Obviously we cannot afford him. And I would still take Scutaro over Bentencourt and Jacobs at this point. And whoever else Dayton said we would not be able to keep if we signed him.

I would take scutaro over betencourt, and Jacobs too. But I would most definitely take Betencourt, and Jacobs over TPJ.

LMAO what other allstars?

This sounds crazy, but I wouldn't; TPJ makes far less.

All three are completely worthless, so why not take the less expensive option, the cheaper shit sandwich?

Damn those pesky walks. Go ahead and get that out of your system. I can't wait until we have our star-studded left side of the infield with Gordon/Betancourt. Two of the most highly regarded players in baseball ------ 2 years ago.

Gordon i think has 12 walks in like 34 ab's in AA...crazy OPS...im trying to find something positive and hope the time off has helped him in a way.

According to DM Betancourt was even higher rankde than gordonROFL

If I was an owner and agreed to double my payroll for a GM and didn't see any improvement from it I'd think "**** this I'm just wasting my money".

We need the Cubes! Mark Cuban would turn us around!

Sure. ****, I'd give the franchise over to the "Can I get a down payment on a Cheeseburger?" guy.

I think it's been proven now Dayton Moore is every bit as bad if not worse than Baird, he's allowed to spend more money and he's not getting any better results.

He's significantly better than Baird with reshaping how the organization does work in the minors and internationally. But with respect to building the major league club, you have a point.

We'll see if those changes in the minors pay dividends but as of right now the best player on the Royals roster was drafted by Baird.

That makes sense to me. There shouldn't be an expectation for any of Moore's picks to be at the major league level yet anyway.

Don't feel too bad, guys. I'm a Jays fan. There is no more unfortunate situation than the one I'm stuck in. Try to imagine what trading Zach Greinke would feel like after he dominated baseball for 8 years. That's what I'm feeling right now. After lying to us for over a year about 2010 being a contending year, our owners have pulled the plug and decided to cut payroll down to 60-70M. Because of terrible contracts given out to Vernon Wells and BJ Ryan, this payroll slashing has resulted in the best pitcher in baseball and the city's favorite player being put on the trade block (though for a year they had said we would re-sign him). We've went from a possible contender next year to...well I don't even know what we are doing...we aren't even rebuilding. And it comes at a time when some of this current administration's draft picks were actually starting to make a difference. Basically, the owners have ****ed over the fans again. Just like the Royals, it's clear that they only care about making a profit, and not building a winning baseball team.

In addition, we also play in the AL East. That means unless the Jays produce a top 2 team in baseball, they won't make the playoffs (they were probably a top 5 team last year, but it didn't get them anywhere with the Red Sox, Yankees, and Rays in the division). So is rebuilding really going to do anything unless they do it perfectly? I think I'd rather wallow in mediocrity with Roy Halladay than without him.

Rant over....but let's just say that you guys aren't the only ones being ****ed over by the poor owners in this league. But of course my team isn't also making trades for terrible players like Mike Jacobs and Yhency Betancourt and signing guys like Jose Guillen and Kyle Farnsworth to overpriced deals....I'd probably be losing my mind and giving up on the team if Ricciardi did that.

Anyway, in regard to Halladay getting the AS start...well I think he kind of deserves it when you consider he's probably been the best pitcher in baseball over the last few years and has never gotten the start (he was hit by a line drive that broke his leg in 2005 three days before the All-Star break during his best season). Greinke deserves it too, though, with his great numbers. Both will be frontrunners for the Cy Young (if Halladay stays, of course).

And Scutaro...well he's a great defensive SS, but he's also 34 years old and likely to be a Type A free agent based on what he's done this year. That means the team signing him will have to give up the team their 1st round pick. Is that worth it for a team like the Royals? I'd prefer that the Jays not re-sign him, even though they have no in-house replacement. I expect him to regress and don't think the decent-sized contract would be worth it.

If you look over some of these moves, the trades especially Moore isn't on the winning side.

I know we say that but we passed on Lincecum for Hochevar...Gordon Beckham is up already...

Maybe Moore wins the Hosmer thing I'm not going to jump up and down about that but so far his track record is not shining.