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Messier 01-02-2013 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9269428)
I've been telling you Dave, don't shrug off the fact that Pioli is still around as being meaningless. You just might get that link you asked me to provide for you last week before the season ended...
Again, why not say Pioli will be back when the question was plainly asked? Hunt is planning for Pioli to be gone. Why he isn't I don't know. But when your answer to, will Pioli be back as GM? is, there are still changes to be made, it doesn't sound good for Pioli.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9269433)
Too late already happened...
And people say I'm negative...

Holy shit.

I want the guy fired too, but I'm not going to ignore common sense either.

It's easy to say, "hey, Clark - admit you ****ed up and fire the guy, it's just money."

There's not a person here that wouldn't try to limit the financial damages before making a move like this.

Marcellus 01-02-2013 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269444)
And people say I'm negative...

Holy shit.

I want the guy fired too, but I'm not going to ignore common sense either.

It's easy to say, "hey, Clark - admit you ****ed up and fire the guy, it's just money."

There's not a person here that wouldn't try to limit the financial damages before making a move like this.
If I understand correctly because of the buy out clause it cost $5MM to keep him and $7.5MM to fire him?

If I heard that right, and thats the case, I would let him sit in the corner sucking his thumb before I pay him an extra $2.5MM to fire him and let him go get another job.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2013 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269427)
Dude, they could sign Alex Smith to compete with Kolb, take Joeckel at 8 or 9, then grab the best running back in the 2nd round, a guard in the third, a TE in the 4th, another guard in the 5th, another RB in the 6th and sign a starter here or there for their offensive line.

That is MUCH easier than finding a ****ing true Nose Tackle, starters and depth at the 5 tech, a starting safety opposite Berry, a starting ILB next to DJ (who IS aging, BTW), possibly a #1 receiver and definitely a #2 receiver, a reliable TE, etc. AND a franchise QB.

I've watched Arizona on many occasions and I'm actually shocked they fired Whiz. He's put competitive teams on the field with freaking five different QB's. Rod Graves failed Arizona IMO, not Whiz.

And they're closer than you'd think.
The Chiefs could tag Bowe, re-sign Albert, Sign Alex Smith to compete with Quinn, draft a CB in the 2nd, a SS in the 3rd, an 3-4DE or 4-3 OLB in the 4th, an ILB in the 4th as well with their Carr pick, a TE in the 5th and STILL have their first rounder to use on Geno if that's the route they so chose.

Yes, it is absolutely that easy for this team. When you just say "look - this is what the Cardinals could do" I can easily counter with "Look - this is what the Chiefs could do" and get to the same result.

They're in the exact same damn spot. You're just passing off the Cardinals problems as having easy solutions but in reality, many of the Chiefs problems aren't any different.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9269435)
Who is doing this? This is a message board, and we're discussing news. This is exactly what someone tried to pull on htimsqquuae earlier today, and he had to explain that he wasn't worked up at all. Just "talking."
You've been here long enough to know which posters are "just talking" and which posters are shitting their pants.

-King- 01-02-2013 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9269450)
The Chiefs could tag Bowe, re-sign Albert, Sign Alex Smith to compete with Quinn, draft a CB in the 2nd, a SS in the 3rd, an 3-4DE or 4-3 OLB in the 4th, an ILB in the 4th as well with their Carr pick, a TE in the 5th and STILL have their first rounder to use on Geno if that's the route they so chose.

Yes, it is absolutely that easy for this team. When you just say "look - this is what the Cardinals could do" I can easily counter with "Look - this is what the Chiefs could do" and get to the same result.

They're in the exact same damn spot. You're just passing off the Cardinals problems as having easy solutions but in reality, many of the Chiefs problems aren't any different.
:clap:

ToxSocks 01-02-2013 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269427)
Dude, they could sign Alex Smith to compete with Kolb, take Joeckel at 8 or 9, then grab the best running back in the 2nd round, a guard in the third, a TE in the 4th, another guard in the 5th, another RB in the 6th and sign a starter here or there for their offensive line.

That is MUCH easier than finding a ****ing true Nose Tackle, starters and depth at the 5 tech, a starting safety opposite Berry, a starting ILB next to DJ (who IS aging, BTW), possibly a #1 receiver and definitely a #2 receiver, a reliable TE, etc. AND a franchise QB.

I've watched Arizona on many occasions and I'm actually shocked they fired Whiz. He's put competitive teams on the field with freaking five different QB's. Rod Graves failed Arizona IMO, not Whiz.

And they're closer than you'd think.
If the Cards are closer than we think, than the Chiefs are closer than you think. We have a True Nose Tackle, Poe actually did quite well for a rookie, adn only stand to get better. Why are you dismissing that?

Why are you dismissing Kendrick Lewis, who is marginal, but not noting Marginal Cardinals players?

You keep saying the Cards QB situation is easy to fix, but the Chief's isnt? The same options are available to both clubs, except we'll be in a better position come draft time.

You mention how DJ is "aging" but make no mention on how the Cardinals players (Adrian Wilson???) are aging.

LT's are easy to find now?

5th round OL prospects are "Fixes" now?

Dane, this has "grass is always greener" written all over it.

These are two teams in very similar positions.

One is not "clearly" in a better position than the other.

Mother****erJones 01-02-2013 04:06 PM
That would be funny if Clark brought him to atlanta to talk to Dmitroff for an opening

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9269449)
If I understand correctly because of the buy out clause it cost $5MM to keep him and $7.5MM to fire him?

If I heard that right, and thats the case, I would let him sit in the corner sucking his thumb before I pay him an extra $2.5MM to fire him and let him go get another job.
Report today that an extension was signed back in June or July - so we're talking potentially another 2-3 years at anywhere between $5-8M per.

We could be talking about $20M+

bricks 01-02-2013 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9267272)
I just saw it on his Facebook status...
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269308)
The Chiefs have a number of holes that can't be filled in one offseason. Their defense is in major flux and they need help not only on the defensive line but ILB and safety. They have issues at WR, LT, QB and TE and need depth everywhere.

Arizona's defense has played well. There's no question about their scheme. The help they need, outside of QB, can be easily upgraded in the draft. They're much closer to competing.

The 2013 Chiefs are the 2008 Chiefs before the draft. What happens this April will have a huge impact over the next four years. They're teetering on the brink of being irrelevant for four more years if they **** up.
Arizona is not much closer to competing. Both teams are pretty equal as far as talent goes. The difference between the Chiefs and Cardinals was coaching. Plain and simple. Chiefs just happened to have the black version of Rich Kotite coaching them. I'm glad Romeo is gone. He was as disastrous it could get as far as coaching goes.

TLO 01-02-2013 04:06 PM
On ESPN they just said somebody believes there is a 95 percent chance that he will end up in Arizona. I don't know who was reporting it.

Chief Roundup 01-02-2013 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9269450)
The Chiefs could tag Bowe, re-sign Albert, Sign Alex Smith to compete with Quinn, draft a CB in the 2nd, a SS in the 3rd, an 3-4DE or 4-3 OLB in the 4th, an ILB in the 4th as well with their Carr pick, a TE in the 5th and STILL have their first rounder to use on Geno if that's the route they so chose.

Yes, it is absolutely that easy for this team. When you just say "look - this is what the Cardinals could do" I can easily counter with "Look - this is what the Chiefs could do" and get to the same result.

They're in the exact same damn spot. You're just passing off the Cardinals problems as having easy solutions but in reality, many of the Chiefs problems aren't any different.
This.

Some people think that Chiefs players suck while every other teams players are good.

Mother****erJones 01-02-2013 04:07 PM
Add the coaching staff to the 20 m

Marcellus 01-02-2013 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269459)
Report today that an extension was signed back in June or July - so we're talking potentially another 2-3 years at anywhere between $5-8M per.

We could be talking about $20M+
Mother****er, I hadn't heard that. Clark has to be pissed at himself.

The Bad Guy 01-02-2013 04:07 PM
How are they signing Smith?

He's not going to be traded in division.

I also think Poe is going to be a fine NT.


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