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gblowfish 07-23-2023 09:37 AM

I can tell you as a lifelong resident of Jackson County, this shit won't stand. Every single resident I know is pissed off about it, and there will be consequences for Frank White and minions.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2023 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspector (Post 17027618)
Wow.

I fell for it. Told me it was reduced but it never was. No documentation, no reduction. Apparently the whole zoom meeting deal was a scam.

Now, I'm not allowed to make another attempt. That $80k reduction was just lip service. I guess they figured we wouldn't discover the con job until we got the tax bill and they were snugly back home in Texas.

:banghead::banghead: I give up. They win. I suppose that was the intent all along.

The legislature is going to take care of this. No money = can't conduct appeals.

JaCo has an unsolvable problem on their hands. They're going to be forced into a blanket reduction or face riots.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2023 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 17027621)
I can tell you as a lifelong resident of Jackson County, this shit won't stand. Every single resident I know is pissed off about it, and there will be consequences for Frank White and minions.

It's going to be the renters too. When you have bipartisan support for checking local government overreach, things happen.

Eventually they are going to have to come to terms with the fact that Tyler isn't going to finish the job, and then it falls to the County to do SOMETHING.

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news...ssment-process

Jackson County legislators discuss holding Tyler Technologies accountable

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. — All week, and really all summer, Jackson County legislators have talked about how to improve this year's property assessment process.

"We should've been able to figure this out as soon as we got past 2019, when the legislature invested the $18 million," Jalen Anderson, 1st district at-large legislator said, referring to the assessment mess that happened in 2019.

They take issue with Tyler Technologies, the company the county contracted to generate the property values, which the county awarded an $18 million dollar contract.

At the county legislature meeting Monday, legislators talked about withholding money from Tyler's contract because of issues in the process, which KSHB 41 News has reported on for weeks.

"Is it true that we still have about three and a half million bucks withheld from Tyler?" Manny Abarca, 1st district legislator, asked County Administrator Troy Schulte.

Schulte responded, "Yeah, I think it's more than that."

However, Mod Op, the company the county is paying $90,000 to handle assessment communications, takes issue with county officials and legislators using the term "withhold."

Mod Op told KSHB 41 Tyler has not billed the county yet for the $6 million remaining on the contract, so the county hasn't issued any money.

"I think that was their concern that we're 'withholding' it," Schulte told KSHB 41 on Thursday. "I think the number we're actually withholding is about $4 million, but they haven't billed us through, so a total of $6 million."

Schulte said the county has daily conversations with Tyler to make sure they meet their requirements, of which they've fallen short so far, resulting in mass confusion for homeowners.

Schulte added that Tyler Technologies is not in breach of its contract.

It's a deliverable-based contract, so Schulte says when Tyler completes a project, then they get paid.

"We have paid them for completion of the software. We have not paid them for the completion of the parcel-by-parcel review or the appeals process, which is their contract," Schulte said. "So those are the processes where we continue to work, negotiate with Tyler, to make sure we get the results we need."

The parcel-by-parcel review and the appeals process is where Schulte says Tyler has fallen short.

Tyler turned the parcel data into the county four months late, causing a time crunch.

"It's that compression issue of trying to do it within a 30 to 60 day process, as opposed to what our original intention had been, to be a four to five month process," Schulte said at the legislature meeting.

Tyler's phone system was not working properly, leaving homeowners hanging while trying to schedule appeal hearings.

Schulte said Tyler's phone system was set up on eastern time, not central. They didn't have enough staffing.

People would be on hold for a long time and when they were next, the line would hang up. There wasn't an option to leave a voicemail. When homeowners had appeals hearings set up on a Zoom call, no one with Tyler would show up.

Jackson County Legislature Chairman Daron McGee said constituents told him they took off work to be on the Zoom call only to have no one show up.

Schulte told legislators that Tyler had scheduled too many Zooms in one hour, thinking they'd only take five to 10 minutes. In reality, the calls required much more time than that, leading to delays.

"My conversations with Tyler was, 'Answer the G-D phones, that's what we're paying you for.' That was the recurring issue.," Schulte said.

The phone issues got so bad that the county had to take over that portion on July 10.

The legislators talked about that at-length at their last meeting.

"We had the Tyler Technologies representative here. They told us everything was great and clearly things are not as well as they expounded to us three weeks ago," McGee said. "Clearly that was bull. I mean, that doesn't even make sense with all issues we're having. It's countywide. It makes us look bad that we've contracted to a company that clearly has done a bad job. We should have never [hung up] on taxpayers."

Abarca asked several times during the meeting when the county will acknowledge the assessment process was a failure.

"Where does the buck stop?" Abarca asked.

Legislators are expected to discuss a resolution at their next meeting to further ensure Tyler Technologies meets its requirements. Sean Smith, 6th district legislator, brought up the idea.

Schulte responded to the resolution idea, saying, "I don't think that would hurt."

neech 07-23-2023 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspector (Post 17027618)
Wow.

I fell for it. Told me it was reduced but it never was. No documentation, no reduction. Apparently the whole zoom meeting deal was a scam.

Now, I'm not allowed to make another attempt. That $80k reduction was just lip service. I guess they figured we wouldn't discover the con job until we got the tax bill and they were snugly back home in Texas.

:banghead::banghead: I give up. They win. I suppose that was the intent all along.

That sucks man. But you can still be vocal about it and vote them out of office as well.

Don't be quiet about it though then they really win.

Inspector 07-23-2023 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 17027619)
They should have generated some kind of confirming paperwork of the reduction. Check with them and have them send a PDF. Did you record the Zoom Call?

We asked for documentation during our call and was told, "It's been taken care of." Since we were somewhat satisfied with the agreement, we accepted him at his word. Ooops!

I've tried to contact them but my attempts have not been successful. Waiting to see if they respond to my email.

And no, we didn't record it. Yep, dumb old people we are. Gullible to think anyone else has integrity.

gblowfish 07-23-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspector (Post 17027703)
We asked for documentation during our call and was told, "It's been taken care of." Since we were somewhat satisfied with the agreement, we accepted him at his word. Ooops!

I've tried to contact them but my attempts have not been successful. Waiting to see if they respond to my email.

And no, we didn't record it. Yep, dumb old people we are. Gullible to think anyone else has integrity.

Threaten to sue them if they don't provide the proper and accurate documentation.

Inspector 07-23-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by neech (Post 17027656)
That sucks man. But you can still be vocal about it and vote them out of office as well.

Don't be quiet about it though then they really win.

Thanks man. I'll definitely will be thinking about this during their next election. I've also posted about this on the Nextdoor application too.

I'm assuming I'm not alone and others have fallen for their con.

Inspector 07-23-2023 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 17027704)
Threaten to sue them if they don't provide the proper and accurate documentation.

Not ruling that out. A lot of them are connected so have to be careful who we choose.

penguinz 07-23-2023 12:52 PM

If you voted for Frank White you deserve this. Dumbasses would probably still vote for him if he runs again.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2023 04:28 PM

clown show

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Well, I received my documentation from my Sunshine Act request. I'll have to look up the 5 comps they listed but had to laugh at their picture used for my property.

Just 30' back up the road would have been a nice picture of my home, but they chose this instead. They gave my house a B- grade from viewing it from 300' away. I personally wouldn't hire an appraiser to determine my classic car's value by taking a picture of just the door handle from 20' away but that is what I equate this hilarious attempt to.

I was home on the date the picture was taken (8 2 2021) as I am most days. No attempt was made to contact me. None of us would have a job if we were this totally inept at our jobs. Pretty sad situation really. I hope everyone dealing with this gets the resolution they expect.
https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...yQ&oe=64C3CB66

Bowser 07-24-2023 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17027797)
If you voted for Frank White you deserve this. Dumbasses would probably still vote for him if he runs again.

As a politician, Frank White is one hell of a second baseman.

ToxSocks 07-24-2023 05:09 PM

Im not black like Frank White is
I am white like Frank Black is

Hammock Parties 07-24-2023 09:37 PM

oof

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#39;What is it based on?&#39;: Independence woman loses deal to sell home following property assessment <a href="https://t.co/3xpv9Ls22A">https://t.co/3xpv9Ls22A</a></p>&mdash; KMBC (@kmbc) <a href="https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1683665382966427649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Kim Clark’s sale of her home for $480,000 was scheduled to close in August.

However, when the buyer asked what the new Jackson County property valuation was for the home, Clark didn’t know because she didn’t get the required notice.

Her real estate agent found the county had valued the property at $660,600.

Clark and her agent checked.

There are no comparable homes or comps remotely close to that price range.
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Clark also wants to join a class action lawsuit Independence attorney Ken McClain filed.

In the petition for a jury trial, McClain claims there are tens of thousands of property owners like Clark who did not receive their updated property valuations by June 15 as required by Missouri law.

“Due to the lack of timely notice as mandated by statute, the increases in property valuations are illegal, unlawful and therefore void,” the lawsuit states.

Pablo 07-25-2023 08:12 AM

There's a $480k home somewhere in Independence?

That's the most surprising thing I see in the article.

Woogieman 07-25-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17029964)
There's a $480k home somewhere in Independence?

That's the most surprising thing I see in the article.

You have a lot of hate in your heart....what happened in your life?

Pablo 07-25-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17029982)
You have a lot of hate in your heart....what happened in your life?

You have a lot of queer in your posts....what happened in your life?

loochy 07-25-2023 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17029985)
You have a lot of queer in your posts....what happened in your life?


penises


lots of penises

Eureka 07-25-2023 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17029982)
You have a lot of hate in your heart....what happened in your life?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17029985)
You have a lot of queer in your posts....what happened in your life?

https://media3.giphy.com/media/l2SpU...giphy.gif&ct=g

007 08-04-2023 07:05 PM

Class action lawsuit filed over Jackson County assessments
 
https://twitter.com/Auditor_Fitz/sta...015483904?s=20

I use tapatalk so somebody feel free to embed this

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today, Auditor Fitzpatrick sent a letter to <a href="https://twitter.com/JacksonCountyMO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JacksonCountyMO</a> notifying the county of an initial review to investigate complaints made by Jackson County residents about the assessment process. <a href="https://t.co/86b6cT8zbz">pic.twitter.com/86b6cT8zbz</a></p>— Auditor Scott Fitzpatrick (@Auditor_Fitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/Auditor_Fitz/status/1687558710015483904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dunerdr 08-04-2023 07:52 PM

TL;DR did you guys win this or what?

Hammock Parties 09-09-2023 01:48 PM

Morons. ****ing morons.

Jackson County Assessment Department admits to data error affecting hundreds of taxpayers

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. (KCTV) - The Jackson County Tax Assessor’s Office has admitted to an error uncovered by KCTV5 Investigates weeks ago, just now releasing an action plan to address it.

KCTV5 Investigates has been reporting on hundreds of homes with the same value — $356,270 — since mid-August. Many of these homes are vastly different than one another. At least one was purchased for over $1 million.

Some properties were vacant lots. Most had been purchased in December for wildly different amounts, many around $100,000 to $150,000.

On Friday, the spokesperson for the assessor’s office sent an email regarding what they now admit is an error:

The Jackson County, Missouri, Assessor’s Office has successfully rectified a data error that caused multiple parcels to receive identical valuations. By Sunday, September 10, the assessed values of the majority of parcels that were mistakenly overvalued due to this input error will be corrected to reflect their fair market values.

In a statement, the Assessor’s Office acknowledged the issue, explaining “Earlier this year, we identified a formulaic error in our data that led to the duplication of property values. Once identified, we diligently worked to identify and correct all affected parcels. We are pleased to confirm that the values of these parcels have now been re-evaluated to accurately reflect their fair market values.”

Experts react

The county blames the error on a “formulaic error in our data that led to the duplication of property values.”

This error was first identified by Preston Smith, a data expert with more than 30 years of high-level data analysis experience.

“Shame on Jackson County for taking a month to dream up some lame excuse for $356,270,” said Smith. “Shame on them for trying to lie about the 500 parcels and the analysis. And shame on them for the problems this flawed assessment has caused every taxpayer in Jackson County. When this assessment is finally found illegal, they are going to owe us all a huge apology. They should start with a personal apology to every one of these 500 taxpayers. There is no defending this debacle.”

A mass appraisal expert we consulted agrees with Smith.

“It doesn’t matter how the ‘formulaic error made earlier this year’ happened, the issue is why there was no quality control to identify it before values were certified and notices sent,” said Marlene Jeffers.

Jeffers has 40 years of experience and says Jackson County’s assessment is the most troubling assessment she’s ever seen anywhere in the nation.

“That brings into question all the anomalies and obvious inequities that have come to light,” said Jeffers. “There would have been no quality control on those as well.”

Homeowners react


$356,270 was a crisis for some homeowners who did not catch the mistake in time to file an appeal.

Amanda Barron’s house was assessed at $356,270. She found out when KCTV5 alerted her to it in a phone call a couple of weeks ago.

“Oh, my Lord,” said Barron. “I only bought the home for $120,000.”


Barron currently works on an oil rig in Texas and didn’t see her assessment notice.

KCTV5 Investigates called and texted her to share the good news. She was worried about losing her home due to higher taxes and Jackson County not admitting to the error.

“Oh, my gosh! This is great,” said Amanda. “This gives me so much relief! This is amazing!”

KCTV5 continues to investigate assessment

KCTV5 Investigates continues to push for answers regarding this error. We sent more questions to the assessment department’s new PR firm now handling questions surrounding this troubled assessment.

We have repeatedly asked for an on-camera interview with assessment director Gail McCann Beatty. That request is continually deflected and was denied again on Friday.

We also asked for a response to our experts’ claim on the lack of quality control.

“The point of the appeal process is to review and correct errors,” said an assessment spokesperson. “This is not a perfect process. We will continue to review throughout the appeals process and correct errors as they are identified.”

Homeowners continue to notify our investigative department of problems regarding the appeals process. We’re reporting on concerns that true physical inspections did not take place and asking questions about whether this is a limited data error or just one example of a lack of quality control.

As part of our reporting process, we are sending crews to properties across the county to better understand data discrepancies.

Former assessment directors are working behind the scenes with KCTV5 to provide guidance and insight.

Troubled Assessment


The 54,000 appeals filed by Jackson County property owners shatter any previous record. There is a class-action lawsuit filed against the county questioning the inspections on the thousands of homes with assessments higher than 15 percent. Physical inspections will be one thing the state audit reviews.

“There are a lot of a lot of red flags and a lot of questions,” said Missouri State Auditor Scott Fitzpatrick. “Generally, there are things that need to be looked at. There are certainly concerns and I think that the people of Jackson County’s concerns are very valid.”

Fitzpatrick tells KCTV5 he understands the need to compress the timeline as much as possible. Tax bills go out in October and people are required to pay by Dec. 31. Fitzpatrick says any information uncovered will be quickly shared with the Legislature.

In the meantime, homeowners question the lack of response and accountability.

“Who are they responsible to? Frank White? What is Mr. White doing?” questioned John Welchert.

County downplays KCTV5′s accurate reporting

The County’s new PR firm, paid with your tax dollars, attempted to spin the error, downplaying what happened.

“It is important to emphasize that the number of properties impacted by this incident represents a very small fraction of all properties in Jackson County, Missouri. Assessing the fair market value of our nearly 300,000 parcels is a complex task involving software, human input, and extensive data. While we anticipated occasional errors in this process, we have been committed to promptly identifying and resolving them. Additionally, we have established a comprehensive appeals process that has proven effective for thousands of property owners in Jackson County.”

The statement originally claimed KCTV5 Investigates reporting was inaccurate. “Reports of more than 500 affected properties are unsubstantiated and stem from data submitted to Jackson County legislators in May before our data was certified, resulting in an inflated estimate.”

Five hours later, the county changed its tune after KCTV5 Investigates questioned the validity of their claim and demanded the county provide the exact number of properties affected by the data error. Eventually, the county PR spokesperson admitted the number affected was 550 parcels, which is directly in line with KCTV5′s original reporting. There was no explanation for why the original statement sent to KCTV5 was false.

Data expert, Preston Smith offered this response:

“It definitely was more than 500 parcels on the list valued at $356,270. I didn’t create those numbers or add those values inaccurately to the parcels. And if the County cannot count to 500, I will be glad to send them the list and help them,” said Smith.

Jackson County legislator Manny Abarca sent KCTV5 the following statement:

First, I must thank Angie Ricono and the KCTV5 team, as this correction likely would have not occurred without your all’s reporting. At no point since “the beginning of the year” has the Assessor, Tyler, nor any agent of the County admitted to realizing nor attempting to correct such an egregious and obvious error. This further eroded taxpayer confidence in this assessment process and calls to question what else may be hiding behind the curtain. The legislature has tried over and over again to verify actual raw data, hear real answers and validates the statements of the assessor and their crisis communication team; however, their obstructionist refusal has left us and taxpayers in the dark, leaving us with only information they want us to know. Because of this error and admission alone, the entire process should be thrown out and a level increase be issued in November to end the chaos and tax increase crisis and help curb impact to homeowners. The executive has the authority to throw out this error-filled assessment and it’s time for him to stop playing games and do what’s right and just, clearly within his authority under the law and charter!”

duncan_idaho 09-10-2023 10:46 PM

I had my assessment review Thursday. My comps and claim were accepted, and my market valuation was, too. Which was 39% less than what the county initially sent.

Chris Meck 09-11-2023 05:14 AM

I've somehow escaped the gouging.

Eureka 09-11-2023 10:28 AM

Below is a representation of what the county's newly hired PR team is trying to do....

https://i.imgflip.com/2/1cesd8.jpg

alpha_omega 09-11-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17098346)

So we're not mad at Angie Ricono any longer? Just checking.

Hammock Parties 09-12-2023 09:08 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jackson County Legislature rejects senior property tax relief measure by 8-1 vote <a href="https://t.co/gst9zeEHzi">https://t.co/gst9zeEHzi</a></p>&mdash; KMBC (@kmbc) <a href="https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1701404018310820339?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pablo 09-12-2023 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17104184)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jackson County Legislature rejects senior property tax relief measure by 8-1 vote <a href="https://t.co/gst9zeEHzi">https://t.co/gst9zeEHzi</a></p>&mdash; KMBC (@kmbc) <a href="https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1701404018310820339?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Did the people's champ Manny Arbaca have anything to say on this matter?

ToxSocks 09-12-2023 04:04 PM

Judging by the amount of Lions fans in the stands Thursday, these tax increases musta hit KC hard.

|Zach| 09-12-2023 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17105189)
Did the people's champ Manny Arbaca have anything to say on this matter?

He actually did but its a bad faith question you don't actually care to have the answer to.

Just because a bill exists does not make it good...if you can create a better bill you craft and vote for that one.

neech 09-12-2023 10:19 PM

I'm just guessing here but I would say 40 percent or more of homeowners in Jackson county would be able to get senior property tax relief if it did pass.

The county legislators knows that it would take a big hit in taxes down the road if they passed it.

neech 09-12-2023 10:50 PM

Jackson County: 50 percent of residents appealing property assessments not showing up for hearings

According to data from the Jackson County Board of Equalization, about half of the individuals who have appealed their property assessment are not showing up for their appointments.
Jackson County assessor Gail McCann Beatty said the county has been scheduling about 300 appeals a day.
Beatty said the county is working to complete as many appeals as possible before billing begins on October 13th.
"We are trying to get as many of them completed before we go down for billing," she said.

https://www.kmbc.com/article/jackson...g-up/45109286#

Why wouldn't you show up for the meeting to get your taxes lowered? That's just laziness and irresponsibility on the homeowners part.

Pablo 09-13-2023 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17105639)
He actually did but its a bad faith question you don't actually care to have the answer to.

Just because a bill exists does not make it good...if you can create a better bill you craft and vote for that one.

LMAO

You're right I just wanted to make fun of the people's champ! I'm sure he means a lot to you though.

duncan_idaho 09-13-2023 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by neech (Post 17105689)
Jackson County: 50 percent of residents appealing property assessments not showing up for hearings

According to data from the Jackson County Board of Equalization, about half of the individuals who have appealed their property assessment are not showing up for their appointments.
Jackson County assessor Gail McCann Beatty said the county has been scheduling about 300 appeals a day.
Beatty said the county is working to complete as many appeals as possible before billing begins on October 13th.
"We are trying to get as many of them completed before we go down for billing," she said.

https://www.kmbc.com/article/jackson...g-up/45109286#

Why wouldn't you show up for the meeting to get your taxes lowered? That's just laziness and irresponsibility on the homeowners part.

My guess would be... they're missing the email notifying them of their appointment.

Hammock Parties 12-18-2023 02:19 PM

SHOES

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Auditor Fitzpatrick believes the failure of the Jackson County Assessment Department to abide by the law should invalidate the increases in assessed valuation over 15 percent.<br><br>Read more about the preliminary results here: <a href="https://t.co/VDYoURXqqH">https://t.co/VDYoURXqqH</a></p>&mdash; Auditor Scott Fitzpatrick (@Auditor_Fitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/Auditor_Fitz/status/1736843255847805150?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

neech 08-07-2024 09:06 PM

One month isn't much time for Jackson County to fix this problem its the government, remember? This is hilarious.

State commission orders Jackson County to correct property value assessment

Jackson County is on the clock. It has 30 days to correct an untold number of property value assessments or they’ll be thrown out.

The order filed late Wednesday from the State Tax Commission cite multiple errors in the assessment process, which led to higher tax bills for thousands of people across the county.

The commission says the county did not physically inspect some properties. Those inspections are required when valuations increase 15%.

The order says the county did not notify property owners whose valuations went up that much and then made it hard, and in some cases, impossible for people to appeal their assessments.

Jackson County Executive Frank White Jr. is slamming the order, claiming it is both inaccurate and dangerously politicized.

https://fox4kc.com/news/state-commis...e-assessments/

phisherman 08-07-2024 09:31 PM

This is great. I just received an offer today from the county to reduce my 2023 assessment figure to a much more reasonable number but it was still over 15%. Looks like I might need to take a few days (more than 30) to consider their offer. :)

duncan_idaho 08-13-2024 02:18 PM

The State Tax Commission is overseen by Sec. of State's office. It's no coincidence that the day Bailey withdrew his lawsuit (because the County wanted to depose him, as part of his lawsuit, about illegal contact Bailey himself had with a Jackson County legislator) that tax commission issued these orders.

Part of the orders demand that every municipality that received "too much" from property taxes repay taxpayers for that.

Which sounds great and all (and is probably the right thing to do over time) but doesn't work for most municipalities.

That money has already been allocated and much of it has been spent - it's already in roads and equipment and salaries for police and fire and utility workers and other city employees.

Those orders are unlikely to stand as-is.

Jackson County bungled this. But the tax commission isn't "fixing" it. Just more "outside-KC area" oversight/slapping down on Jackson County and KC.

Hammock Parties 04-01-2025 11:58 AM

COMMUNISTS LOSE

https://scontent-ord5-2.xx.fbcdn.net...bA&oe=67F1ED84

notorious 04-01-2025 02:01 PM

I tell you what, property insurance companies and county appraisers/commission can go **** themselves with the Exxon Valdez.

Hammock Parties 04-03-2025 10:52 AM

Un ****ing believable. Jackson County is a bunch of totalitarian assholes.

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Potential Bad News! Yesterday, we received word that the Judge that oversaw one of the Jackson County Property Tax Assessment Cases ruled that the State Tax Commissioner's Order to Roll Back the 2023 property tax assessments was valid.

However, there was another case filed in 2024 by the State Tax Commission to force Jackson County to comply with their Order that was overseen by the same judge that issued yesterday's ruling. On November 20, 2024, this Judge ruled that the State Tax Commission cannot use the Courts to force the Jackson County Government to enforce the State Tax Commission's Order, due to the fact that the State Tax Commission litigated this same case in June/July/August that resulted in the case being dismissed with prejudice.

This means that while the April 1, 2025 Judgment states that the State Tax Commissioner's Order was a Valid Order, the November 20, 2024 Judgment holds that the Courts are unable to enforce the State Tax Commissioners Order.

This means that while the Court has found that the 2023 Property Tax Assessments were unlawful and the State Tax Commission was 100% in its rights to issue the Order to rollback the property assessments, SINCE the State Tax Commission previously filed the case against the Jackson County Government on the same facts and for the same relief that was tried in June/July/August and dismissed with prejudice for the same/similar relief, the State Tax Commission cannot ask the Court to force the Jackson County Government to roll back the property taxes.

The November 20, 2024 case is currently being appealed and is in the Western District Court of Appeals hands. If they affirm the Judge's findings in the November 20, 2024 case, then Jackson County Property Owners may not get their property taxes rolled back as the Courts would be unable to force the Jackson County Government to comply with the State Tax Commission's Order.

I know this is very confusing. I might have to try my best to break this down in a Let's Talk Jackson. I hope my analysis is wrong. Stay tuned and be well.


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