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Go **** yourself, Neil Smith.

Good first impression. Confident, well-spoken, humble, and aware of some team history/values.

Hopefully he'll do to Peyton Manning and Phyllis Rivers what he did to the dummy on Sports Science.

ROFL yep-that is what happens when you sell your soul to the Cheatin' Donks.

:clap: That impact rating would be like getting hit by a bull.

Yea, I see why the Chiefs did it, With the absence of a 2nd round pick, they couldn't risk it...

Best case scenario would to have traded back into the second with someone but as we all know, that's not always possible either. I think his only possible downside will be the injuries, if he is over that then it will probably be a good pick overall in hindsight

If the Chiefs had traded down to the second, Philly would have taken Ford instead of the inferior pass rusher that they took.

didn't realize that

Sell his soul? Let me see to play for a coach that can win when it matters or play for the life loser marty?

He was smart. True fans were drinking the mediocrity kool aid in the 90s.

He won a ring and Marty still is a loser.

Then it comes down to what KC really wanted out of the first round.

Odds are they don't find anyone to trade into the top 10 of the second round unless they take the shaft on value, which you would do if they were looking for a QB, WR or OG. And there probably wasn't anyway to justify taking a bottom 12-32 pick in the second either, which mean they would miss out on the rest of the WRs, the top three remaining TEs or the remaining defensive line prospects.

Dee Ford was the last man standing on their board... If JFF or Teddy would've been on the table they'd have moved on either one of them once they went past Dallas.

Yep Philly thought they had him at 26, and Atlanta tried to move back in to the 1st round to draft him but the trade compensation teams were asking for was too rich for their blood- rumored to be at least 2 2nd round picks.

I dont get why everyone is upset at pick they took BPA! Like Dorsey said best when you draft on need only thats when u lose! Tyson Jackson need Jon Baldwin need. Example of drafting BPA Jamaal Charles Larry Johnson for a stint. Justin Houston etc... This was a good pick and it will make us better period

LJ was a perceived need. Had they gone BPA, Troy Polamalu would be a Chief.

But yeah, your point still stands.

So I wonder if they are going to transition Ford or Houston to the right side.

Nope not at that time priest was still in his prime lol remember the take the diapers off statement by dick vermeil because lj was pouting he wasnt getting any pt. I mean it was a need but it was more of a luxury because priest had his contract situation coming up!

This place is funny sometimes. They always harp on taking BPA. Take a QB even if you have a starter in place! But when we do that, they insist on drafting for need.

Unless you are going all in for a 2 year window (e.g. Denver, New England) you always draft BPA.

When we drafted LJ, Priest was still rehabbing that hip injury that put him out for the season. If KC knew Priest was going to be okay and available, theres no way they draft LJ with their first pick.

Yep.

Shit man, I don't remember you being such a negative naybob, this guy has an elite first step and great lean and rip, we NEEDED a pass rusher, you can never have enough pass rushers.

Just look at how we fell apart when Houston went down, how the pressure suffered when Hali was gimped up... this guy was a solid get, IMO.

I'm really not. Just sick of not drafting a first round QB...EVER since I've been watching

Like why do we need a freaking qb first round why?????????? We have a freaking qb thats 30 years old and came off the best freaking chiefs qb performance in a playoff game in last 15 years lol

Not to mention he got better and better as the season went on! Also did you forget that if tyler bray came out in this draft and didnt make dumb comments and made all the correct interviews answers he would be a top 3 qb in this draft!

Actually, in the history of the Chiefs franchise.

I really like Bray. But him paning out is slimmer than drafting Tom Brady.

What does it matter really? Stop focusing on stuff that doesn't matter. Focus on the positives of this franchise. Alex Smith has proven he's more than capable of winning games and playoff games. Oh yea, we also just picked up a pretty sweet pass rusher.
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I just dont get it! I really dont!! Alex did a good job and he is only gonna get better and more comfortable in the system this year. Ok hypothetically we draft manziel or bridgewater and let Alex Smith go and he goes to playoffs with another team and we end up with a matt cassel then you guys would cry omg how dumb the chiefs to let alex smith go blah blah blah! If it aint broke dont fix it and if it aint over 30 then why draft a replacement imo!

LMAO ya just don't get it. It's a cycle. We won't win a playoff game and 5 more years will pass and we will trade for some teams QB in hopes we can win a super bowl

I remember when people said Matt Cassel could win playoff games here.

Or Trent Green.

Or Grbac. Gannon. Steve mother****ing Bono.

Take your pick.

Perhaps, but it won't be Alex Smiths fault.

What was the biggest problem the Chiefs had in the playoffs and latter half of the season? Defense. Was it a coincidence they decided to go with an impact defensive position?
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I like the symmetry our QB corp has, but that's just me, many disagree.

Hang in there though, Reid has always had a stiffy for QB's, we'll be getting a first rounder one of these days sooner than later... Bray could wash out (hope not), Daniel could not show enough growth etc.

Injuries were the issue, and we chose an injury prone defensive player.

Look I love taking pass rushers. Just not injury prone ones.

Sorry ya'll, but I'd have to take Andys decisions on QB's as a better decision than our own.

If there's one thing Andy ****ing Reid knows a lot about, it's QB's.

FYP.

Honestly there no guarantee you draft a qb and they become a franschise player for your franchise!

To be honest most qbs were carried by their defense all the way to superbowl. Eli,Big Ben,Tom Brady for a while in first dynasty,Manning even though he was a stat sheet stuff in reg season, Wilson,Bres with the Bounty Defense, Flacco and list goes on and on. If you dont have a defense that can get after the passer you just wont win. You may get a offensive team to win once every 8-10 years

If you dont like one dimensional players you better look up Von Miller Draft analysis and also Aldon Smiths. I bet you were one of those that would have loved to draft them

Agreed.

I also feel the same about Dorsey and WR's.

Is there an echo in here?

I think we'll target a QB in round 4.

Meh, a lot of great pass rushers people consider one dimensional.

Also on top of that we have the elite QB developer in Andy freaking reid and people are crying about not drafting a qb lol its funny. I guess everyone would have been happy with Lee and his knee injury that everyone red flagged. What about this excuse why would you draft a pass rusher that wont start over hali or houston? Why draft a qb that wont start over alex smith? Better yet why draft Dennard when he wont start over flowers,smith, or cooper. Only position to be honest we could have drafted for yesterday in 1st was o line and if we did that people would have canceled season tickets.

Why? It's a waste with Bray and Daniel. How many 4th round QBs win Super Bowls?

Waste of a ****ing pick.

If you're not going to take a guy in the 1st or early 2nd, don't ****ing bother - especially when we only have 5 more picks to work with.

We just spent #23 on a pretty substantial risk, no sense in spending a late pick on a one-in-a-million shot.

People can see why they did it, but it all goes back to the fans wanting a qb of their own finally, so every single draft until they do it, its going to be the same.

You cannot blame fans for wanting their own freshly drafted qb, not someone from another team that got replaced or there is someone that was better then them there.

We did his name is Brodie Croyle LOLOLOL

Exactly! I'm not a debbie downer or anything I just, for once, would like to see us draft a first round QB.

True but you guys wanted a qb that wont start this year and is not guranteed to be any good lol

I think QBs can also be had in the 3rd round.

Yea I understand that. I want to win games though too. Not a fan of just drafting a QB, just because. Or any position for that matter. right time, right place, right player.

For whatever reason, the Chiefs have had poor timing when they tank.
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Whats the relevance of this post to this discussion?

You still havent answered why?? We have a pretty good qb right now! I would be in total agreement with you if we had poor qb play last year. But the qb we had wasnt to bad in 2nd half and also was 100x better than cassel was in 2010 playoff game lol

Wouldn't be surprised to see them take one today.

A THIRD ROUND QUARTERBACK WON THE ****ING SUPERBOWL THIS YEAR PUT DOWN YOUR reerun JUICE YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH.

Because 81% of drafted QBs win Super Bowls. Were trying to be the other 19%. Ya technically smith was drafted by the 49ers but I'm talking about wanting our own drafted guy not someone else's. Like always we do.

Maybe.....but it wouldn't shock me if they drafted no QBs either. Even if they do, he's basically just going to replace Bray. Does that gain them anything this year?
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Only Trent, and he could have if the D could've made the Colts punt just ONCE.

Nobody of note was of a mind that Cassel or Bono was anything short of a dumpster fire, and Bono still could've won playoff games if Marty ran Marcus in the freezing cold or Lin Eliot wasn't a dumpster fire as well. Gannon did go to a SB, just not here. Grbac had the talent, but not the temperament or the support of the town.

81% of drafted QB's win the SB? Have there been around 1,000 SB's I missed?

Not hard to be 100X better than Cassel. And that's a dumb argument. You shouldn't want a QB just as long as he is better than Cassel. You should want one that will be elite or win a super bowl

Ha bull shit. He wasn't touted to be a first round quarterback and he had red flags for injury prone in the scouting report so NO **** No not good enough to count for a future QB that we can count on year after year & build around.

So Chiefs draft one quarterback as high as the third round in 30 year span and then say "Oh we tried that didn't work so give up on the idea"?

****ing dumb ass fans.

LMAO

It was a stat I seen on twitter by the save our chiefs account

That was a really good stat, then. Solid research.

@1_ChiefsKingdom: 81% of Super Bowl winners drafted their QB.

For 30 years now, the #Chiefs have been trying to be the other 19%.

I messed the stat up. I'm just flustered and pissed off. So I type it right

We drafted Matt Blundin in the 2nd round in 1992. So there.

Carl also drafted a 2nd rounder in 1989, that almost no one ever talks about. I don't think he ever saw the field?
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19% is 1 in 5.

Most teams starting QB's were drafted by their team, about 4 out of 5.

Now try to do the math and figure out what that tells you odds wise.

Also out of those that were drafted who were elite?

No QB - nay, no PLAYER - is ever guaranteed to be good.

Dude, you ****ing suck. :D

Just win a Super Bowl. That's all that matters. Ravens are happy with a Super Bowl even though flacco isn't elite

And Dorsey and Reid are not against taking a QB in the 1st, nor do they have any tie to the previous club history.

What would it benefit so we can say yay we won a superbowl with a average qb that we drafted yay! Got to lay the foundation first before we can draft our own

I just did a quick calculation and it looks like 6 teams main staring QB wasn't drafted by them.

Thats about 19%.

I'm sure it varies some year to year but that means SB team winning QB draft status mirrors the make up of the leauge.

Been laying the foundation for 30 years...

Philly took a worse pass rusher right after we did.

Whats to think he would have lasted? He is the best pass rusher in the draft but sucks against the run. So did Derrick Thomas

Also KC hasnt had a pure speed pass rusher with finesse moves in a long long time. Hali and JH are just power bull rushers...

Ooops, I just started a thread like a dumb dumb

I was impressed by his introduction presser

His presser is great... calm, cool and collected, I sense a maturity there.

And a classically trained pianist? I love that shit, it says something strong about him being a smart, well rounded young man... not just another party hard college yahoo.

He really is the total package as a prospect. The people that complained about the pick have no idea how lucky we were to get him at 23. I know his perceived value doesn't necessarily say that, bit that will be irrelevant.

Again...Easley is better.

I'm a classically trained pianist.

I'll be the judge of that. He's probably some douchebag who can play one Chopin etude so now he thinks he's hot shit.

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