LMAO Panthers are dumb as **** for rejecting that offer.

You're down to like...Arden Key

Frank Clark for Myles Garrett.


We might have to throw in a 5th to make it happen. I don't know if I'd do the deal if so.

And there's no indication he's even on the trade block.

Kind of feels like we're going to get shut out here. :(

Winner!

No team is going to give up on 3 or 4 seasons in the future. That's just stupid. It's entirely possible to obtain marked improvement year over year.

You might be able to get someone from the Bears they are fully tearing it down.

Hugh Douglas

Yes I am going to win many games with a HC I don't have yet and PJ Walker.

Especially since Burns will be 26 in 2025. That's only a year into what should be his prime.

Maybe picking up Suh to beef up the line?

Not interested at all. There's a reason he's still a free agent.

ONLY A FEW HOURS LEFT!!!!!!!!

And that's why the Panthers didn't take the deal to begin with.

All offers of first round picks aren't created equal.

The Rams will probably suck by then though...

They don't even have 1 QB under contract for 2023. That franchise a dumpster fire raging out of control. Doubtful they improve out of terrible

I bet there's a lot of teams that have contacted him but he's just waiting to play the home stretch for a contender. He has 6 sacks and 13qb hits last year. He'd still make a very solid pickup IMO.

Well there's this thing called the draft...

There's very little out there to improve any of our areas of need IMO.

Toney is probably a good gamble, but more of a buy-low proposition that could pay off in future years.

Don't know what else Burt could have or should have done to improve the team this year at the deadline. Nobody gives pass rushers away, and winning a bidding war could still end up being a loss.

Daron Payne. Do it.

Trouble is, we're nowhere close to the 2,000 posts it takes to get an edge rusher created ex nihilo

I might take that deal.

The Rams are not far from sucking REAL bad. Aaron Donald is a retirement risk every season it seems. Kupp still doesn't strike me as someone that would age terribly well. Ramsey isn't going to get any better. They don't have any picks to speak of to boost their talent pool. What does that team have on the horizon?

That's a team that's mediocre right now and on its way to bad. In 24 and 25 those could BOTH be top 10 picks.

I'd take it. I'd also be surprised if the Rams offered it.

All true.

this

Oh.

It's Dov Kleiman.

Yeah - nothing to see here. That guy's pathologically full of shit.

Boy, two 1st round picks sure would help that newly drafted QB rebuild a team around...

If the Jaguars won't come off Allen maybe we can get can a visit from John Henderson

Payne would help the pass rush and help vs the run.

A single first next year would be better to do that with.

Even if they suck - which you obviously can't guarantee with any level of certainty - teams typically discount forward draft picks substantially. I've read it's on the order one round as a rule of thumb.

So if that's true, 2024 and 2025 1sts = 2nd and a 3rd in the 2023 draft.

That doesn't sound that great if I'm the Panthers.

You're taking those future picks based upon value on this year. I look at them as time matured. Meaning it don't matter what the value of them are this year. It only matters what value they are when they reach maturity.

Rebuilds aren't solved by single picks, speed rushers or only picks right now.

Exactly.

Stafford is on the downside of his career. Cooper Kupp will not be able to sustain his production year over year. Donald is getting older. Even hinted at retirement last year for a more money. Jalen Ramsey isn't getting any younger.

Point is all their key pieces are wearing out.

K'Lavon Chaisson is still loaded with tools - make him a 3rd down guided missile and see what you get.

Rasheem Green, even without Hughes in tow, would be a nice inside/outside pass rusher. Some rumors that Efe Odaba might be available with Chase Young returning; he could be a nice supplemental rusher. Lorenzo Carter fits that longer pass-rusher mold that Spags likes but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.

Ogunjobi and Ngakoue have already been discussed as well. Either could help.

Clark hanging on to that 1st rounder like it's his balls.

They have to do SOMETHING. Even if it's one of the guys who would just be depth. Although with this line....they'd probably end up as starters.

Looks like the Colts are going to trade Nyheim Hines. Bet Buffalo is in on that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Commanders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Commanders</a> are expected to release cornerback William Jackson III if there&#39;s no trade partner by the deadline. Teams have called on Jackson but no trade has materialized and the back injury was also believed to be a factor. Jackson signed a $40.5M deal in 2021.</p>&mdash; Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1587460890672111617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They are, according to reports.

I saw it was two top teams. My guess is the Bills and Eagles.

I meant on the receiving end. They should be untradeble for the rams.

Correct. The 3rd team is the Rams.

For real...I can't believe the Rams offered that.
The Panthers are such a trash organization. That's exactly the sort of moves they need to making to generate some draft capital. I live near Davidson NC, so I see and hear it all first hand. Really makes a guy appreciate the current Chiefs regime.

What the **** are the Rams doing? Jesus.

They have way to many holes to be worrying about a RB at this point.

Thank you.

5 hours left. Need to get something done.

The Rams and the Broncos are racing each other to the bottom.

Even if none of those guys are world beaters....they would all help. Plus they're relatively young and could be offered a new deal here if they succeed in the system.

Veach HAS to get one of them.

I like Chaisson, and he fits the Veach mold.

I don't think Jacksonville has ever just used him as a 43 rush down specialist, or at least not committed to it. I'd flip a Day 3 pick to them, maybe even a 4th, to see if I could get at least that level of use out of him.

He's on IR right now, though, with a meniscus issue. Not sure they can trade him.

I'd be good with Key or Rasheem Green. Either helps replace some of what KC lost with Wharton going down.

I heard that Boot Virch actively hates the Kansas City Chiefs and that's why he's not making any moves today during the trade deadline.

DAMN YOU FANTASY FOOTBALL ROSTER LOCKS!!!!

Couldn't the trade deadline have been on a Wednesday or something? I ain't got enough FAAB money for this bullshit...

if the panthers turned down the rams 1st rounders offer theyre crazy. they’re def at risk of picking top-10 in both of those seasons.

do the rams have any first round picks left?

for some reason I thought they really mortgaged their future to get that superbowl

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> recently called the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> about trading for LB/DE Josh Allen, per SI.<br><br>KC is looking to add a pass-rusher by the deadline. <a href="https://t.co/NwSRPLLawY">pic.twitter.com/NwSRPLLawY</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1587460956614848512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Old news at this point. The Jags don't want to trade him bad enough.

The Stafford deal is done, so yes? The Panthers are braindead for declining that offer.

LMAO Posturing for a better return.

They have no first in 23, they are trying to give away 24 and 25 apparently.

Packers lost again and have zero WR depth but are full of pass rushers.

Maybe package Hardman+Pick/s for Preston Smith or Rashan Gary?

Which the Chiefs aren't willing to give. That's pretty clear at this point. He's not coming to KC.

I just don't see anything going down with us today.

ROFL

Man, you should start a club with O.City and Direckshun.

If true....then I don't understand it at all. There are depth defensive linemen out there that could help out this team for the rest of the season. I highly doubt that they're asking for the moon in return.

for some reason I thought they dug themselves a multi year hole with ramsey/stafford/random shit player

Oh boy

I'm sure that's probably the case. I would have to say it's probably not from a lack of effort on Veach's part though. They've been linked to every pass rusher that went anywhere.

...and Von Miller.

I live in AZ and the local radio guys are talking about how the Cardinals coudl sell a few guys and focus on younger long term players.

How about JJ Watt? Would save them money and would fit in our cap. Would probably break his foot stepping off Hunts private plane BUT not a ton out there haha?

Only 4 more hours of hot takes, let it all out.

We're trading Hardman.
We're trading CEH.
We're trading for a LT and moving Brown to RT.

Just to get those dumb ideas out of the way.

Hardman + 2023 1st for Aaron Donald!
3 more 1st round picks for Josh Allen (either Josh Allen)

We're getting nobody. :(

"Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing..."

Seems like when all is said and done, more's gonna be said than done.

Veach is on the phone right now…talking bidness

We traded for Toney already. Thats 100% more than expected in a reload year for me.

I don't understand it....but it's whatever.

I feel like Ngakoue gets dealt somewhere. It just makes very little sense for Indy to keep him at this point.

So they're probably weighing offers. My worry is that there may need to be some contract maneuvering as his $5 million base leaves him with around a $3 million cap hit. They may need him to agree to an 'extension' to bonus that base out and halve the cap figure.

Though the Chiefs could probably just send them RoJo back in the deal to clear some room if the Colts end up moving Hines.

Yep.