you've never watched any of those qbs play...

why are telling us about them?

Arrowheadpride's GIF article up yet?

....

nah, AM feature.

How big of an impact will Aldon Smith or Jason Pierre Paul have????

Really? Do you guys watch the NFL?

You would have drafted that smelly wet fart Bradford but you won't draft Geno?

Get AIDS

He's not even close to that type of prospect and HE WON"T EVEN START ON THIS TEAM.

Obviously you don't. Both of those guys you mentioned have QBs that are winning games because of the plays they make. You want Alex Smith? Fine, we get it, but trying to force your opinion in a thread meant to talk about Geno isn't gonna get you far.

Holy shit that guy gets it.

did JPP or Aldon Smith start???? :banghead:

Ok dipshit.


You complain about value at the first overall pick, but you wanna take a player who won't even start?


Do they start now?

Thats great, lets take a player first overall, FIRST OVERALL, who will play 40% of the defensive stats, and who doesn't show up in big games.


Is Jarvis Jones as good of a prospect as either one of those guys?

Sweet kcbubb doesnt like Geno Smith. Makes me feel better about Geno then.

No, he wants to draft a subpackage pass rusher who vanishes in big games.

Let's play a game.

Let's pretend that the Chiefs were an expansion franchise. Which position does an expansion team normally draft with the first pick? A QB? HOLY SHIT GIVE THE GUY A PRIZE! Now then, when a team is in rebuild mode, what is the first position normally addressed? Wait.....you don't say....QB AGAIN?! But that's impossible! Surely defensive linemen and pass rushers are the way to success!

Alas, I kid you not, it's ALWAYS the QB that begins the rebuild. Are the Chiefs in rebuild mode? Uhhhhh, what's our record?

This discussion is completely reeruned and I feel reeruned for even partaking in it. You know, even if Geno fails, going with a QB on the first pick isn't wrong and it never will be wrong. Try and try and try and eventually that blind franchise finds the QB.

The 49ers had Alex Smith when they picked Aldon Smith??? What do you mean they were winning games. They knew Alex wasn't the answer at QB or they wouldn't have traded up for Kaepernick!! But they didn't take a QB in the 1st round!!! Hello? :cuss: They picked Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd round!!! Pay attention!

Geno is not worth the #1 pick. We can get a QB just as good of a QB prospect later in the 1st or in the 2nd. The 49ers did the same thing. They picked their QB in the 2nd. They picked the best prospect, Aldon Smith, in the first. They obviously didn't believe Gabbert, Locker, or Ponder were that much better than Kaepernick. So, they took Aldon Smith with the first and Kaepernick with the 2nd.

Some dipshits will never get it. Leave the Geno Smith thread dipshit.

Find me AJ Green in this draft, kcbubb.

If you can't do that, then find possibly the league's greatest QB guru/coach on the Chiefs

If you can't do that, then find me any ELITE player period in this draft at the following positions: LT, DE, OLB (Von Miller style).

If you can't do that, then find me a team who will give up what the Redskins gave up for RGIII. Preferably, find me a team who will give up MORE, since this is the #1 overall pick we're talking about.

If you can't do that, then kill everybody in your family.

Go.

I hate to burst your bubble guys. But this is my prediction. The Chiefs let Branden Albert walk. They resign Bowe. And they draft Joeckel. Then they draft a QB with the 2nd pick. Whoever the best QB on the board is.

Guess what, idiot. GENO IS BETTER THAN ALL OF THEM TOO!

If they resign Bowe, why would't they tag Albert?


What team has drafted a LT first overall and it worked out?

You are absolutely entitled to your own opinion, I respect that. But this isn't the thread for you.

Kindly, please leave.

Your prediction is dumb. As previously stated, why the **** would they re-sign Bowe and let Albert walk while not using the franchise tag on either of them?

Gonna tag Colquitt.

I'm pretty sure Scott got tired of packing, so hes taking a break to get on here and **** with us.

How's the scavenger hunt coming along, kcbubb?

Trading draft picks has nothing to do with the actual pick. It has to do with the player that's available. Case in point is RGIII. obviously they will give up more bc it's RGIII. There is no RG3 in this class. Jarvis Jones is the closest thing. And I wouldn't be surprised if someone wanted to trade up for him. Same thing with Dallas trading up for Claiborne. They didn't trade up for the 6th pick. They gave up a lot to move up to get Claiborne. Hopefully someone will want to move up for Jarvis Jones.

And yes he disappeared against Bama at times bc he was double teamed and chipped. They game planned for him. He's an elite player. Only question on him is his medical.

Watch him be one of those "draft gurus" that think they know the QB class so well.....LMAO

Trading up for Jarvis Jones, how ****ing stupid are we getting. Besides this is a Geno Smith thread get this shit out of here.

He disappeared cause they ran right at him the whole game.

The Chiefs can only franchise one player. The threat of the franchise tag is what helps players to sign. Bowe does not want to get tagged again, even though he will get paid with his 2nd tag.

No shit.


You said they would resign Bowe. Therefor, they can tag Albert.

ROFL

You don't need to discredit Jarvis Jones as a prospect to make the case for drafting Geno Smith. If both reach their tremendous potential? You'd rather have Geno.

NSFW

Bowe would rather sign with someone else unless he knew he was going to be tagged.

What?


Bowe will either leave, or be signed longterm. He won't be tagged again.


So again, you are sitting here with the Franchise Tag open.

Adam Caplan‏@caplannfl

Not likely a top-10 pick based on early talks I've had with NFL people. RT @Wardamus: @caplannfl Thoughts on Geno to the Chiefs at 1?

:facepalm:

I know, I tweeted that to him.

NFL people are almost constantly failing.

He can be tagged again. The tag is what forces players to stay with their team. They don't want to be tagged so they sign.

Adam Caplan‏@caplannfl

Not yet there on evaluation, just early word is not a good QB class overall. RT @Wardamus: @caplannfl Whats the knock on him?

The ****?

If i see this one more time....

Wait, there's a question on a player? Oohhh, see I was told by people that the #1 overall pick has to be a SURE thing. It's life or death if you get the pick right!

So basically you can't find a team that would give up the Redskins package because.... teams don't like the available players?

Sounds like a team in that spot should take the best QB available then.

PEOPLE WERE STILL HOPING TO DRAFT RGIII THIS TIME LAST YEAR! Wait till the combine is over. Geno will solidify himself as the 1st overall pick.

Why would Bowe resign with the Chiefs unless he thought he would be tagged? You don't think he wants to play somewhere else?

This is just wrong.


They aren't gonna tag him again, and pay him 12 million dollars next year.

Bowe said to Adam Teicher that he wants to stay in Kansas City. Says he loves it here.

I know money talks, but why the **** would he leave as long as the price was right?

So players sign because they are afraid of being tagged?


Then why didn't he sign this year?

And the possibilty of a franchise QB coming in next year would be attractive.

Nothing says sorry like MONEY.

This guy has to be trolling us.

This is the Chiefs. When has the money ever been right? When is the last time we spent real money on a free agent? It won't happen. Bowe walks or Albert walks. One or the other, because you can't threaten both with the tag. I think they will choose to let Albert walk. And then use the threat of the tag on Bowe to force him to sign a long term deal.

If the Chiefs don't get Albert or Bowe under a new contract, who the **** are they going to spend that money on?

Don't forget, we're gonna free up some cap room when we sell Cassel to the gay sex slavery market in Mozambique

"The threat of the tag"

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Well this year teams HAVE to spend 90% of the cap.

Geno/Wilson+Chip Kelly+Charles+Bowe=JIZZ IN MY PANTS

Why?

It's a scary thing right?

Because the Chiefs are cheap and offered him a crap contract. He called their bluff. He saw what Carr got with Dallas and knows he's a better WR than Carr is a CB.

Are you 12? Don't you have school tomorrow?

:spock:

If you threaten 1 with the tag and force him to sign, you still have tag available.

why didn't the chiefs keep Carr last year?

Because you touch yourself at night?

Why the hell is a Geno Smith thread turning into a ****ing thread from April?

They didnt pay him enough, He always wanted to be a Cowboy.... take your pick.

Good call jd. Lets get it back on topic.

Is that in the new CBA? Teams get a tag, but can also use a tag threat without the actual tag if they have two players?

I should have watched the tape

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That was like the series finale of Friday Night Lights. I'm tearing up.

Because Pioli was afraid that if he paid Carr big money, Flowers would get mad, so he took the CHEAP option of signing Routt and let Carr walk.

Thank God Pioli will be gone.

^this too

That wouldn't count, he didn't make 6 reads and do a cartwheel before he threw it.

OH yea how did we miss that!

No teams cant do that.

When I have more time after Christmas, I'm going to create another thing in the OP in which I logically disprove the notion that Geno Smith should not be taken at #1 overall by the Kansas City Chiefs.

I've got the premises worked out. I just need to organize it and write it up