Because players are always reasonable about their contract demands?
I'd like to think he wouldn't turn $60m overall down, but if he has an inflated sense of what he's worth...

If you make it cut and dry sure, but we know it isn't.
It always depended upon a reasonable contract negotiation between the FO and Bowe. And again, what pressure is Bowe under to accept the FO's terms. He holds all the cards here. He's locked in for $9.5m this year. If he plays well, he'll hit the open market in 2013 with even bigger demands. If he somehow falters and Baldwin doesn't impress, the option to re-sign him is still on the table. He's playing with "house money".

Under favorable conditions, you don't.

Perhaps on its face, but that's a false dichotomy in my view.
Overspend or the money returns to the evil miser's wallet.
I don't buy that. There's something in the middle.

I think the offer I proposed is slightly above "market". I'm not opposed to that. Just making the point that another team's willingness to make a bad decision shouldn't inform what this FO does.

Dude, he cried after signing with Dallas.
We can agree to disagree.

And exactly how many of those do we have?
Generic second-hand press clippings that suggest he'll sign the tender and play? That doesn't indicate any future plans to play in Kansas City.

His overall body of work suggests he's one of the four best WR's in the NFL?

Got it.
Pay $40,000 for a car that you really oughta pay $35,000 for...because you have it. Brilliant.

In an effort to not spend all day refuting each other's position, I say we call a truce and agree to disagree on this topic.

:toast:

Fair enough.

In closing, I'd love to see Dwayne Bowe return to this team and hope the FO can get that done at some point.

They got cheap. Plain and simple. They could have had a team with Bowe and Carr re-signed long-term and still added Winston. Passed on Routt and been a better team in the long-run.

Penny-pinching is no way to run a professional sports franchise. Costs of the team are covered and Hunt still pockets $40 MILLION each year, AFTER all the team expenses have been paid. Problem is he wants that $40 million profit, PLUS be able to not spend up to the cap.

We have a greedy, penny-pinchin' miser running the team, who would rather cut corners, than doing what it takes to improve long-term. There's ample cap room. Clark just didn't want to have to give the signing bonus money. He's a tight-ass and has no business running an NFL franchise.

Half-assed ownership, who's not commited fully to the product, that he reaps the rewards from. What a friggin' nightmare for fans.

um, it's not our money, so why do you care? the objective is winning, not hoarding money

and 'oughta' has nothing to do with it anyways, there is no objective # in contract negotiations for an athlete...

but you really do worry about Clark's money...like a lot

It's not our team either. Now what?

And if you keep spouting the same dumb shit for the rest of the day, it'll eventually cover up your inability to construct a rational rebuttal.

I'd ask you why you think me proposing a contract that would make him, by far, the highest paid player on this team is protecting Clark's money...but your head might explode.

I'm not up in arms about this situation. Because of a couple of huge WR contracts the WR market is really up there right now. Several players are trying to take advantage of that and becasuse of that several teams have WRs who are playing under the franhchise tag. I don't blame the WRs for trying to maximize their contracts but I also don't blame the teams for not wanting to pay such huge money. It's just the nature of the beast and that's why the NFL has adopted the rules it has.

It also takes two sides to make a deal and it takes two sides not to make a deal.

We've got Bowe for this season and we have enough money to sign Albert to a long term deal during the season. We should get that done and then we can deal with Bowe next year. We'll probably have to tag him again and then we'll probably give him the opportunity to seek a trade. Other teams might not want to give up enough compensation to gain his rights though so he'll be stuck a Chief. When that's realized Bowe may lower his demands enough to get a long term deal and a big wad of guaranteed money.

Looks like typical NFL business to me.

If finding a #1 WR were as easy as finding a similar car within a general price point, this analogy might have some chance of working.

Yeah that analogy sucks.

It's more like...bidding on a rare work of art at an auction.

And you just happen to have exclusive rights to purchase this fine art...before it goes up for public bidding...but you won't spend a few thousand more because god dammit, your father told you never to buy art that way.

Not like there were a half-dozen up for grabs just this past off-season.
:rolleyes:

The MSRP might be 35, but the dealer is selling it for 40. And in this bizarre cars=football players world, there are no more cars available for purchase. And none of the cars we have in our garage back home are likely going to be good enough to win the race.

So yeah, you buy the car if you want to win the race.

Well then I suppose we have two bad analogies.

Better

Or you take the year you have, with the car you have, and see what can be done later.
That car you bought a year ago might afford you the luxury of letting the #82 car go.