Why would Cincinnati want Holland. They dont appear to want to compete this year or next year.

Fitting considering all the close calls we had tonight.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">10 minutes before the start. “It’s going to happen. They’re going to trade me.” <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/reds?src=hash">#reds</a></p>&mdash; John Fay (@johnfayman) <a href="https://twitter.com/johnfayman/status/625147810782928896">July 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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They can def compete next year. But why Holland? He will cost them 10m next year. Seems pointless

Has to be Zimmer

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some good stuff postgame from Cueto. Lorenzen was getting ready to pitch. Told Cueto he was getting traded. But deal didn&#39;t happen. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/reds?src=hash">#reds</a></p>&mdash; Mark Sheldon (@m_sheldon) <a href="https://twitter.com/m_sheldon/status/625147599973003264">July 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cueto said he was upset to learn about it that way. But was able to put it out of his head and pitch well. More to come in story. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/reds?src=hash">#reds</a></p>&mdash; Mark Sheldon (@m_sheldon) <a href="https://twitter.com/m_sheldon/status/625147845599887360">July 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Clearly he doesn't just have to be on the DL. Zimmer may be the guy that caused the issue. We may have sent over his medicals and their doctors had enough concern about something that they weren't comfortable pulling the trigger.

Unless the medical question is the centerpiece

Cueto should announce that he refuses to pitch another game for the Reds because of this. Drive his price down...

I would think if we were this close, the two sides will figure something out (crossing fingers)

Cueto just got more expensive.

Damn, I can't believe it was so close to being done that they were warming up another guy to start the game. Find another way.

If it was Zimmer I don't know what they're going to do. I bet Dayton is really torn if he was banking on Zimmer. He's going to have to upgrade to Manaea or Duffy, or Ventura, although he'd be crazy to send Ventura. Anyway... all for a two month rental. Brutal call to make.

Well we know it probably wasn't Duffy now.

Or maybe we can do Almonte plus a lower level guy to = Zimmer

Per Dave Gershman

Heard from a source with #Royals that team is still engaged in talks for #Reds Johnny Cueto, and could strike deal as early as tomorrow. 1/2


Also heard that player that stalled deal was in fact Bubba Starling, who has been tearing it up all year. Binford is a name that could go.

Edinson Volquez told me earlier that he's kept in close touch with Johnny Cueto lately and hopes that Kansas City acquires him.

Very interesting. Starling wasn't even a thought in my mind. Like that better than sending one of the pitchers.