I know these are sarcastic remarks being posted, but I'd just like to point out that even if Clark invested in his team like a smart owner and risked "cap hell", that doesn't make him Daniel Snyder. The Chiefs would be spending their money on their own franchise players and free agents. They have a history with these players, know their strengths, and know how the fit in with the team chemistry and vision. The only difference is they're receiving more money.

Daniel Snyder goes out and spends big money on guys who probably don't even fit the team's system or vision. Sometimes they do, but that's the risk with signing outside free agents. It takes time to acclimate them to the system.

Going into "cap hell" for Bowe is very different from going into "cap hell" for Albert Haynesworth.

I'll say $90m.

There's always the matter of the guarantee though.
If it were me, my final offer would be something closer to $80m.

That sound like a fair number to you?

Bottomline, there is absolutely no reason to not have signed Bowe long-term, besides being cheap. The Hunts are misers.

So that means a guaranteed amount of 36-45. So what's the problem again?

Really? Seriously?

"We" don't need to "know" the numbers. The end result gives anyone and everyone a clear picture. There's no way that Dwayne Bowe was offered a competitive market value offer that included a reasonable guaranteed portion, yet he declined to sign it.


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You're missing the point. The Chiefs can't say "Well, we didn't pay Carr because we need to pay Bowe", then NOT pay either. They then can't come back and say "Well, we didn't pay Bowe because we needed to pay Albert & Dorsey" with a straight face.

Furthermore, WR's, even first round WR's, generally take a while to develop (if they develop, at all). Bowe's been a solid contributor since his rookie season. Why let that guy go, especially when you're sitting at $16 million under the cap?

Of course it's awful, which is why that teams will be required to spend 99% of the salary cap in future years. And probably why Clark Hunt decided NOT to pay Bowe: More money in his pocket, which IMO, hurts the team and the fans.

Bad decision? What in Dwayne Bowe's past would lead to believe that paying him market value or even slightly above would result in hurting an NFL team?

To the first part, he was ranked as a Top Ten potential free agent but no where was it suggested he'd sign a $50 million dollar deal with $26.5 in guarantees. To the latter, that's unfounded speculation on your part.

Again, that's speculation, so let's deal with what we DO know: Both sides negotiated but couldn't come to an agreement. The Chiefs are willing to pay him the Franchise number, but aren't willing to sign him long term at this point. Bowe has never stated that he wanted out of Kansas City - quite to the contrary. At the Nike Event, he praised Crennel and, IIRC, said he wanted to end his career in KC.

All public indications are that he doesn't want out.

$40-$45. Thereabouts.
Would probably make him one of the three or four highest paid WR's in the NFL.
Think he belongs in that group?

I wouldn't really blame Clark.

Pioli is a slave to the Patriot Way, and probably told Clark he doesn't need Bowe.

My perceptions of a fair number is irrelevant. That's up to Dwayne Bowe and the Chiefs organization.

After witnessing the salary cap in action over the past 20 years, I'm of the belief that it's irrelevant and a "phantom" cap, as we've seen teams like the Cowboys, Eagles, Redskins, et all, spend enormous amounts of money without being penalized from a financial standpoint or a league standpoint (save from the bogus "Gentleman's agreement" in 2010, which stopped neither team from enormous amounts of spending this off season).

Given his overall body of work and relative worth to the Chiefs? Absolutely.

It's beyond funny for me to read that fans would pay 35 but wouldn't go 40, as if this has any bearing whatsoever for what the organization would be able to do going forward.

Now it's probably time for one of Clark's financial analysts to ask something like, "So you're willing to give Bowe $88M guaranteed?"

Regardless of the value of the contract, I'm absolutely certain that as a free agent, he'd be paid in the Top Five of all WR's. Again, considering the 2014 salary cap, he wouldn't stay in the Top Five for long, but he'd sit there for a while.

Clark is the only person to blame, IMO.

Yep.

I've heard it extrapolated out to maybe someday NFL games being solely a televised event, no fans there. I don't ever think that happens but I could see smaller stadiums, more cameras ect.

Well, he did HIRE Pioli, so yeah.

And he could just tell him to ****ing get it done, but I'm sure he wants to give Scott his room, since he knows Scott is a big boy and can handle responsibility.