using him to start the 6th. I do have an issue with us not using Finnegan or Duffy for at least 1 out the way it worked out.

Moss, while better against lefties this year, still has a 3 year split line that looks like this:

.940 OPS against righties
.640 OPS against lefties

In a do or die you have to use a lefty there...

Hopefully Ned learns from that and Finnegan, thankfully, showed the moment isn't too big for him tonight

If there is ANY downside to the epic win it's his ass is was saved. The Royals won because of the grit and heart of the players on that team and not because of their idiot manager.

You still need to figure out who our best reliever is......

What about winning a close game like this?

King is totally wrong.

There was no reason not to go Wade 8th and 9th

Then Holland 10th and 11th

There was certainly no reason to not use Holland again despite him loading the bases.

Typical Yost and the bullpen.

I had the game mapped out better than he did before the game in the game thread...he sorta, kinda listened to me but I never would've brought Ventura in with runners on, I'd have given him his entire inning from the start.

The way I mapped it before the game if Shields were to be pulled after 5 was: (in a tie game scenario)

Ventura 6 (maybe 7 as well depending on how the 6 went)
Herrera 7 (maybe 8 depending on how well 7 went)
Davis for 2
Holland for 2
Guthrie for GOOD LUCK!

with Finnegan/Duffy as the LOOGY if needed (basically, for Brandon Moss)

ESPN and MLBNetwork both unloaded both barrels into Yost last night after the game. It was a thing of beauty. I still hold out hope that if DM bolts Yost goes with him. Gardenhire and Guillen would both be a huge upgrades IMO.... although I think Ron is the better fit

Barnyard ned

This is one of the dumbest things in sports. You can't "ruin" athlete, gmafb. Every player succeeds and fails in sports, the better ones succeed a bit more often. But there are no examples of "crushing" a player

Still hatin' on Ned?

Exactly. The kid will be fine. Everyone was super supportive in the dugout, too.

Yes, that dumb **** about cost is the game with his bullshit decisions. We won in spite of him.

You don't bring in a rookie starter who just threw 2 days ago into an inning with 2 on and 0 outs to face a guy who has already gone yard. Why? You saw why.

And then to make it worse you go to Herrera who should have been brought in to begin with, after you give up 4 runs and let him pitch the next 2 innings.

I won't even get into the BS he tried with Butler in the 1st.

Disagree. When Dyson doesn't steal we always hear "it's Dyson's call". So when he does go same applies. This is what gets told to me every time I bitch for Yost not sending Dyson earlier at times.

I approve of good hatin'. Always.

"I gave up a HR. I can never play again!"

Lol @ such nonsense

As bad as a decision as it was to bring Ventura in at least that had a half ass chance of still working out somehow. I can't believe a real MLB manager came up with that Butler getting intentionally in a run down shit :facepalm: The only way that works if the A's committed an error.

Yes, clearly.