It's adorable how far y'all have lowered the bar for this guy.

Dude makes a TFL because he went unblocked and the interior line collapsed - "HE HUSTLED!!!"

Cool - glad he didn't take the play off or anything. Not like a 5th round pick can't...uh...hustle.

Jeff Driskol forgets to throw a ball out of bounds on a busted play 2 weeks ago and "HE GOT A SACK!!!! HE DOESN'T SUCK!!!" because he was the last guy to put a hand on Driskoll before he sauntered his way OOB. "WOOOHOO!! THE SHARK IS BACK!!!"

This guy is ****ing awful. He's still awful. He makes 1 exceedingly average play/gm and you guys are singing his praises. He forces a fumble on a play because he literally fell down when he tried to make a cut and the play happened to come to him and suddenly he 'saved the game!' for us.

He's awful. He's been awful all season. He's maaaaaybe slightly less awful than he was a year ago. The defenses of him are so tepid and so piss poor that it is a textbook definition of damning with faint praise.

It's really pathetic. Frank Clark's grandma wasn't as proud of him for making his first doodie in the potty than you guys are when he manages not to trip over his own feet.

No, he really doesn't.

Frank Clark straight-arms plays and stops chopping his feet about half the time. But again, y'all just want so badly for him to not be a pile of shit you see things that aren't there.

This is the 2022 equivalent of "But guys, it's really hot outside..."

He's 'setting the edge' or some other inane nonsense that you can't actually provide any objective support for so you just say something that isn't the case.

Even DJLN acknowledges that THE SHARK IS BACK!

Good to know we're now in agreement, buddy.

I want nothing more than for the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl with Clark notching 5.5 sacks along the way.

I believe that would make him the NFL all time leader in postseason sacks.

That would be hilarious.

He's the same guy who said the Chiefs should have re-signed Mathieu. Dudes living in 2019 still

No it had nothing to do with the interior line getting their asses handed to them by our DL. It was all because Clarks assignment. Just look at what the tards on the previous page said.

Idk why they such a hard on for the ****ing loser.

If Frank Clark has a post-season so incredible that he gets himself ANOTHER absurd contract and wins us a SB, I'd be happier than a pig in shit.

I mean, I'll point out for the remainder of that new contract that the guy's a pile of shit player, but I'm still all for him playing well for as many games as he has remaining in this uniform.

But he isn't doing it NOW. And hasn't been doing it this season. I just think its laughable the curve we grade this clown on.

imagine a mediocre DE showing up to chiefs events for 40 years flashing his two rings

ROFL

I'm looking forward to him being inducted into the ring of honor.

I mean if the guy's a 'name' player on 2 championship teams, you KNOW it's happening...

he'd get a damn chiefs career video from yours truly ROFL

I've been one of Frank Clarks biggest critics. I have no idea why you are throwing me into the category of people praising him.

He does play hard from what I've seen. I never said he was good, I never said he was having a great year, all I said is he plays hard. I don't see what the big deal is.

I think clearly you don't like the guy and it is clouding your judgement more than you'd like to admit.

I don't see anything from Frank Clark's effort that puts him even LEVEL with every other member of that DL, let alone demonstrates he's in any way surpassing them.

I mean compare him to Mike Danna or Carlos Dunlap - it's no contest. Those guys absolutely play harder than he does.

Clark quits on his rush all the damn time. If you are trying to cite exemplary effort from him in some way, I'm just not sure what you're seeing.

Completely acceptable. Being a key reason why they have two rings in four years? Come to every event and flash that bling. Heck I am even fine if he is average at best in the regular season if he turns into Reggie White in the postseason.

He still sucks but better than last year and for a much better price. If he wants to stay here he needs to take a major pay cut.

Wanna tell me that you have some weird vendetta against Frank Clark without actually telling me?

The dude makes a true game-saving play and your memory of it is completely warped.

He doesn’t even fall down at all. He’s clearly chasing Mills from behind and makes the exact play he intended to make. What are you watching exactly to support the view you expressed here about how that play went down? I’m legitimately confused.

https://youtu.be/lwt6Pvz5Ksw

Interesting that you would cut off the first 4 seconds of that play where he tries to get inside of Tunsil who promptly puts him on his ass.

The reason he was that far downfield to make that play was he was busy getting his shit pushed in on his rush.

But according to you he 'intended' to get pile-driven.

And IM the one with foggy recollection of the play, eh?

Seriously - just aces work here, Twisted.

"Why would you say he was getting blown out of the play? He never even fell down; your memory demonstrates your bias!!"

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/pict...pictureid=2343

Derp.

But hey - just great hustle by Frank. After getting destroyed, he didn't just lay down and take a nap. SHARKSTUFF!!!! #BLOODINTHEWATER!!

F***'s sake DJLN you've got me hating him again.

Most folks don't need much help.

But for his cadre of fanbois and his memaw, you need to remind them a bit more obviously, I guess...

You said the play literally came to him.

Can you show a still of him chasing Mills down from behind after that and stripping him?

The play literally came to him.

Chris Jones flushed Mills out of the pocket and Mills had Clark beat to the corner until Gay covered the outside and Mills stutter stepped before stepping back inside where Clark threw his hand out.

Yeah - one of us has a faulty recollection of how this play unfolded and it ain't me, champ.

Chris Jones did his job spectacularly or it's just another example of Frank Clark getting wrecked on a rush. And if Gay isn't there to force Mills back inside, it's just another video of Clark trailing a play because he got owned.

Tell me more about who's memory is reflecting their bias here...

No, I am familiar with the beginning of that play. But sometimes things happen in the NFL and regardless of whether he lost his balance or not he got back up and made a play on the ball. That’s indisputable, no? It’s not like the fumble was caused by Frank Clark’s falling down accidentally on the play as your initial post seemed to indicate.

It’s amazing how desperate you are to hate him.

This meet with your approval, big fella?

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/pict...pictureid=2344

I'd probably set the shovel down if I were you...

You can't be THAT familiar with the beginning if your statement was "he doesn't fall down at all..." Unless you knew full well what happened at the beginning of that play and were just being disinguous as hell about it.

If Frank Clark isn't getting driven to the turf, he's nowhere near that play. And if Willie Gay doesn't cut off the corner or Chris Jones doesn't flush him, it's just another Frank Clark Failure.

But because his teammates did their job, y'all want to act like Clark made some miraculous play to save the day.

He didn't. He was in the right place at the right time BECAUSE he got wrecked.

It's amazing how desperate you are to defend him.

I guess the difference here is you seem to view strip sacks as just a normal play that’s easily made. Anyone can do it. It came to him and he was expected to do that when Mills broke from the pocket.

Right.

You do realize the implication from your initial post was that his falling down had a direct impact on his causing the fumble. As if he fell down in the act of it. That’s what I was disagreeing with.

If you want to claim that his falling down had some impact on the evolution of the play, sure, I acknowledge that. Things happen on every play that alter the course of how things may or may not go.

Do the Chiefs win that game if Clark isn’t on the field for that snap? I don’t think so.

It's not a strip sack. At all.

Guys 5 yards past the LOS and has Frank Clark in his dust.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/pict...pictureid=2345

A strip sack would require Frank Clark actually get upfield on a rush - something that he doesn't demonstrate an ability to do with any regularity at all. That MIGHT have been worth giving him credit for. Instead he just got smoked by the LT and beat to the corner by a statue.

If Willie Gay doesn't turn Mills inside, Clark's toasted. By Davis !@#$ing Mills.

Clark was the beneficiary of his teammates salvaging another of his shitty reps after Master Edge Setter got beat so badly he left the corner wide open for Mike Vick 2.0 to get outside of the pocket and into the open field.

And you're sitting here acting like we should be lighting candles in his honor.

If Frank Clark wasn't so bad at football that he'd been fired into the earth's core by Tunsil, they might not win that game.

What's that have to do with Clark's ability as a football player? WAY TO SUCK, FRANK!! Couldn't have done it without ya, bud. Please don't ever improve.

His shittyness had more than a 'direct impact' on the play - it was the play's determining factor. So? Daniel Sorensen made a few plays where he was simply beaten like a rented mule so he was there to punch a football away - doesn't mean he wasn't a bad football player.

And Frank Clark is a bad football player.

DJ in this thread every week. LMAO

https://media4.giphy.com/media/5tvUn...d=200.gif&ct=g

In my defense, I've gotten fairly subdued in this thread until the "Do you guys even football, bro!" shit starts.

The thread becomes an empty chair interview when guys congratulate themselves for how right they are about the re-emergent greatness of Frank Clark and then start sucking their own dicks about it.

https://media.tenor.com/QdFuSeDGQJkA...-be-nothin.gif

I hadn't posted in this thread in about a month. And for the most part haven't said anything since before his suspension. But the bullshit was getting piled up just a little too deep in here...

Man....I think I'd go 3 for 50 to bring him back

LMAO

That is ****ing hilarious. And I’m stealing it.

Frank is complete dogshit. He’s trying to time snaps these days because he can’t beat any LT off the snap with a quick first step. And he’s too light and soft to win a hand battle.
Until I went and rewatched that play I didn’t realize he got beat so badly initially on the play. Tunsil took pity on him by not burying him right there.

It's all part of the brilliance of The Shart.

If he presents a credible threat on that play, Tunsil finishes his block. But because he is shitty like a fox, Tunsil treated him like a non-factor and BOOM - blood. in. the. water.

You simply don't football enough. If you did, you'd understand that Clark being terrible is an asset.

the shart give him the old rope a dope! played dead and rose from the grave to make the play!

frank the possum!

Cassius Clark!

Lulls them to sleep with that clinch walk then BOOM the edge is set

Look at you out here playing checkers while Cassius is playing 4D chess.

Setting the edge is for suckers. Clark gets DEMOLISHED on the edge so he can go out there and force game-altering turnovers, brah.

You really don't understand how this works. Obi Clarknobi is out here Jedi Mind-Tricking LTs into taking plays off. "I'm not the Pro Bowler you're looking for..."

If he wants to stay here, are you ****ing kidding…

Clark could get injured tomorrow and it would have 0 impact on the defense

I'm going to have to disagree with you here. That means George, Dunlap, Danna and CJ probably take more snaps at DE thus we get more production.

I'm still not a fan of Frank Clark, in case anyone was wondering.

Had a chuckle reading DJLN's posts. Honestly thought I was Clark's biggest hater, but I'm an amateur, ha.

That said, hate to say it but there's only one player on the roster whose going to get more pressure than him by increasing his DE snaps, and it's Jones. You're not getting it from Karlaftis, Dunlap or Danna either, and the only one of those who looks like he's consistently setting an edge, surprisingly, is Dunlap. The rest are getting moved around every bit as pathetically as Clark. The saving grace for our other DEs is that's one's a rookie and none are expensive.

Man you missed the whole "Frank Clark knocked Russell Wilson out of the game and none of you guys are giving him credit" saga.

Because apparently Clark getting pushed out of the play, and then hitting a Wilson in the head and landing on him after 15 yards and after Thornhill has already made the tackle is something Clark should get a round of applause for.

Nah, he still kind of sucks. He's not horrible, just horribly overpaid. He's a rotational level player forced into playing majority snaps because we don't have anything else.

Ah - The Clyde Edwards Helaire approach to roster management...

ROFL "The Shart" :hmmm: LMAO

elite!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Highest graded Chiefs in Week 15 win vs Texans:<br><br>�� Frank Clark - 91.7<br>�� Patrick Mahomes - 88.6<br>�� Carlos Dunlap - 82.8<br>4️⃣ Travis Kelce - 81.2<br>5️⃣ Joe Thuney - 77.0 <a href="https://t.co/6o9fvFZO3D">pic.twitter.com/6o9fvFZO3D</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1605331184061648896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;ll say it. I miss the Seahawks having Frank Clark.</p>&mdash; 12th Man Rising (@12thMan_Rising) <a href="https://twitter.com/12thMan_Rising/status/1606745194656776192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sure would be nice to have a guy like Frank Clark on the D-line, too bad the Seahawks never draft players like that.</p>&mdash; d mears (@dtmears2) <a href="https://twitter.com/dtmears2/status/1606729526826131456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I notice you didn't provide the breakdown for how he got to that figure against Houston....

You seem to have neglected to include his 56.3 pas rush grade in that game. In fact, his highest individual grade against Houston was a 78.2...in coverage.

So I guess it's time to add that to his resume - Frank Clark: Lockdown corner.

Clark's had 3 straight games w/ a pass rush grade below 60. He's had one pass rush grade above 70 (i.e. starting caliber) all season. Meanwhile he's had 6 below 60.

Oh, and even with all that, his pass rush grade on the season is actually HIGHER than his run stop grade. And his tackling grade is a laughably bad 30.4. That shitty tackler, Justin Reid, has a 49.8 by comparison.

Frank Clark isn't good at ANYTHING. He's not getting better at ANYTHING. His Denver game was his 2nd worst game of the season in week 14. His Seattle game was just another completely forgettable, sub-starting level performance. The only 'good' game he's had this season was the Houston game and that was fueled by, of all things, his coverage rating.

Frank Clark's a bad football player.

Just here to enlighten...

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We would have tied Houston if not for Frank. #thankful

I'll be glad when he's gone.

Time to move on, and nothing will really change my mind on the subject.

Even if he tears it up in the playoffs and has a string of sacks put together and leads us to a SB win, I still dont want him back next season.

I dont like the 85% crap and 15% good ratio he has. He's been stupidly overpaid.

Addition by subtraction, esp if Karalaftis continues to improve.

He would get paid elsewhere if that happens, if not, and we could sign him at a reasonable price, sign him...

Not that it really matters, but if you go back and look at that strip play by Frank, Tunsil ducks his head and stops Clark's left knee for a fraction of a second with his right hand as Frank tries to cross his face, which is how he ends up on the ground.

I'll just say this... he has clearly stepped it up the last few weeks, so lets hope it continues

Pretty cool that our Frank Clark has added coverage to his repertoire.

It’s impressive when a player later in the career is still improving from already-peak form.

If he has a good showing in the playoffs, we may even get a pick for him instead of cutting him.

Spags said in some presser last season that Frank had played DB at some point early in his career, forget whether it was HS or college.

You can hate on Frank, but to say he's bad is being obtuse... JAG, sure, Bad is just a lame take.

He’s bad alright…a badass mother****er

He’s ****ing terrible.

I've been on this since he's been here. He cannot do a ****ing thing on his own. All of his playoff sacks, but 1 in 2019 happened because of his teammates. His teammates dominate the play and he happens to luck into a sack. Most of the people in here are clearly trolling, but then there are a select few that think he's actually doing good.

You should start another thread...

Wow really good reply! A+

I don't start threads more often than most do I?

TwistedChief...do you want my Venmo now or later?

Haha actually Im kinda scared hes gonna reel off some garbage sacks in a game like this and vs some broke dick vs Las Vegas.

I don't do venmo but have PayPal or can mail you cash or a check. Of course, that's if he doesn't break out the next couple weeks.

I still think the suspension should've reduced the over/under down to 7 as that's not exactly something that's within his control (as an injury would be).

Ok, I'm not necessarily defending Clark, but you do understand that this is kind of how things work, right?

If you have one dominant defensive lineman, you just work away from them. If you have two, that's a lot harder to do, and the play of one affects the other, and the other, and the other. It's a team sport.

Clark has been underwhelming, but this is always how things work up front. It's pretty rare to just completely overwhelm a professional offensive lineman off the snap and get a sack in .5 seconds.

I think we can be honest about being frustrated with a gigantic overpay for Clark without being hyperbolic.

Agreed. And he also sucks.

It not quantity, it's quality...

That’s because he ****ing sucks and you have better taste.

It was in his control to be a dumb shit.

I'm savoring every last squeeze of the moments we will have with Patrick Mahomes as QB. I don't look forward to future seasons as long as he's playing.

But man I will be happy next year when we cut Clark's ass.

Few things have EVER been more 'within his control' than being suspended for toting automatic weapons around California...

What is wrong with the quality of my threads?

But he is bad. JAG = average and this mother ****er isn't close to average.

Forgot about this bet with you IHC. I'ma buy me a nice hat. No wonder you're throwing so much shade my way.

$100 says it'll be a flat bill

Nonsense. This entire thread is about a more responsible Frank Clark and his performance and behavior this season. His past transgressions are exactly that…past.

Lol, never owned a flat bill in my entire life.

Sure. And still directly led to his suspension. A suspension that most everyone thought was a possibility and obviously had not been served.

The excuses you make for this guy are just incredible.