If Tyreek Hill is the prime suspect the information will get out. Some detective will purposely leak to punish a person they can't charge. Police do it all the time, they go to people's place of work and sabotage their career if they can't charge them.

"For the Good of the Shield"

Zeke was suspended 6 games for doing nothing

And they will lose. Goodell's power is absolute and it's been proven in court.

the child is safe and living with Marcus Peters.
there's no hitting going on in any part of Marcus' life.

That right there is my point.

A lot of assumption going on here, when one possibility is that he may not have done anything at all, or had anything at all to do with any of it.

Why are we assuming he's guilty of something, and why do some folks seem resigned to, or even hopeful for, a suspension?


I feel like I should add: if he did do something, he should ****ing burn for it. It's a child.

Roethlisberger is the only one I remember, and Goodell faced a backlash over that. Who were some others?

"So it could have been Tyreek? Is that what you're saying without saying it? Is that right? Can you confirm that I can confirm that fact?"

Jesus. Take a civics 101 class or GTFO.

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But those situations had victims who were accusing them.

That makes this a much different situation.

Then she's a ****ing shitbag and she should be in prison, and he should not be showing up in public places with her.

Not true.

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I haven't heard anything about the child being taken away.

I wonder if they've thought about asking the kid who done it?

In the end, a suspension won't matter. PEDelman owned us in the playoffs. Nobody gives a shit about regular season.

Johnson County DA: Tyreek Hill case will probably be sealed bc it involves a minor.
That would hinder media, Chiefs, NFL ability to investigate

The DA just said they're sure a crime was committed but can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's all the NFL needs. We can all hope that nothing more comes of it but we won't know until the NFL says something definitive. Players have gotten suspended for less.

I am still waiting for the punishment for Kraft. Prostitution with human trafficking.

Should be bad for the Patriots, NFL will fine them a 3rd rounder.

Howe did say they could reopen case if more evidence came forward 5 year statute of limitations.

Then you haven't been listening...

Yeah this appears much worse than Zeke's case. But in this instance there isn't even a specific allegation that Hill did anything himself. The DA basically says they could not establish the identity of who committed the crime.

Well the good news is nothing was resolved here. :facepalm:

Frankly I wish we knew WTF happened. I feel for the kid.

If he wasn't named in the case, what's the argument for suspension?

Surprised the Johnson County DA didn't file charges just for filing charges sake against someone. They have pulled more people through the mud over much less. These mother****ers should get a little more consistent.

This is an unfortunate result.

The kid was very likely abused. More likely than not, it was Tyreek who committed the act and Crystal is incentivized to help cover it up. They both refuse to cooperate. The DA doesn't have any real witness to the incident willing to testify and thus we have this press conference.

NFL will suspend him. Chiefs probably try to weather the storm. Organization looks bad. We all will feel a little dirty cheering for him.

Ah, yes. That's a good example of another bad decision by Goodell.

So we've got Roethlisberger and Ezekiel Elliott suspended without any charges being filed (if I remember right), and Talib not being suspended in the same circumstance. Who else? We need to start a database.

If he DOES get a suspension it will allow Mahomes to prove he can make every WR a star.

I wouldn’t be completely certain there. I mean maybe, but we’ll see how they feel in a year if things have kinda just blown over.

Things are too fresh right now.

Summarizing his press conference and conclusion no charges would be filed against Tyreek Hill, DA says it was important to put "some closure on this case, so we can all move forward

I simply do not believe this to be true.

My guess is the NFL won't suspend Hill but Godell will literally be waiting for Hill to get caught Jay walking or some other BS and put the hammer down.

Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Tom Brady

Exactly, if he’s involved with the public and putting himself out there to be a good model, no reason for Chiefs to get rid of him.

Like you said, it’s all fresh right now. People will calm down during the draft.

On second thought, I'm not sure the NFL will do anything. Goodell cares NOTHING about justice, but rather protecting the NFL brand name. I think you could make the case suspending Hill would HURT brand name because it would suggest HILL was guilty. The DA himself did not do that.

This is a tough call.

Generally there's at least a specific allegation, though. In this case, Tyreek had only ever been vaguely "involved."

I wouldn't put it past the NFL to botch this, of course, but I don't think there's any real precedent here.

This case doesn't even involve abusing a woman, but a child. The NFL is going to want to crush any possible bad PR on this.

Either way, Hill has a history, he is living in a home where the police are being called, children are being abused by someone under his roof, and if even if he's totally innocent he's not reporting it.

The NFL isn't going to need any more than that to want to send a strong message that they aren't going to tolerate this sort of dip****tery

Good work, team!

TYREEK will have a record year!!

Yeah, the guy who beat his pregnant girlfriend would never beat his son...

:rolleyes:

ok and they're going to suspend him based off of what information? Brooke Pryor? The sealed documents? The charges not filed against him?

After thinking about it and him saying CPS is still involved, my guess means they will be doing regular visits to the house for a period of time.

Who will they suspend?

Baldy Upforelection said they did ask Damien. Then Baldy made a rather odd statement ... something along the lines of, "The child often can't tell us."

I'm not sure what in the hell he meant by that. All in all, this was a pretty disgusting display. We're not filing charges is all he needed to say. But no ... let's leave every door wide open in order to maximize speculation.

Lady Justice weeps.

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Why do people assume Reek did it if he wasn't named in the suit?

Disagree. I don't see the grounds for which Tyreek will be suspended, nor do I see how the organization looks bad here for standing behind a player that wasn't named in anything. And unless something concrete comes up showing Tyreek is guilty of anything here, I will not feel dirty cheering for him.

Which is why he will not be a Chief, long term. Maybe shorter term than we think.

Thanks!!!!

Mohomo and Pugs were all fantastic!!!!

I tried my best to contribute as well.

I don't know how you could listen to the entire presser and still say the DA didn't do that.

It’s also still a possibility that the truth is that whatever happened was more of an accident than a crime

I wonder what the PA would think if the NFL tried to suspend Hill...might cause a shit storm.

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That's he's endangering children through one of two mechanisms:

1) He beat the **** out of his kid
2) His wife or someone else beat the **** out of his kid and he didn't help divulge information that would allow for prosecutors to try her

The only argument that makes Hill look remotely human in this case is that someone else beat the kid and he has since cut them completely out of the child's life, but there was too much uncertainty to establish exactly which person did it.

Come on, man. He beat up his pregnant girlfriend. I'm jumping to some outlandish conclusion?

Oh, and I'm familiar with people in KC who know Crystal's friends who have said similar things.

This isn't a good result for anyone.

Honestly rn is the best time to extend Hill. He will be cheaper then ever

I turned it off shortly after the same questions were repeatedly asked. The DA all but indicated the perp was Hill?

Good grief, man.

I hope you never sit on my next jury.

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You're simply not understanding the NFL process. The NFL is an employer - they can suspend on suspicion alone.

They don't have ANY burden of proof. The only thing that binds the process is appeal from the NFLPA. They can suspend him if they want to at any time and his only recourse is to appeal it.

The PA is not going to die on this Hill.

This mother****er said Hill would be suspended. Hes backtracking

5000+ post threads work people, Tyreek and Breeland. What should we put the hive mind to next?

ROFL What a clown.

I cant wait for any minute for Tyreek to be back on twitter

PFT ...providing garbage football takes by day, and even worse legal takes by night.

I get it.

They'll have to if he gets suspended. It's their job, essentially.

(and well played, btw)

A crime committed by whom? And everyone saying Tyreek did something should have forwarded your evidence to the Johnson county DA.

Exactly. "Stat Boy" is all kinds of Twisted...:loser:

I'm no lawyer but getting the convictions is going to be difficult in those circumstances, I'd imagine.

No.
"Johnson County District Attorney Steve Howe said Wednesday that he believes a crime was committed against the 3-year-old son of Kansas City Chiefs Tyreek Hill, but he doesn’t know who did it."

Woof. Good thing that’s not how that works.

What a ****ing moron.

Reek going for 3 TDs vs the Jags week 1

My guess is the evidence of the crime is a broken arm with a spiral fracture.

Question is why wasn't this investigated back in January?

The NFL doesn't have to have proof. You guys simply don't understand how the process works.

This has been a great reminder for why I quit listening to 810 years and years ago. Kietzman is bah-ru-tal

Didn't the dude say the NFL tried and were unsuccessful in getting information on this case? Pretty hard to suspend a player over something they have nothing but vague facts about.

means Tyreek's kid did not rat out whomever beat him. That is good. Being a rat is far far worse than being a child abuser.

You know what's sadder.....he used to be a lawyer.