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siberian khatru 05-27-2016 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12248301)
I've been thinking about what, exactly, the Royals would look like if they stay in it this year and make the playoffs again.

I'll start with the lineup.

I think Brett Eibner is someone who could have some really significant instant success at the MLB level... He has a lot of raw power and knows how to pick his pitch and put a swing with good loft on it. I wouldn't be surprised to see him start really hot, but I don't think he can sustain it long-term. KC needs Dyson/Orlando to continue to hit and Lorenzo Cain to continue his return to 2015 form. If all those things happen, the y may survive until Gordon is back and healthy.

Ultimately, I think Eibner's lack of contact will keep him from being an everyday guy, but I could see him being something similar to Randal Grichuk in St Louis, though not quite that good.

Or maybe more like Jeremy Hazelbaker, an older guy who gets off to a hot start and fades.

C3HIEF3S 05-27-2016 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12248331)
Hey guys - sorry if it's been mentioned - but any word as to when they'll make up Thursday's game?

The only thing we know (I think) is just that it won't be made up this weekend.

KevB 05-27-2016 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 12248322)
This right here. Let's just enjoy our victory lap. If we make the playoffs again, it will be great. If not, we can just pop in the 2015 highlight reels.

Yep, and I just really hope we stay in contention throughout the summer for the entertainment of a division/pennant chase. If we don't win, oh well. With the makeshift lineup, staying in it until the end would be pretty impressive.

duncan_idaho 05-27-2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12248420)
Hopefully Brett Eibner can be Brett Gardner-lite. That is the only comp I can think of at the moment. The difference is Gardner is a better hitter, and Eibner with more power. But somewhat similar players, I hope.

That comp doesn't fit for me. Eibner is a big, athletic guy with a lot of swing and miss in his game and good raw power.

Randal Grichuk and George Springer are the types of guys who come to mind with that profile from the right side.

Eibner does seem to control the strike zone pretty well - he always has had good walk rates - and has adopted a more aggressive approach in the past few years on pitches in the strike zone.

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12248426)
Or maybe more like Jeremy Hazelbaker, an older guy who gets off to a hot start and fades.


I could see something like that. Honestly, if he gives you a few good weeks, you're ecstatic, because that just helps you buy time until Gordon is healthy.

I think Eibner is a better athlete than Hazelbaker, though, and he WAS a second round pick.

Best case, Eibner proves he can be a .260ish hitter at the major league level, which would make him a good candidate to be KC's starting RF starting next year. If he can carry that sort of average, he'll walk enough to get into a .330/.340 OBP range, he'll SLG enough to hit 15-20 HR, and he'll play excellent RF defense.


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KevB 05-27-2016 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12248301)
I've been thinking about what, exactly, the Royals would look like if they stay in it this year and make the playoffs again.

I'll start with the lineup.

I think Brett Eibner is someone who could have some really significant instant success at the MLB level... He has a lot of raw power and knows how to pick his pitch and put a swing with good loft on it. I wouldn't be surprised to see him start really hot, but I don't think he can sustain it long-term. KC needs Dyson/Orlando to continue to hit and Lorenzo Cain to continue his return to 2015 form. If all those things happen, the y may survive until Gordon is back and healthy.

Kendrys getting back to a middle of the order hitter is also huge. Doesn't have to be Barry Bonds, but something similar to last season.

The good news is despite losing two good/great defensive players in Gordon and Moose, we appear to lose very little with the replacements in the field. Cheslor has been a revelation defensively. Didn't know he had that in him. Hopefully he remains consistent.

C3HIEF3S 05-27-2016 10:13 AM

I'm done with my grieving. Let's **** up these scumbags.

WilliamTheIrish 05-27-2016 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12248461)
I'm done with my grieving. Let's **** up these scumbags.

All right. Now bring along the rest of them and watch the next flag get raised.

Prison Bitch 05-27-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 12248708)
All right. Now bring along the rest of them and watch the next flag get raised.

Twins must be licking their chops now

KChiefs1 05-27-2016 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12248301)
I've been thinking about what, exactly, the Royals would look like if they stay in it this year and make the playoffs again.

I'll start with the lineup.

I think Brett Eibner is someone who could have some really significant instant success at the MLB level... He has a lot of raw power and knows how to pick his pitch and put a swing with good loft on it. I wouldn't be surprised to see him start really hot, but I don't think he can sustain it long-term. KC needs Dyson/Orlando to continue to hit and Lorenzo Cain to continue his return to 2015 form. If all those things happen, the y may survive until Gordon is back and healthy.

Ultimately, I think Eibner's lack of contact will keep him from being an everyday guy, but I could see him being something similar to Randal Grichuk in St Louis, though not quite that good.

If Merrifield can put up something like .275/.325/.375-.400, I think that's a major bonus at 2B (and with the offensive downgrades elsewhere, they need to bump 2B production). If Merrifield does that, I'd like to see them try him in the lead off spot, eventually.

Cuthbert is also key. He needs to hit a little more than he has, but he's a solid fill-in that keeps them from being in disaster mode. His performance with the bat has improved at every level over time/once he adjusts... Would need to do that quickly to be an average MLB stick at 3B.

Ultimately, unless Gordon is able to return in a best-case-scenario type situation, I think they'll need to make a trade to shore up the lineup if they're still in contention for a spot.

Thankfully, there are several minor leaguers who have taken nice steps this year, so the farm isn't as barren as it might have looked at the beginning of the year (dozier, bonifacio, mills, Strahm, all come to mind... But Chase Vallot, Foster Griffin, Jake Junis, and a few other younger guys have started strong and made themselves into worthwhile trade pieces.

The rotation is going to come down to how the 4-5 spots fill. Some combination of Duffy, Minor, Young, Medlen, Gee... That's a lot of bodies for those spots. I'm optimistic they'll do OK at filling them.

A trade for a starter wouldn't hurt - I think something like Chase Vallot + Bonifacio + Alec Mills is something close to what it would take to get someone similar to Scott Kazmir (that's pretty close to what the A's got for him last year), but we will see how that trade market shapes up.

Ventura pulling his head out of his ass and pitching consistently well would also help. Need him to be strong behind Kennedy and Volquez.

To sum: I don't think it's over. If they make it through the next 20 games or so still within a few games of first in the Central and still in the playoff hunt, I think they make the playoffs, because the schedule gets much easier in the second half.




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Any chance if Cuthbert fails that they would bring up Dozier?


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duncan_idaho 05-27-2016 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12248832)
Any chance if Cuthbert fails that they would bring up Dozier?


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Definitely possible if Dozier continues to hit at a high level. He has been just "good" at AA but still impressive for his first go-round there.


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cosmo20002 05-27-2016 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12248331)
Hey guys - sorry if it's been mentioned - but any word as to when they'll make up Thursday's game?

September 19, Monday day game.
Sox here for a weekend series and Monday was an off day.

AJKCFAN 05-27-2016 02:25 PM

Does the Moustakas injury significantly help the Royals chances of keeping him beyond 2017?

If so, how much does it make sense to keep him, as he will be 28 coming off an ACL injury.

I would try to use this time to extend him.

lewdog 05-27-2016 02:38 PM

If we don't want to check it in, trading for Trevor Plouffe in a down year might not require much from the Royals.

Pitt Gorilla 05-27-2016 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12248877)
If we don't want to check it in, trading for Trevor Plouffe in a down year might not require much from the Royals.

I always just assumed that "Plouffe" was some sort of insult.

C3HIEF3S 05-27-2016 03:59 PM

Sox are throwing Sale now on Sunday.


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