It doesn't matter, at all. KC has had this game circled since January of last year.

If comments from Justin Reid are what Cincy needs to get motivated then they are already ****ed.

biggest thing no one is talking about is tipped passes

chiefs have 13 this year, karlaftis is great at it, dunlap is great it

burrow has had the 2nd most tipped passes in the league this year

we could legit get 2 picks off tipped balls this week

So is Jones

Ok. Noted.

I expect to see the same comments when some other idiot gives the Chiefs some bulletin board material.

And then there is a post like this talking about BRC's tailgate.


Oh but they're so civilized over there. :rolleyes:

Well, that seals it

Bart Scott eats paint chips.

Probably not smart for a DB with a 125 passer rating against to talk shit against the team with the best WR in the league..

that stat is a lie though

he's given up 300 yards in 11 games

that's phenomenal

passer rating is a function of him giving up 3 TD and not getting a pick this year

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:facepalm:

They just have to blitz sparingly and hopefully get to him before he can chuck it to Chase and crew.

Keep in mind they have done this by playing against some of the best defenses in the league. SF hasn’t given up a second half point since KC beat them down weeks ago. They are elite unless matched up against the KC offense led by Mahomes and Reid.

The Bucs defense has given up 16.2ppg and hasn't given up more than 27 all year.

If you don't count the 41 they gave up to the Chiefs.

The big reason you can’t just compare stats is because stats have zero context.

When you add context to the defensive stats for both teams (yardage is similar, points are similar, sacks and other pass rushing stats favor the Chiefs heavily), the Chiefs numbers look better and the Bengals numbers look significantly worse.

And yes, I’m only comparing the defenses. If you can’t slow Mahomes and co down a little, you have no shot. Even when your offense plays well, it doesn’t matter. Mahomes has another level that no one else can reach.

Even walking off the field with a 3 point lead and 13 seconds with the number 1 defense doesn’t matter when Mahomes can do what he wants.

Mahomes & Co stopped themselves last year x2. Credit the butt****ing bungles for changing something up to throw them off, because it happened twice, but we all know that was more on our guys than on them. The offense simply has to play four quarters, and they will obliterate these pretender shitstains.

Bart Scott always picks against us. Didn’t he predict we would miss the playoffs this year?

I wouldn't go that far. But yes, they did expose our weaknesses. And yes, Veach addressed a lot of those through the draft and FA. That's why I think those Bengals fans are in for a surprise. This defense is better and the offense is more diverse.

And one thing about that AFC Champ game is that Mahomes locked in on Tyreek and Kelce. This year, he has been spreading it around a lot more.

I'm not saying this game couldn't be close. As we've seen, some teams just seem to match up better or play better against us. And they are the defending AFC Champs, not some bumbs. This won't be easy. But I'm willing to bet that Patrick comes out with a focus like no other. And when he plays like that, we are damn near impossible to beat.

The Chiefs basically can't give bulletin board material, every team they play is massively up for the game because the Chiefs are the measuring stick.

The thing is the Chargers have personnel to give us issues, the Titans style gives us issues, the Bengals have neither, we literally just gave those games away.

Yep. He is a dumber Skip Bayless. Less annoying, but in same category of dipshit.

I expect Andy to have a nice little bag of tricks set up for this game after what they did to us last year.

There was probably a whole section in his notebook of play designs for this game that they haven’t seen yet.

This.....this all day.

49ers D against Chiefs: 44 points

49ers D since: 40 points

He predicted us to miss the playoffs, the Broncos to win the division, the Raiders a wildcard along with Cleveland and oh yea, the Colts to win their division.

LMAO

I'm glad he is picking against KC.

I am actually fine with that. As Ric Flair used to say “Woooooo”! Also “To be the man you have to beat the man”. Cincinnati did that last year, twice. Until KC proves they can beat them it’s fair for the experts to pick them.

Random thought:
One of the consistent keys to beating the Chiefs is holding them to FGs in the red zone.

The Chiefs weren't great in the red zone against the Rams, but they also didn't need to be. I'd guess they're sitting on some of their best, new red zone wrinkles in anticipation of this game (and then probably will sit on wrinkles until the playoffs).

That's kind of par for the course.

And I'd expect them to sit on some of their best new stuff after this game, too, in anticipation of the playoffs.

looking forward to the disappointing 24-10 win over the broncos

He was talking about the TE Hurst. It's not likely that he goes off. Very different from Shaq Barrett talking trash on Thuney and Trey Smith.

Hot Take - Chiefs secondary will play at an elite level leading to Burrow throwing multiple INTs

mcduffie and reid

Also not having Hardman played a role in that. He is very effective in the red zone. Another thing about the Rams is that Ramsey was on Kelce a lot and although Travis made him look bad once, he was pretty effective covering Kelce. Also the Rams have three future HOFers on that defense. Their offense is putrid, but their defense is still really good.

I was with you until you said Jimmy G is top 5. No way that's true. Is it?

Burrow is due for an “off” game. He has 8 INT against AFC North opponents and 0 INT against the rest of NFL. Of course it’s entirely possible he keeps the streak going and torches the KC defense. I’ll be rooting against him!

He said top 5 in QB rating, which is true.

Jimmy G is #5 this year in passer rating, but #17 in QBR. Mahomes is #4 in passer rating and #2 in QBR. Burrow is #6 in passer rating and #13 in QBR.

These the same kind of dumb arses who claimed the Chiefs wouldn't make the playoffs this year without Tyreek?

3 questions:

Where did you get that stat?

How do they attribute yards given up to safeties?

How does that stat compare to all the other NFL (strong) safeties?

Exactly.

24-6 or even 22-6 seem more likely to me, though.

pro football reference

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...R/ReidJu00.htm

don't know on the others, but as the 4th least targeted safety in the league and tied for the 3rd fewest catches allowed, you can bet he's in the top 10 for yards allowed

I'll give you the style argument as I think Mahomes, Reid, and Co. have shown that they figured out how to attack that this year.
However, do you not consider Joe Burrow and those big, fast WRs personnel that will give us issues?

QBR is that ESPN thing, right? I never have been a fan of that. Still, my eyes tell me that Jimmy G is not even close to #5 so maybe QBR is on it. /shrug

Burrow and those WRs are definitely going to be a challenge.

They beat us by throwing jump balls, that stuff evens out eventually.

QBR is pretty good. It accounts for things like rushing and clutch plays in 4th quarter. Passer rating can be very misleading, which is how guys like Jimmy G and Alex Smith can end up pretty high on the list. For instance, Mahomes torched a very good Bucs defense for 40+ points. Yet his passer rating was pretty low in that game. His QBR grade was 90/100, which is appropriate.

Joe Cullen week fellas. We may not have a ton of sacks but we do have a lot of pressures stacked up. I think we’re gonna see Cullen open up his pass rush twist/stunts a bit and get some consistent pressure.

I have a feeling that’s going to be the pick of most talking heads this week.

Sure did.

When they spend all day, every day, trying to come up with reasons Patrick Mahomes ISN'T the best QB in football, this is the sort of answer they're gonna come to.

Fortunately for us, he IS the best, so I don't really have to give a shit about this sort of nonsense.

I just don't understand these arguments built out of intangible rules. So fans of bad teams are required to spend all their time and money on the team, and fans of good teams shouldn't get too excited? People making these arguments shouldn't be engaged, they are just trolling.

Gonna need to score a lot. Our DBs always get abused by good QB's, so I doubt that will change.

I don't recall us ever running into Bart Scott all that often in spite of him spending his entire career in the AFC. And I don't recall any beefs he had with Andy Reid when he was with the Eagles, either. The Chiefs were bad when he was on a few of those good Ravens and Jets teams, so almost all the matchups we had against him were inconsequential.

Like, what's his deal? Is he trying to be Skip Bayless or something? Even the Patriot tards on ESPN like Bruschi just shrug their shoulders and acknowledge the incredible run that Mahomes and the Chiefs have been putting together and appear to be continuing for the next several years.

Wth?

he thinks mahomes is the mvp now and the chiefs are good but picked the bengals for reasons ROFL

Woah. Hot take. You mean to tell me that good QBs have more success than bad ones?

Crazy shit bro.

The only DB on the roster who played a ton last year was Sneed. It's a whole new group, other than a healthier Thornhill.

If the Chiefs even give up 20 points against a good QB, many would call that getting "abused".

We are supposed to win 69-0 every week, duh...

We have imo

I see our friends in Cincinnati trying to compare the defense a season ago to this one.

All stat based. No real notes of personnel changes or teams faced.

The only change they appear to be aware of is losing Hill, and it seems they consider the offense worse as a result.

It’s funny.

they're maybe the 6th best defense we've seen all year, TOPS

dawgs about to EAT

Really sucks we are not at full power for this one.

They're not even 6th. Maybe 8th.

If the Chiefs lose, its because the Bengals are in their head and they have stepped on their own toes all game.

*cough* special teams better get their shit together.

you do wish they had one of hardman or toney

we need skyy to be on point

Mcduffie, Williams, and Jaylen Watson are gelling and Burrow's 50/50 passes will be contested a metric ****ton better due to size and dimensions of Josh and Jaylen. Trent is going to do his best Revis impersonation and shutdown one of Joe Exotic's main targets.

Joe Exotic. ROFL

A loss doesn't kill the 1 seed chance but we would need to win out for sure. That loss to the Bills hurts bad. Still pissed about the Colts game. We would have a game cusshion

Someone in the gamethread last week was disappointed in the defense at half.

They had given up 3 points LMAO

Just fair catch every punt and kneel every kick off. We gain nothing from that.

Hmm..

D Hop was out @ ARI, Allen and Mike Williams have been banged up for the LAC games, Kupp was out vs LAR, Chris Godwin was banged up @ Tampa as well.

I suppose there's some merit to the idea, but we faced the Bills and 49ers at full strength and held them both to 24 and 23 points respectively.

I've long thought this would be the best plan of action.

When's the last time we had a big play on a return? There may be one I'm forgetting from recently but we've had like five or six disasters since then. It's just not worth it.

This is one of the best offenses statistically to ever play, just don't **** it up.

Pacheco had a big return earlier in the year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A key for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> defensive line and anyone blitzing will be getting their hands up in the air against Joe Burrow. The amount of deflected passes he has is a rarity to see on coaches film this routinely. Can’t make the sack? Get the hands up. Two became INTs vs PIT. <a href="https://t.co/14SjR8pohk">pic.twitter.com/14SjR8pohk</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1598407028321714176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I suppose that is why they continue to be stubborn and try returns..

They know the offense will cover up any mistakes in the long run.

Yeah, I remember a nice return but don't remember who it was against.. I feel like I'm remembering him getting a 15-yard roughing added on top by taking a hit on the sidelines too.

Even so, Skyy's muffed like 4 punts this year and we've started at the 20 or closer to our end zone far more often than that one kick return was worth, IMO.

Doesn't our very own George Karlaftis lead the league in that category? Thought they said that in one of the last two games (maybe it was "for all rookies"? or some such obscure metric... "of all rookies with a Greek last name who play DE and are caucasian")

Our offense moved the ball down at will against a very good Rams defense who is tiers above this bungholes defense. 437 yards of total offense. They struggled in the red zone for some odd reason but the offense will eat this Sunday no matter what.
What will come as a surprise to the bunghole fanbase is our defense being significantly better than it was compared to last year by all metrics. Our D Line is better, our linebacker core is healthy and more seasoned, secondary is vastly improved. Our defense is faster and more agressive than last year. They have been shutting off the opponents for entire halves of a game.

I guess the Bungles are kinda salty this week.

i think getting in their craw is good

we want them unfocused

chiefs focus is stamped in steel