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DJ's left nut 12-31-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9260021)
Clark mentioned how there are HC's with personnel experience and how college coaches don't have that type of experience. He followed that up saying he wants the HC to be "flexible" in terms of being on the same reporting level as the GM and having some personnel experience.

Based on those statements it sounds like Clark is eliminating the hire of a college coach.

I must've missed the part where he said that college coaches don't have that experience (my feed did clip out for about 20 seconds).

Yeah, he said that certain coaches, by virtue of their experience, have some knowledge of personnel matters and that they will sometimes have a bit of a claim to personnel decisions, but I never heard him say that college coaches wouldn't be considered.

Either you're editorializing and inserting the paraphrase you thought you heard, or my feed cut out at an inopportune time.

htismaqe 12-31-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9260210)
I personally don't like any of them, it's hard to see Billick as anything but a conservative game caller in a pass happy superbowl winning league.

Brian Billick was trying to win with a "best of all time" defense and Trent Dilfer at QB. That shows adaptability.

I will repeat - he was the OC of the 1998 Minnesota Vikings when they set the single-season scoring record. He's FAR from conservative when he has the right weapons to work with.

mcaj22 12-31-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9260221)
Why? Pay him or take him to court.. Now that he's been given the information I'm not sure he has a leg to stand on in terms of these guys who failed under Pioli at least wanting the rest of their contracts' money.

Just pay it and move into the future. Get rid of all these loose ends..

It's bad business, it makes Clark look bad. Clark doesnt like to look bad, and clearly blames Scooter for that.

HENCE THE CHANGE IN STRUCTURE. He doesnt want another Todd Haley/Pioli mess that leaves Clark looking like the bad guy.

That's what Clark essentially said, had Haley reported to Clark, things might be different today.

O.city 12-31-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9260223)
Tell me about how much he wants a 1st round QB.

Then tell me about the rabbits.

Well, whoever comes here is bascially backed into that corner.

OnTheWarpath15 12-31-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9260210)
I personally don't like any of them, it's hard to see Billick as anything but a conservative game caller in a pass happy superbowl winning league.

Um.

Billick was the OC of one of the most prolific offenses in NFL history.

He was pass happy before the rest of the league decided to follow suit.

Easy 6 12-31-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9260218)
Both will require a lot of cash and control. Clark on a mission.

Billick was blessed with a great array of skill players in minny and they played like it, fine.

He was blessed with a great defense in baltimore and they played like it, fine.

But how much of that super bowl team did HE actually put together, and how much of it was Newsome? Pretty sure Newsome was the primary builder of that team.

mcaj22 12-31-2012 02:46 PM

Brian Billick will at least draft BPA, and most of the time BPA is how most people around here draft on draft day, because it makes sense.

had Pioli drafted BPA the last 4 years we would be stacked lol

Sometimes you bust out drafting BPA, but you wont bust out and fail as bad as the Scooter Pioli 10 step ego process leadership/midget/TE/lineman drafting script strategy does.

Imon Yourside 12-31-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9260236)
Brian Billick was trying to win with a "best of all time" defense and Trent Dilfer at QB. That shows adaptability.

I will repeat - he was the OC of the 1998 Minnesota Vikings when they set the single-season scoring record. He's FAR from conservative when he has the right weapons to work with.

I'm not sure you are getting what I am saying. I want someone new with a fire and something to prove. Billick and Cowher would probably view it as a reunion tour to make some cash and if I win great..if not I made some money.

Coogs 12-31-2012 02:47 PM

That was a very good interview on both parts. Good questions were asked... not just softball questions that stayed with the task at hand. And good answers from Clark. Answers he could have choose to ignor but didn't.

I feel good about the direction this team is headed.

Easy 6 12-31-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9260236)
Brian Billick was trying to win with a "best of all time" defense and Trent Dilfer at QB. That shows adaptability.

I will repeat - he was the OC of the 1998 Minnesota Vikings when they set the single-season scoring record. He's FAR from conservative when he has the right weapons to work with.

Nice post, i'm more than willing to listen to solid arguments for the guy.

He's just not a top pick for me at this point.

Not saying i couldnt be swayed, though.

GloryDayz 12-31-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9260238)
It's bad business, it makes Clark look bad. Clark doesnt like to look bad, and clearly blames Scooter for that.

HENCE THE CHANGE IN STRUCTURE. He doesnt want another Todd Haley/Pioli mess that leaves Clark looking like the bad guy.

That's what Clark essentially said, had Haley reported to Clark, things might be different today.

Well he got fired and had years left on his contract, so I doubt it's one-for-one because he was rehired, but I also don't think it ends there. It's business. Just have the lawyers dig into it, tell him how much it'll cost him, pay it and move on. If he never pays him and Todd makes it more public than now he will look bad, if he just pays him a negotiated price, or takes it to court for a judge to decide, then he just looks like a business man. I say the latter is far more preferable.

The Bad Guy 12-31-2012 02:50 PM

Latest email I got is that Clark isn't ****ing around, which is obvious from interviews. I've been out most of the day, but the email came in before Clark went on the air.

The directive is no one from the football operations side is to speak until their final notice has been given either with a termination or a return.

Clark is trying to force Pioli's hand and have him quit. Clark had a heated discussion with Scott this morning according to this email. Clark told him he won't have any say in this head coach because "this head coach will be here longer than you will".

Then there's this piece of info. Clark talked with Peyton Manning at length Sunday night. He wanted to know why the Chiefs weren't considered and everything Peyton said pointed the finger squarely on Pioli. Said Pioli's rep across the league is terrible. His inability to foster a "team" environment instead of one ruled like a dictator was huge too.

This really pissed Clark off. I said in a previous post that the loss could have triggered all of this, but it's apparent the PM discussion could have as well.

I'm completely shocked to say the least. Everything, and I mean everything, I've been told paints Clark as someone with a school boy crush on Pioli.

Clark wants to make a splash. He also wants to save the money from just firing Pioli. With all the lawsuits that former employees have pending against the Chiefs that list Pioli, Clark may have a case to fire him with definite cause.

Source said that Clark changed overnight toward Pioli.

Take it for what it's worth.

dirk digler 12-31-2012 02:51 PM

So if I have been reading this right the Steelers have the same type of organizational structure that Clark is now changing too? Might not be too bad of an idea...

DeezNutz 12-31-2012 02:51 PM

I'm sorry, but I really don't want Billick. No ****ing thank you. Underperforming, no QB-having **** whose success was too often schedule driven.

In other words, he sounds like perfect KC material.

Imon Yourside 12-31-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9260271)
Latest email I got is that Clark isn't ****ing around, which is obvious from interviews. I've been out most of the day, but the email came in before Clark went on the air.

The directive is no one from the football operations side is to speak until their final notice has been given either with a termination or a return.

Clark is trying to force Pioli's hand and have him quit. Clark had a heated discussion with Scott this morning according to this email. Clark told him he won't have any say in this head coach because "this head coach will be here longer than you will".

Then there's this piece of info. Clark talked with Peyton Manning at length Sunday night. He wanted to know why the Chiefs weren't considered and everything Peyton said pointed the finger squarely on Pioli. Said Pioli's rep across the league is terrible. His inability to foster a "team" environment instead of one ruled like a dictator was huge too.

This really pissed Clark off. I said in a previous post that the loss could have triggered all of this, but it's apparent the PM discussion could have as well.

I'm completely shocked to say the least. Everything, and I mean everything, I've been told paints Clark as someone with a school boy crush on Pioli.

Clark wants to make a splash. He also wants to save the money from just firing Pioli. With all the lawsuits that former employees have pending against the Chiefs that list Pioli, Clark may have a case to fire him with definite cause.

Source said that Clark changed overnight toward Pioli.

Take it for what it's worth.

I'll take it as wishful thinking if nothing else...drools...... :D


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