This one is more destroyed vag.

They're an awful team who played way above their heads in a single, 40 minute game. It happens all the time in this tournament and it's why it's quite a bad way to decide a champion.

I think this one was because MU just didn't want to play defense.

Yeah that was it. They didn't want to play defense.

Moron.

Sure looked like it to me. There was a ton of un-contested shots. I think most people agree, either MU didn't want to play defense or they did something just as bad, they overlooked Norfolk State. Either way Haith didn't have them prepared.

They didn't play good defense, true. But to say that they didn't want to is moronic. And yes, they probably bought into the hype and overlooked them. Shame on them and Haith.

So Haith, the guy who let it happen still has your support Dartgod?

Internet message board fannnnnnn

Why not? Despite the tournament disappointment, he accomplished much, much more with this team than I expected. I'll wait to see what he can do the next couple of years once he starts getting some of his own guys in the mix.

I think that there is some serious "The U" trouble coming for Haith this offseason.

It's both (except I don't agree with the "didn't want to"). Norfolk shot WAY above their average (everything they threw up was dropping) and we weren't playing a lick of defense. I can understand them outplaying us in the paint, but you can't tell me that their guards are quicker or better than ours. Hard to explain why our defense sucked so bad.

I'm going with this:

Over the frequent flyer miles thing? The Nevin Shapiro stuff is six months in the past and pretty clearly not valid/provable at this point. DaQuan Jones played this year, with the approval of the NCAA. That's the major allegation.

But who knows, with the NCAA. His supposed infractions/the infractions of his staff pale in comparison to things that have gotten nothing more than a slap on the wrist in the past.

The NCAA has been digging a long time and found, apparently, jack shit.

I have been away all weekend, had not had a chance to post, so I want to post this.....
I am not dissapointed in the way we played, we played very well...Norfolk would have beaten ANYBODY( Kentucky, OSU, N. Carolina, KU...ANYBODY) that game...they were shooting lights out and grabbin good boards...That's all I'm going to say.

I'm not disappointed in the way our OFFENSE played, but our defense gave up tons of open looks.

We usually do unfortunately.

A big part of that is a product of playing without a second big man on the floor most of the time. Causes the need for double teams on the block, which creates a need for rotations, etc. Good ball movement should generate an open look MOST of the time in that situation.

O'Quinn playing out of his mind and hitting circus shots underneath forced double on him as well.

O played great, as it has all year. D played at a disadvantage, as it did all year.

More traditional look next year should help quite a bit on defense. If Bowers has a complete recovery, shouldn't be much of a drop-off from that spot offensively (less 3-point shooting, better finishing at the rim/offensive rebounding options). And having a long, lean shot blocker at the spot should help quite a bit.

Ross should be a pretty strong rebounder out of the 3 spot, too. He's big, and thick.

Only question is if Criswell/Rosburg/Feldman/Jankovic can give them solid D and rebounding at the 5 spot.

I'll admit I'm a basketball n00b when it comes to strategy, defenses, etc.

So given that, I see people referring to the 1, 2, 5... a lot. Can you break down what all those numbers mean and how it applies to Mizzou this year and going forward?

1 = point guard
2 = shooting guard
3 = college generally called the “wing”, NBA more referred to as “small forward” (mix of a guard and a forward)
4 = power forward
5 = center

Mizzou and Florida both scored the exact same number of points against Norfolk State, 84 points.

Florida won by 34 points, Mizzou lost by 2.

The difference?
3 point shooting:
Norfolk vs. Mizzou: 10 for 19, 30 points.
Norfolk vs. Florida: 4 for 24, 12 points.

And, Kim English only scored two points. He couldn't walk the walk.

Thanks. I should have Googled it myself. But still curious how our current lineup fits in to that since all we have are guards and Ratliff.

Easy. 4 Guards and 1 Forward.

Right, but who's at what number?

P. Pressey at the 1 I would assume and Ratliff at the 5?

Or are they all 1's and 2's?

Is this somewhat correct?

1: P. Pressey
2: Denmon
3: M. Pressey?
4: English
5: Ratliff

If they could close the deal on Pollard, it should allow them to have a hyper-athletic 4 in Pollard with decent size (unlike English) with Bowers playing a slightly undersized 5.

If Dixon can repeat the year he had this year as the starting 2, it would give them an evolutionary version of this year's squad, just much younger.

But we didn't close the deal on Pollard when he came and then pissed down our legs in the tourney. Once again, I think the dream is dead there.

You nailed it.

The 2 and 3 are generally interchangeable in college, though the elite schools usually land elite players at the 3 (Harrison Barnes is an example).

So when Dixon comes in for Matt Pressey, we basically have two 2's on the floor (Denmon & Dixon)?

I don't think the dream is dead on Pollard. He did visit just a week ago on his own dime (and he still hasn't tripped to Georgetown or Kentucky). If Miss. State hires the Georgetown assistant who's recruiting him (George Kirby - was at MSU previously), he's going to MSU.

Not sure there's room for him at Kentucky - they have already signed Alex Polythress.

I could see them going with a Bowers/Pollard frontline in some situations, but I just don't see that Bowers defending the 5 against true centers. Not bulky enough.

I'd like Pollard a LOT as Bowers' backup. Then you just need one guy out of Criswell/Rosburg/Jankovic to give you good minutes, and you're solid up front (and much better than this year).

We know next year's squad will have the same great point guard play and a dynamic scoring combo guard (Dixon). It will also be much bigger, deeper and more athletic.

The questions are: How does the chemistry work out (some good reports there, but you have to see it to believe it, right?)? What do you get from the transfers (They really need Brown to be a 3-point sniper, and Bell/Ross to be more efficient as pieces than they were as "the man.")

It's kind of weird to think about the potential Pressey/Bell/Ross/Pollard/Bowers lineup. Would be just CRAZILY athletic (4 guys with 40" verticals, plus Bowers).

Yeah. Denmon rebounds really well for his size (he's really about 6'1"), but it's a really tough matchup for him.

You might have noticed how guys like Khris Middleton, LeBryan Nash, Bazemore from ODU, just diced Mizzou up this year? Those guys are true SF/3 types, and Missouri didn't have anyone with the height to really bother their shots.

Cool. Thanks for the edumacation.

MISSOURI'S HAITH WINS 2011-12
HENRY IBA COACH OF THE YEAR AWARD

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In before "Hang a banner!" /kufan

MU got complacent, this is true. But they didn't cause Norfolk to hit all those shots that they usually miss. If Norfolk played to their normal level, MU would have won easily.

I was traveling most of the weekend, so missed all of Friday through Sunday's games.

Norfolk State? Really? ROFL That is right in the fine Norm Stewart tradition of first round flame outs, he would be very proud.

Good luck with the SEC Murons!

MU shot very well, and they gave Norfolk wide open looks, just like KU did in the first half with Purdue.


KU adjusted, MU did not.

It didn't hurt that Purdue went full reerun in the final minute or so.

LMAO

No kidding. It was stunning. They suddenly decided to run KSU's offense.

Haha. ROFL

I guess the NCAA was doing a documentary on MU's run to the Final Four.

http://www.ncaa.com/video/basketball...l-episode-five

It's a pretty short documentary.

I'm happy that you can find such joy in other people's pain. Congrat's :thumb:

:hmmm:Interdasting

****ing dicks

It's fun to laugh at heartbroken kids!

LMAO

Even moreso at HAARP boy.

Teedubya? What's he got to do with this?

:spock:

He posted the tripe to begin with.

D'oh! That's right. I forgot that he was Ari before he was teedubya. I didn't even realize he had changed back.

The douchieness level is unmistakable.

I didn't get the feeling any of the MU players were heartbroken. Stunned, but not heart broken. Life goes on for them.

Simmer down princess...:D

Haith got robbed for COY over Self.

Time for a new Mizzou thread. Season is over.

Hey MU that's how it's done.

Thank you KU, for spending all your money and time in the great state of MISSOURI.

:)

A trophy that matters.
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Norfolk St. > UNC?

In your heads. Forever.

Mizzou fans = Charger fans

BY THAT FORMULA

Kansas fans = Bronco fans

been saying that one for a long while :shrug:

Hey now, we're all Chiefs fans here goddamnit.

I can relish KU for the time being; but I'm going to wallow in a sea of depression with all of you assholes when the Chiefs take the field.

Nope, the Norfolk loss still hasn't stopped being hilarious yet. We may never again see a greater example of the crapshoot that is the NCAA tournament than that game.
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Never forget the Bradnell shirts

A note to all KU fans. Stop. The Mizzou fans know who they are, where they are at, and they are aware of current events. Stop rubbing their noses in it. Please. Grandstanding serves no purpose.

I think that loss probably wouldn't have hurt so bad for them if Norfolk would've went on to do some damage in the tournament. I know it would've helped me. That's March for you though.

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BS.

If not for shouting in the face of your rivals there is no point to sport.


SCREAM over the corpse of your foe and enjoy every minute.






I would...:mizzou:

Missouri and Kansas are now former conference opponents, and since Kansas doesn't want to schedule Missouri any longer, there isn't any reason for one school to judge itself according to the other.

Missouri has a bright athletic future ahead in arguably the nation's premier athletic conference, there will be new rivalries and challenges and history to write.

MU/KU belongs in the 1900s. Leave it there. The future is bright.

Is it football season yet?

Can't wait to not win a BCS bowl?

“The greatest happiness is to scatter your enemy, to drive him before you, to see his cities reduced to ashes, to see those who love him shrouded in tears, and to gather into your bosom his wives and daughters.”

*sigh* Really? Do we have to do this?

Can't wait to not make a bowl game?

CHARLIE WEIS BABY!!!! WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

How about...can't wait to maybe win a conference game?

Missouri is NOT a football school . I have no clue why MU keeps saying it is , when its not. A football school wins its conference at least ONCE. A football school has a national title at some point and time in its history. A football school has an NFL hall of famer...or at least more than a certain basketball school does. A football school has a BCS bowl win or appearance. Missouri is not a football school, has not been a football school and moving to the SEC wont make them a football school. Yes Missouri has had a successful decade . Yes MU has put a few guys into the NFL , and yes you have beaten KU...but that does not make you a football school. When I think of footballs schools I think of successful schools , who have won their conference, won a BCS bowl ...MU hasn't done that.